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spuriousmonkey #21 Posted 06 January 2016 - 12:25 PM

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if you are used to playing tanks like the amx 13 75 than the skoda t25 is pretty good. Shitty pen and bad gun handling is what you get on lots of tanks.

 

After 24 games I have 960 DPG which is pretty average for tier 6 mediums with my skill set.

 

So it is probably pretty balanced with other tier 6 meds.

 

 



DracheimFlug #22 Posted 06 January 2016 - 12:32 PM

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View PostConor_Notorious_McGregor, on 06 January 2016 - 09:52 AM, said:

 

how many? pick a number..

 

100 often comes up as a minimum, at least on NA discussions....  And the OP saying things like '2 more battles and they both ended in 5-15 defeats' again is looking at small samples and  implies an expectation that the tank will somehow prevent blowouts.

brynje #23 Posted 06 January 2016 - 12:34 PM

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View PostDesyatnik_Pansy, on 06 January 2016 - 09:40 AM, said:

 

Really? I thought it seemed to actually be quite liked, some people say it's the best tank of the line until you get to the Tier IX/X. :unsure:

 

Well compared to the entire line it's probably one of the few tanks that can be considered a keeper for some people - apart from the IX and X ofc.. however people didn't seem fond of it when I read about it on wotlabs.. but I find it a fun little tonk. Not sure how it is compared to other t6 meds though.. could probably do with a lilttle buff.. like I said - maybe one more shell in the clip would be fine. 

At the moment I keep Rudy and A43 for t6 platoons and I'm gonna keep this one as well even though it might be a notch worse.. but yeah I just find it a fun little tank. I mean.. autoloader t6 med :D Also my crew is potato on it right now... I think this tank can become pretty beast with 2-3 skills :playing:

 

Actually my main problem playing the tank is not the tank itself.. but the teams I get on these tiers.. I simply dont have time to do enough. Maybe it's best for toons ^^



Jumping_Turtle #24 Posted 06 January 2016 - 12:41 PM

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View Postbrynje, on 06 January 2016 - 12:34 PM, said:

 

 Maybe it's best for toons ^^

 

It is. With two or even three you have a large amount of damage within a few seconds. Most of the times players don't even notice or have enough time to turn their turrets by the time I unload my three shells.

 

And with two you have on average 660 damage in 2.66 seconds and being able to repeat that just 7 seconds later.



Jumping_Turtle #25 Posted 06 January 2016 - 12:47 PM

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My overal WN8 is 1131 and in the Skoda my WN8 is 2161 after 116 battles.

 

Reached my first MOE after 86 battles with an average damage of 886. After 116 battles I am at 72%



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View PostHumping_Turtle, on 06 January 2016 - 11:47 AM, said:

My overal WN8 is 1131 and in the Skoda my WN8 is 2161 after 116 battles.

 

Reached my first MOE after 86 battles with an average damage of 886. After 116 battles I am at 72%

 

WN8 and MoE says more about how you play the tank compared to other players in the same tank than it says about the tank compared to other tanks.

Just saying.

Many people think that if they score high WN8 in a tank, it must be because the tank is good.

It isn't.



tajj7 #27 Posted 06 January 2016 - 12:50 PM

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View PostDesyatnik_Pansy, on 06 January 2016 - 08:45 AM, said:

 

The turning is literally the single biggest reason I personally disliked it and ended up spending like 20,000 Free XP Just to get to the T-34/100. :sceptic:

 

I ground it out but then free XP'd the tier 7 and 8 they looked average at best to me and offered nothing different to average tier 7 and 8 meds I've had to grind out.

 

But yeh the turning does stop it from doing some medium things, it's basically a little exploiter of opportunities much like it's tier 9 and 10 big brothers, it's a support tank so you need meatshields and distractions, but if you have them it's very deadly. it's essentially a 330 alpha gun on a mobile tier 6 med. Also again like it's big brothers and unlike most autloaders it has good gun handling, you don't sit there aiming for ages or get frustrated with random misses. 

 

 



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View Postgpalsson, on 06 January 2016 - 01:49 PM, said:

 

WN8 and MoE says more about how you play the tank compared to other players in the same tank than it says about the tank compared to other tanks.

Just saying.

Many people think that if they score high WN8 in a tank, it must be because the tank is good.

It isn't.

 

True. That is why I look at how it compares to tier 6 meds in my hands that I also play recently. It performs pretty similar to other tier 6 meds.

 

Good wn8 score with lower average damage just means it is a good statpadder or the wn8 score will be adjusted at a later date when a more realistic figure is gathered.

 

I have a feeling it struggles a bit in tier 8 games, but most tier 6 meds do that. I guess one of the few tier 6 meds that do well in tier 8 is the rudy/t34-85. Decent armor + decent gun + decent pen/gold pen + decent mobility + decent camo.

 

The skoda suffers a bit in some categories. But then again it is somewhat easier to do damage in tier 8 games.



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View Postgpalsson, on 06 January 2016 - 12:49 PM, said:

 

WN8 and MoE says more about how you play the tank compared to other players in the same tank than it says about the tank compared to other tanks.

Just saying.

Many people think that if they score high WN8 in a tank, it must be because the tank is good.

It isn't.

 

didnt really mean that to be honest, was more of an example that I really like this little tank and somehow it works for me.

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View PostHumping_Turtle, on 06 January 2016 - 11:58 AM, said:

 

didnt really mean that to be honest, was more of an example that I really like this little tank and somehow it works for me.

 

Ah ok, I misunderstood.

But yeah, it's not too bad, but it's nowhere near rudy from cromwell imo.


Edited by gpalsson, 06 January 2016 - 01:08 PM.


Bennyboymothman #31 Posted 06 January 2016 - 01:44 PM

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Same, love it. Nearly at my second MOE in it. It is great also in Strongholds.
I carry 9 gold rounds for tier 8 games, but the 132 pen is fine...use your fast speed to flank around heavies.
Quite easy to circle of death Russian heavies as you only have a 6 second reload for the 300+ dmg clip.

I am actually facing a dilemma about the crew for this as I want to get the T34/100 but might keep the 4 skill crew in the T25 and start a new crew...hmmm

Jeg_er_mig #32 Posted 06 January 2016 - 02:09 PM

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Like it to, just have a few game still,,,but &"%"&¤%& you got to peek and shot, it cant take much damages...

 

It deep green for me...

 

 


Edited by THF_DK, 06 January 2016 - 02:20 PM.


GhostintheTenk #33 Posted 06 January 2016 - 02:18 PM

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It's basically the only tank of that line that that I remember having difficulties with, got oneclipped by that thing quite a few times.

 

And as the others already pointed out: It's just EIGHT matches. It's beyond stupid to judge a performance after those few matches. Especially if you only look at the WR.


Edited by GhostintheTenk, 06 January 2016 - 02:18 PM.


Xodatna86 #34 Posted 06 January 2016 - 02:29 PM

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I find the CZ T25 very good. No issue dealing dmg even against tier 8. 

 

One of the best Tier 6 medium tank IMO



Balc0ra #35 Posted 06 January 2016 - 02:31 PM

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8 games is not much to go by tbh. I don't have a heap load of battles in mine either. But so far I do enjoy it, even in +2 games. It's 3 round burst is rather effective as the reload is short. So even if you just waste 1 shot, you can afford to reload after destroying a target. Or by simply relocating as it's less then 8 seconds with a half baked crew even. Gun handling if you fully aim at long distance even vs +2 targets on their flank works fine. I enjoy this more then the premium T-25 that IMO has rubbish gun handling, regardless of what you do.

 

It's not Cromwell good. But still good so far.


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Bulldog_Drummond #36 Posted 06 January 2016 - 08:27 PM

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The gun has the same pen and accuracy as the HT no 6 - i.e. not amazing but I find it perfectly workable, and the Skoda should be able to flank, which is not something that the HT can easily do.

janmb #37 Posted 07 January 2016 - 08:40 AM

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The T-25 is perfectly fine. Yes, you need to take some gold, but not full.



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I get a similar performance, in my T25 and T40, something I can't manage in the TVP VTU or T-34/100, at least not as far as WR is concerned. Having said that, the performance in the TVP VTU is improving since I decided to give up on the stock turret.

 

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____prophet____ #39 Posted 07 January 2016 - 04:24 PM

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Without 6th sense it was a real pain. But with 6th sense, snap shot, smooth ride - it is excellent. I have so far had two sets of 12+ games with 1450+ average damage. After 100 games 2 MoE, which

is about 50% faster than with most tanks. Goes to show there is great variance in how well people do in this tank. With BiA active it will be even better. Gun handling is 2nd best in tier (after the easy8)

and base accuracy is much better so overall you have pretty much the most reliable gun in tier.

 

You have to know how to play autoloaders and you have to load a healthy amount of APCR to be relevant in tier 7 & 8 games. In ideal circumstances you can penetrate the side armor of 95% of

enemy tanks without premium, but to be reliable I have 50/50 ammo loadout. Some non-prem advocates will say you don't really need "gold" but the strength of this tank is the 330-hp burst damage.

If you bounce one or two shots per clip, your strength is no more.

 

You have to learn to minimize exposure time while trying to shoot at enemies whenever your clip is loaded. Also it is necessery to understand to NOT always empty the clip - just one shot may be fine if you risk taking damage otherwise. Reload time is so quick you''re seldom wasting useful time even if you reload after just one shot fired.

 

In the beginning of a game I go to an aggressive spotting location and empty my clip into the first enemy I spot. Then immediately I relocate to support my more aggressive team mates in the mid game. You can empty your clip in the same time it takes even fast-reloading  enemy tanks to be able to shoot back. Late game; I use the speed to run around killing the remaining low-hp enemies. 

 

This is not a regular medium tank; it's most certainly a pure support vehicle the becomes a deadly cleanup device in the end game. You can't circle enemies but you can flank them and usually you have emptied your clip into their side before they have a chance to even turn their turret towards you. If you manage to bait shots from heavy tanks, you will be a force to be reckoned with even frontally. You will be able to shoot an IS four times before he's reloaded ;)


Edited by alisuorittaja, 07 January 2016 - 04:54 PM.


Palybilo #40 Posted 26 March 2018 - 08:47 PM

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Pff when you do a comparison, the T24 is actually better...lol

Maybe i better quit with the Czechs.

 

Or is T34 100 any good?







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