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Doomspell42 #1 Posted 23 December 2015 - 07:59 PM

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Is it me or does the number of premium tanks per game not only seemed to have shot up, but ever single one of them seems to be markable more powerful than the standard tanks? Repeatedly my IS-3 has been overpowered by WZ-111 and IS-3A's. 

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If you get overpowered in your IS3 by a WZ111, then you might need to change the way you play your IS3.

lordbeefy #3 Posted 23 December 2015 - 08:07 PM

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if you get overpowered by an is3a in your is3 then you need to change the way you play...theres no reason to get beaten by them other than they are a better driver than you, the is3a is weaker than the is3.  Same with the wz111, simply weaker, sorry dude.

Solstad1069 #4 Posted 23 December 2015 - 08:26 PM

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And to me it looks like your rushing the tiers, the game gets harder the higher up in tiers you get.

Zaros_2014 #5 Posted 23 December 2015 - 08:34 PM

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Premiums are not overpowered when you are fighting them... What you need to do is learn how to fight them. Fighting a WZ-111 or IS-3a in an IS-3 is a dream situation if you know what you're doing in the IS-3. Up-gunned, they most certainly are not. Imagine your IS-3 with the stock 122mm from the IS and that is for all intensive purpose the same gun as the WZ-111, you have a better gun that the WZ-111 by far. 

 

Do yourself a favor, if you seem to die from a tank over and over, don't just keep throwing your tank away. Stop, research and then try again until you can nail it every time. Fighting, losing and then crying that it's overpowered will do you no favors. 


Edited by Zaros_2014, 23 December 2015 - 08:35 PM.


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Jigabachi #7 Posted 23 December 2015 - 08:46 PM

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View PostDoomspell42, on 23 December 2015 - 07:59 PM, said:

Repeatedly my IS-3 has been overpowered by WZ-111 and IS-3A's. 

That's because you just rushed the tiers and skipped the entire learning process in the lower tiers, ending up in the higher tiers with neither the required skill, nor the experience.

 

Go back to tier five to learn the very basics of the game first. Read the wiki, watch some youtube tutorials and play some more matches at those tiers.



Balc0ra #8 Posted 23 December 2015 - 09:10 PM

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A WZ-111 overpowering an IS-3? No can't say I've seen that.

TankkiPoju #9 Posted 23 December 2015 - 09:14 PM

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I would say Rudy, Cromwell B and IS-2 is just as good as their regular counterparts. Not better, but for all purposes just as good.

 

If you are not that great with IS-3, I guess you can lose to a IS-3A in a 1vs1 since it has more DPM... but that doesn't mean IS-3A is better than IS-3.



Fluffy_The_Destroyer #10 Posted 23 December 2015 - 09:43 PM

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If anything they seem to get worse... since no preff MM anymore the newer tanks besides berlin trio have been pretty poor. KJP? scorpion? STA-2? bad bad bad.

 

How can you lose to a WZ-111 in IS-3 its simply impossible.



ammarmar #11 Posted 23 December 2015 - 09:51 PM

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View PostFluffy_The_Destroyer, on 23 December 2015 - 09:43 PM, said:

If anything they seem to get worse... since no preff MM anymore the newer tanks besides berlin trio have been pretty poor. KJP? scorpion? STA-2? bad bad bad.

 

How can you lose to a WZ-111 in IS-3 its simply impossible.

 

Let me solve that mystery for you (and for others, it seems):

 

1) WZ-111 loads 250mm HEAT shells

2) WZ-111 kills IS-3 with ease, with its much better DPM



brynje #12 Posted 23 December 2015 - 09:55 PM

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WZ-111 is a complete piece of crap. 

Private_Miros #13 Posted 23 December 2015 - 10:02 PM

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The only tier VIII prems that can hold their own are the IS-6, Type 59 and FCM 50t, in that order, from strong to stronkerest.

 

All the rest is meh or worse.

 

SuperPersh with liberal gold spam might be an exception.



miliardo #14 Posted 23 December 2015 - 10:17 PM

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View Postammarmar, on 23 December 2015 - 09:51 PM, said:

 

Let me solve that mystery for you (and for others, it seems):

 

1) WZ-111 loads 250mm HEAT shells

2) WZ-111 kills IS-3 with ease, with its much better DPM

 

You can show him your spaced armor..much greater chance to fizzle 

On the matter of IS-3A I see it's competitive to ordinary IS-3 in regards to gun penetration values...



Balc0ra #15 Posted 23 December 2015 - 11:31 PM

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View Postammarmar, on 23 December 2015 - 09:51 PM, said:

 

Let me solve that mystery for you (and for others, it seems):

 

1) WZ-111 loads 250mm HEAT shells

2) WZ-111 kills IS-3 with ease, with its much better DPM

 

Even so, IS-3 has magical side armor, so in an urban setting. WZ heat is mostly useless.

Folau #16 Posted 23 December 2015 - 11:33 PM

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Yeah some premiums are pretty decent (Rudy, Bromwell among others) but the WZ-111? Really?

Asghaad #17 Posted 23 December 2015 - 11:44 PM

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View Postmiliardo, on 23 December 2015 - 10:17 PM, said:

 

You can show him your spaced armor..much greater chance to fizzle 

On the matter of IS-3A I see it's competitive to ordinary IS-3 in regards to gun penetration values...

 

if you try to show spaced, all you are doing is deangling your front pike to be even easier to penetrate ...

 

 

as for IS3A,  225 AP pen is MUCH better than 221 APCR...

 

for example when IS3 shoots at IS6, it has to get through 100mm armor at 60 degrees but gets 5 degrees of normalization, which means it has to beat only 174.34 mm of effective armor

IS3A in the same situation gets only 2 degrees of normalization and has to get through 188.7 mm of effective armor

 

simply put IS3 has around 5-8% better penetration against highly sloped armor than IS3A does ...

 

doesnt seem like much but its a difference between penning T54 and bouncing off



Bulldog_Drummond #18 Posted 23 December 2015 - 11:49 PM

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View PostDoomspell42, on 23 December 2015 - 06:59 PM, said:

Is it me or does the number of premium tanks per game not only seemed to have shot up, but ever single one of them seems to be markable more powerful than the standard tanks? Repeatedly my IS-3 has been overpowered by WZ-111 and IS-3A's. 

 

WG can't win on this.  They have 3 options:

 

  • OP premiums
  • UP premiums
  • Standard premiums

 

All lead to complaints.



Weaponise #19 Posted 23 December 2015 - 11:54 PM

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"Nerf everything that can defeat me in my IS3!!!!"

Enforcer1975 #20 Posted 24 December 2015 - 04:02 AM

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No...you were just bad from the beginning without realizing it...

http://wotlabs.net/eu/player/Doomspell42


Edited by Enforcer1975, 24 December 2015 - 04:02 AM.





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