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Pellado #1 Posted 02 December 2015 - 09:51 PM

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I don't get why everyone says that the T-54 is a beast. I have been playing it a while now and it's a horrible experience for me.

Sure, the mobility is great, but thats it. Obvioulsy the penetration is crap, I mean CRAP, and it forces you to switch to HEAT almost all the time, which makes me lose TONS of money since I can't get many good games in it.

The thing that I really hate about it is the thing everyone else seems to love, the armor. I can't bounce anything. The other day a Tiger I penned med 3 times in a row and I'm pretty sure he was auto aiming. And stuff like that happens all the time, tier 7 and tier 8 tanks just shoot at me and everyting goes in. AMX 13 90s pen me with 75% of their shots, frontally, and they have a pen of 170. It's getting me so frustrated. And even worse, I get set on fire every other game and I'm also getting ammo racked all the time.

I truly hate this tank.

I have played 255 battles in it and I have really good crew with BIA on everyone, sixth sense, safe storage etc. and I have a mark of excellence so I have done some good games in it.

But I just CAN'T get the armor to work.

Anyone else experiencing this or is it just me?



Eaglax #2 Posted 02 December 2015 - 09:58 PM

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replay? best one would with e.g. amx1390, or so..

Edited by DocPurple, 02 December 2015 - 09:59 PM.


UranusReeks #3 Posted 02 December 2015 - 10:49 PM

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If you're angling with the right side of the tank, that explains the ammo racks... point the left side towards the enemy, poke around rocks/boulders with your left side etc.

Infryndiira #4 Posted 02 December 2015 - 11:57 PM

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The T-54's gun rewards mobility and flanking, as well as accuracy. Some tier 10 tanks will still require HEAT mind you, namely those such as the Maus. The tank is a cockroach when you use it properly, with a trained crew especially.

Signal11th #5 Posted 03 December 2015 - 12:27 PM

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It used to be a beast then got nerfed well the turret did a good while ago. It's still an ok tank but nowhere as good as it used to be. E50 is much better use that instead.

Edited by signal11th, 03 December 2015 - 12:28 PM.


Eaglax #6 Posted 06 December 2015 - 04:22 PM

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as usual...asked for a replay -> never seen again..........

Signal11th #7 Posted 07 December 2015 - 11:47 AM

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View PostDocPurple, on 06 December 2015 - 03:22 PM, said:

as usual...asked for a replay -> never seen again..........

 

Don't need one mate I have over 2k battles in the T54 and I know the turret armor got nerfed a few patches back. T54 does get penned in the turret now, same as the t62a with the gaping gun mantle weakspot they never fixed.

tajj7 #8 Posted 07 December 2015 - 04:15 PM

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^ There is no armour hole in the T-62A.

 

T-54 turret is still pretty damn good for a tier 9 medium with that mobility, overall the E50 and T-54 bounce about the same amount of shots according to VBaddict, though I'd suspect the average T-54 user is worse considering it's a popular tank.

 

Tier for tier T-54 is one of the best meds in the game. 

 

 



HugSeal #9 Posted 08 December 2015 - 10:06 AM

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View Posttajj7, on 07 December 2015 - 04:15 PM, said:

^ There is no armour hole in the T-62A.

 

T-54 turret is still pretty damn good for a tier 9 medium with that mobility, overall the E50 and T-54 bounce about the same amount of shots according to VBaddict, though I'd suspect the average T-54 user is worse considering it's a popular tank.

 

Tier for tier T-54 is one of the best meds in the game. 

 

 

 

Well, not exactly a horrible weakspot but a weakspot nonetheless.

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Lomion_EU #10 Posted 08 December 2015 - 01:14 PM

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View PostPellado, on 02 December 2015 - 08:51 PM, said:

I don't get why everyone says that the T-54 is a beast. I have been playing it a while now and it's a horrible experience for me.

Sure, the mobility is great, but thats it. Obvioulsy the penetration is crap, I mean CRAP, and it forces you to switch to HEAT almost all the time, which makes me lose TONS of money since I can't get many good games in it.

The thing that I really hate about it is the thing everyone else seems to love, the armor. I can't bounce anything. The other day a Tiger I penned med 3 times in a row and I'm pretty sure he was auto aiming. And stuff like that happens all the time, tier 7 and tier 8 tanks just shoot at me and everyting goes in. AMX 13 90s pen me with 75% of their shots, frontally, and they have a pen of 170. It's getting me so frustrated. And even worse, I get set on fire every other game and I'm also getting ammo racked all the time.

I truly hate this tank.

I have played 255 battles in it and I have really good crew with BIA on everyone, sixth sense, safe storage etc. and I have a mark of excellence so I have done some good games in it.

But I just CAN'T get the armor to work.

Anyone else experiencing this or is it just me?

 

It's a medium, don't rely on armour, rely on it's awesome mobility, any bounces are a bonus.

Fibonachi #11 Posted 08 December 2015 - 02:16 PM

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View PostPellado, on 02 December 2015 - 09:51 PM, said:

But I just CAN'T get the armor to work.

Anyone else experiencing this or is it just me?

 

It does not have reliable armor, no matter how exalted it is in the forum for its armor. It might bounce a tierX TD, it might be penetrated by a tierVIII medium. And that's the tough parts of the turret. The roof is terrible, plus two cupolas,230mm turret cheeks, the hull is 210mm at best and showing your sides is a no-no.

Just play it like an unarmored tank and enjoy the random bounces.

 

 



IRSanchez #12 Posted 09 December 2015 - 11:05 PM

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T-54 lost its armour when it went HD. While frontal hull is still nice for stomping lower tier tanks, the real deal was the strong turret. And it got nerfed badly.

 

Don't get me wrong, the tank is still nice to play, but it's nowhere as good, as the word on the street is. It still packs the ridiculous HEAT shell though, when you want to get away with facing off tanks that you shouldn't.

 

 



MiH102 #13 Posted 16 December 2015 - 06:30 AM

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Thats why I have sold T54 and bought obj430 II and this tank is a beast! Accuracy on the love, armor rof , only minus is a gun depression.

SME_Noob #14 Posted 25 December 2015 - 11:11 AM

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I bought 430 II back too, t54s armor is not even close to it, i cant bounce sh** in t54 aswell most of the time (everyone pens cupolas and roof if you are hulldown, sides are paper too, notice those previous pens from SPIC in video, all frontally)

Edited by SME_Noob, 25 December 2015 - 11:12 AM.


Ast3r #15 Posted 30 December 2015 - 03:34 AM

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The T-54 turret armor received quite a significant nerf. It used to bounce a lot from the turret, these days however I have tanks like T34s,E75s and IS3s managing to go through the front of the turret. Tier9 & 10 TDs will go through it with AP 80% of the time.

Eminenz010 #16 Posted 11 January 2016 - 06:38 PM

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I can second this!

Did wonder why in the last few months my T54 began to suck.


I used to cover up my hull and expose only the turret, but recently. most tanks I encounter, just shoot right through my turret!!!

This is definately new.

 I know what the armour is capable of, and in the last time, the turret armour seemed to have received a hidden and VERY painful nerf.

 

As it is now, the T 54 is only barely competitive and nowhere near it's former strength.

After they stabbed me right through the heart when they nerfed the T50's speed, (and I will never forgive you asshats for that!), they went and did it again.

 

So thx a bunch for killing off another perfectly fine tank.

 

P.s,: to put the tinfoil hat on:  My guess is, since they tend to nerf or shove away older tanks by implementing new, superior ones, they try to get u to grind the new ones.

Which of course more often includes buying some gold/using up ur freeXP to get along...







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