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knightM #21 Posted 09 October 2015 - 05:43 PM

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How is the first landing task picked? By some random generator? Does it take timezones into account? How many landing tasks do you get on the start?

Wyrda1 #22 Posted 09 October 2015 - 05:57 PM

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I'll try to clarify the question about Tanks given to more than 100 Members as I understood it.

 

Example: A clan has 100 players at the start of the campaign. In the first 5 Days all 100 Members play at least 5 CW Battles. Now Player A, B, C, D and E leave the clan but fought 5 Battles in the Event too.

Clan has 95 players now and 5 new players join. Before the campaign ends these 5 players (Player F, G, H, I and J) play 5 battles of the Safari Event too.

 

Campaign ends now and Clan ends up being 1th. The 95 players get the FCM 50t now.

The question is: Do players A, B, C, D and E get the tank too?



Wyrda1 #23 Posted 09 October 2015 - 05:58 PM

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View PostknightM, on 09 October 2015 - 05:43 PM, said:

How is the first landing task picked? By some random generator? Does it take timezones into account? How many landing tasks do you get on the start?

 

If you read the rules you would know it :P (*smartass*)

 

If I understood it correct you can choose a timezone between 18-20 and you get 1 task to land on a randomly generated province in the timezone you chose.



Nekrodamus #24 Posted 09 October 2015 - 06:07 PM

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View PostWyrda1, on 09 October 2015 - 05:57 PM, said:

I'll try to clarify the question about Tanks given to more than 100 Members as I understood it.

 

Example: A clan has 100 players at the start of the campaign. In the first 5 Days all 100 Members play at least 5 CW Battles. Now Player A, B, C, D and E leave the clan but fought 5 Battles in the Event too.

Clan has 95 players now and 5 new players join. Before the campaign ends these 5 players (Player F, G, H, I and J) play 5 battles of the Safari Event too.

 

Campaign ends now and Clan ends up being 1th. The 95 players get the FCM 50t now.

The question is: Do players A, B, C, D and E get the tank too?

 

At day X the clan is given 100 licences and people not in the clan at this very moment will obviously get nothing.



Wrigglyfingers #25 Posted 09 October 2015 - 06:09 PM

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View PostWyrda1, on 09 October 2015 - 04:57 PM, said:

I'll try to clarify the question about Tanks given to more than 100 Members as I understood it.

 

Example: A clan has 100 players at the start of the campaign. In the first 5 Days all 100 Members play at least 5 CW Battles. Now Player A, B, C, D and E leave the clan but fought 5 Battles in the Event too.

Clan has 95 players now and 5 new players join. Before the campaign ends these 5 players (Player F, G, H, I and J) play 5 battles of the Safari Event too.

 

Campaign ends now and Clan ends up being 1th. The 95 players get the FCM 50t now.

The question is: Do players A, B, C, D and E get the tank too?

 

perfectly put... but the question is also whether players from both groups of five (players A, B, C, D, E,  F, G, H, I and J) get the tank.

(+1 for explaining it better for me though)



Wyrda1 #26 Posted 09 October 2015 - 06:15 PM

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yeah I would agree to Nekrodamus and the players who are in the clan at the End and fullfill the requirement (5 Battles+) get the tank.

 

But Deception can clarify this with little effort :P btw thanks to deception for the fast answers, they are rare thes days on the wot forums :D +1



antal_z #27 Posted 09 October 2015 - 08:08 PM

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I'm pretty sure it works like previous events: only people in the clan the moment the event concludes get tanks.

 

Also: I'm really happy with the new fame formula. It now reflects that recking the enemy harder gives you more fame, rather than less, which is awesome. No more cap-for-fame or ram-the-arty crap. Just kill your enemy while taking minimal losses.

 

Perhaps the tank awarding now is a bit too biased to top clans. I'm probably not getting an FCM, ow well.

 

Also, looking for good klanu



Rois #28 Posted 09 October 2015 - 09:13 PM

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       Clan Wars: Battle for province Câmpulung
[11RHS] 11 Tankbataljon Regiment Huzaren van Sytzama vs. [FOCA] Fabricat original cu aluminiu
Înfrângere

 

 

     Over  the last  campaigns  some  '' strange  things  happaned  ...

     In that  above   clan wars    something  funny happaned to me / my tank  :  6  tracks  over    12  - 13  seconds  ... distance   4   +  squares  away  at T 6  ... it could be skill ( s ) ....    some  extraordinarry    + random for enemy team ...   or maybe something else ? As  cheats ? Since i  play this game    i  used  only 3 times   XWM ..  but with minimal    '' options  '' ... and after  i was   under HEAVY   suspiciuos  about    '' enemy '' teams  '' using cheats ..  huge  time  cheats  ...

    A  new  champaign is about to begin ...  should i  assume  , again ,  that some  teams  are  using  ''  cheats    to win '' ?



vaskeqm #29 Posted 09 October 2015 - 10:36 PM

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So, a few days ago, we were answering the question "what would improve monitoring on live streams and views on youtube.... Event such as this, will never do. Again the same thing: providing premium tanks and golds to strong players / clans (read Players who Buying golds), and cheaters. The average and inferior players will get the same as before ... nothing

results : u can guess

If u wont to improve number of players and views, learn something from DotA, LoL, SW and other MMO games

And hey ... 'No Man's Sky' comming out soon ... GL with politick like this

 


Edited by vaskeqm, 09 October 2015 - 10:46 PM.


SanyaJuutilainen #30 Posted 09 October 2015 - 10:40 PM

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View Postvaskeqm, on 09 October 2015 - 10:36 PM, said:

So, a few days ago, we were answering the question "what would improve monitoring on live streams and views on youtube.... Event such as this, will never do. Again the same thing: providing premium tanks and golds to strong players / clans (read Players who Buying golds), and the average and inferior players will get the same as before ... nothing

results : u can guess

If u wont to improve number of players and views, learn something from DotA, LoL, SW and other MMO games

And hey ... 'No Man's Sky' comming out soon ... GL with politick like this

 

 

One answer:
Get. Better.

You have a good clan, that with activity could reach T23E3s as a reward. If you try, you can get there, why should you get rewarded for not trying?

vaskeqm #31 Posted 09 October 2015 - 11:00 PM

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View PostSanyaJuutilainen, on 09 October 2015 - 09:40 PM, said:

 

One answer:
Get. Better.

You have a good clan, that with activity could reach T23E3s as a reward. If you try, you can get there, why should you get rewarded for not trying?

 

cozz i have job and family .. u know ... or u dont? 

mightyjosHi #32 Posted 09 October 2015 - 11:43 PM

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View Postvaskeqm, on 09 October 2015 - 10:00 PM, said:

 

cozz i have job and family .. u know ... or u dont? 

 

Thats why you played over 1k battles last month?

Most TopClan Players dont play that much and still achieve the campaign tanks :)



Eligible #33 Posted 10 October 2015 - 12:33 AM

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will we have lockdown time for destroyed tanks in this campaign and if we will, for how many hours they will be locked?

Yndy_ #34 Posted 10 October 2015 - 01:12 AM

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Re-read t he newsitem.

 

I still don't get the 2 fronts thing.



SanyaJuutilainen #35 Posted 10 October 2015 - 12:28 PM

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View Postvaskeqm, on 09 October 2015 - 11:00 PM, said:

 

cozz i have job and family .. u know ... or u dont? 

 

I do. My job doesn't overlap with campaign starting 8PM (I work 9 - 5) in the evening and my family gets all the attention before and after the battles. After all, it's only ten days.

Finnyan #36 Posted 10 October 2015 - 12:35 PM

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View PostDecept1on, on 09 October 2015 - 04:12 PM, said: 

View PostmightyjosHi, on 09 October 2015 - 04:06 PM, said:

Will there be a new Elo-Rating for the event front or will it just count the current rating from the t8 area?

 

Yes, each front has it's own rating, so Safari will get a new one and the Season as well.

 

Apologies on that, after re-checking, on Safari event the rating will be the same as we have on t8 front now.



FooWayTheTacoMaster #37 Posted 10 October 2015 - 01:01 PM

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View PostDecept1on, on 10 October 2015 - 11:35 AM, said:

 

Apologies on that, after re-checking, on Safari event the rating will be the same as we have on t8 front now.

 

I have to ask why there is a factor to calculate fame points that can be improved before the event starts. It makes no sense and it's unfair. It's already quite unbalanced that the event is being played on a game mode that some clans have been improving for months while others don't. Because 10vs10 (tier VIII) battles is also another advantage and now this.

 

Worst point is that we know this within 5 days for the beginning.

 

Given the amount of influence you have to spend in tier 8 for the same or better income and that tier 8 is being encouraged so much, why do we want tier X? So far this event is giving too much initial advantage to the clans that have been in that front since the first day.



mightyjosHi #38 Posted 10 October 2015 - 02:17 PM

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View Postfooway, on 10 October 2015 - 12:01 PM, said:

 

I have to ask why there is a factor to calculate fame points that can be improved before the event starts. It makes no sense and it's unfair. It's already quite unbalanced that the event is being played on a game mode that some clans have been improving for months while others don't. Because 10vs10 (tier VIII) battles is also another advantage and now this.

 

Worst point is that we know this within 5 days for the beginning.

 

Given the amount of influence you have to spend in tier 8 for the same or better income and that tier 8 is being encouraged so much, why do we want tier X? So far this event is giving too much initial advantage to the clans that have been in that front since the first day.

Read the formula for Famepoints Calculation again. The only ELO counted is ENEMY-ELO which means: Clans with a High ELO Rating are more valuable targets. So Clans that come from T10 (and are also very good at T8 because being experienced TopClans) can just "farm" Clans that have a good rating from playing on the t8 map. 

 

EDIT: Feedback for WG: this sucks :)


Edited by mightyjosHi, 10 October 2015 - 02:17 PM.


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View PostmightyjosHi, on 10 October 2015 - 01:17 PM, said:

Read the formula for Famepoints Calculation again. The only ELO counted is ENEMY-ELO which means: Clans with a High ELO Rating are more valuable targets. So Clans that come from T10 (and are also very good at T8 because being experienced TopClans) can just "farm" Clans that have a good rating from playing on the t8 map. 

 

EDIT: Feedback for WG: this sucks :)

 

You are right about that it was my mistake to "read" the rules not reading. But still it makes no sense at all. If you are taking into account any ELO should be based only on event battles...

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View Postbinmaa10, on 09 October 2015 - 05:16 PM, said:

If i understood right there will be the season and the event at the same time and you can only play one of these 2 at one time. So can I ask you when we can expect an announcement of this "season" as I am assuming that the prizes will be different to the one of the campaign. If I understood you correctly the season will at least start with T6. So can I ask you when we can expect an announcement for the season, as it would be helpful in order to choose which of the 2 the clan will play and how to prepare for it.

 

Yes, this announcement will be about prizes and more info on how it will be done.

 

View Postfooway, on 09 October 2015 - 05:26 PM, said:

Is this ELO based only on event battles?

Fame Points = (fame_points_base x Battle_type_c x Event_value_c x Elo_c x Team_XP)  ÷ (Battle_XP x Team_Size)

 

Yes of course, you only get FPs on the Safari front, so for Safari battles.

 

View PostWrigglyfingers, on 09 October 2015 - 05:30 PM, said:

its not often a WG employee actively replies... fair play to you.


FULL AFK-they might kick you from the clan for that...unless they have arranged it, for whichever method of stat-manipulation, you seem to miss the motive. prize tanks....

damned good question

deception. some clans should, looking at previous events and their record of stats, be confident that they will win this event; in the top ten clans, earning the criteria  "each player, in the clan, with 5+ battles" a prize tank. now... what if that clan is active and 100 regular member have all had 5+battles... surely, with a guaranteed win anyway, they can afford to temporarily dismiss five members for new players, who can make a deal with the clan to let them in, temporarily to play five battles and also gain a tank... the automated system would send 105 tanks to that clan?  

 

 

here, your apparent lack of insight is mocked, deception. 

 

but seriously, it is possible, by this new event rule, that new clans etc can participate, within this, it is possible to run a clan by recruit-swapping... (substitution via dismissal and invitation) that a clan may earn 105+ 'prize tank licences'????

 

Well as replied a bit later (by other players), you have to be in the clan to get the tank, so it can't be more than 100 tanks. Besides remember that a clan receives 100 licenses and not more.

 

View PostknightM, on 09 October 2015 - 05:43 PM, said:

How is the first landing task picked? By some random generator? Does it take timezones into account? How many landing tasks do you get on the start?

 

Yes, random by the prime time you chose at the beginning (see point 2. in the rules), you get 1 task.

 

View PostNekrodamus, on 09 October 2015 - 06:07 PM, said:

At day X the clan is given 100 licences and people not in the clan at this very moment will obviously get nothing.

 

Correct, unless they are in the best players (solo) by FP and get a wildcard.

 

View Postfooway, on 10 October 2015 - 01:01 PM, said:

I have to ask why there is a factor to calculate fame points that can be improved before the event starts. It makes no sense and it's unfair. It's already quite unbalanced that the event is being played on a game mode that some clans have been improving for months while others don't. Because 10vs10 (tier VIII) battles is also another advantage and now this.

 

Worst point is that we know this within 5 days for the beginning.

 

Given the amount of influence you have to spend in tier 8 for the same or better income and that tier 8 is being encouraged so much, why do we want tier X? So far this event is giving too much initial advantage to the clans that have been in that front since the first day.

 

I was actually a bit surprised myself by this as well, be sure that I'll forward that feedback to the devs.

Also, let's say you keep attacking the clan that has the best ELO, then you get a nice multiplier.






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