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T-40 tier 4 better alpha than tier 10 meds


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ihateclowns #1 Posted 20 October 2015 - 10:06 PM

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Was driving the new Japanese tier 4 tank and boom I'm dead, at first thought it was arty but It was a t40 tier 4 American td. So I go check out the stats on it only to see its derp gun has better alpha damage than any of the tier 10 Russian meds and very close to an is4 or is7's. Crazy lol. Funny thing Is I have the t10e3 whitch is the line the t40 is on but I don't remember having that kind of firepower at tier 4.  OP me thinks.

dragonmage40 #2 Posted 20 October 2015 - 10:19 PM

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Guessing then that the T40 had the 105 derp mounted, which when firing HE has a massive 410 HP potential, but only 53mm of pen, so against lightly armoured targets (most T4's) he will do max damage.

 

And casting my mind back he's always had the 105mm but its not the most accurate gun around



Zaros_2014 #3 Posted 20 October 2015 - 11:03 PM

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View Postihateclowns, on 20 October 2015 - 10:06 PM, said:

Was driving the new Japanese tier 4 tank and boom I'm dead, at first thought it was arty but It was a t40 tier 4 American td. So I go check out the stats on it only to see its derp gun has better alpha damage than any of the tier 10 Russian meds and very close to an is4 or is7's. Crazy lol. Funny thing Is I have the t10e3 whitch is the line the t40 is on but I don't remember having that kind of firepower at tier 4.  OP me thinks.

 

Better alpha damage yes, but penetration, accuracy, aiming, etc. is much much worse.

The T40s 105mm howitzer is basically a fire once, pray you penetrate or you'll do 100 damage and have to reload for the next 10 or so seconds. It's also not OP, it's got a gun pretty similar to the Hetzers, Alectos and SAu 40s derp guns. The long aiming time, bad accuracy and the low penetration all work together to make it a gun which whilst OP in a good players hands can be a ticket back to the garage for the beginers that don't understand how to back into cover as they reload.

On the other hand the higher tier mediums like the T62A and the FV4202 which have lower alpha have much better aim time and accuracy, meaning that they can generally get away with firing on the move, snap shots and firing at weakspots. Not to mention they'll penetrate 99.99999% of the time if you have any idea what you're doing and where you're aiming. Overall they just outclass the T40s derp gun in pretty much every single way. 



Eila_Juutilainen #4 Posted 21 October 2015 - 07:36 AM

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OP: You're comparing HE shells to AP shells.

lord_chipmonk #5 Posted 21 October 2015 - 10:16 AM

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There are a lot of balance problems at lower tiers, which is unfortunate. You've highlighted one of them. 

MeetriX #6 Posted 21 October 2015 - 10:37 PM

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T82 has the same gun in tier3. Derp a derp, derp.

leggasiini #7 Posted 22 October 2015 - 02:54 PM

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View PostMeetriX, on 21 October 2015 - 11:37 PM, said:

T82 has the same gun in tier3. Derp a derp, derp.

 

was just coming to say this...

 

derpity derp

410 alpha VS. about 230 average HP on tier 3. Thats like having nearly 4k dmg HE on tier 10...

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MeetriX #8 Posted 23 October 2015 - 09:14 PM

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View Postleggasiini, on 22 October 2015 - 02:54 PM, said:

 

was just coming to say this...

 

derpity derp

410 alpha VS. about 230 average HP on tier 3. Thats like having nearly 4k dmg HE on tier 10...

Spoiler

 

 

If that gun is as usefull as 105mm is in tier3 battles, then maybe.

 



BlueSnail #9 Posted 17 August 2016 - 01:42 AM

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I've used both the 76mm and the 105mm guns.  Both are good, though now I prefer the 76mm gun, using camo, binocs, and gun rammer.

Makes a very effective sniper.  :bush:






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