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FV4202 Premium - Why is it so bad? UPDATE - Buff Incoming.

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RaeudigerRonny #21 Posted 10 January 2016 - 07:44 PM

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View Postduncham1, on 10 January 2016 - 06:15 PM, said:

 

Or, that it needs to be worse than line counterpart - Cent 1 being one of the weakest VIII meds

 

 

 

Thats probably the main reason why the stats arent great.



ExclamationMark #22 Posted 10 January 2016 - 07:58 PM

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I think it's quite simple.

WG classifies this as a "free" T8 premium tank, because people who grinded the T10 FV get it for "free".

Therefore they make it crap. Just like the premiums that they give out as rewards.



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View PostExclamationMark, on 10 January 2016 - 06:58 PM, said:

I think it's quite simple.

WG classifies this as a "free" T8 premium tank, because people who grinded the T10 FV get it for "free".

Therefore they make it crap. Just like the premiums that they give out as rewards.

 

Pretty sure it was stated the people with the T10 fv don't get it for free several times they just got the Action X instead, wg seem to have changed policy in that regard.

TsundereWaffle #24 Posted 10 January 2016 - 10:54 PM

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even if it's the worst tank there is, it still deserves a spot in my garage just because it's a FV4202

gpalsson #25 Posted 10 January 2016 - 11:44 PM

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The mission will have to be pretty easy...

Frostilicus #26 Posted 10 January 2016 - 11:54 PM

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View Postgpalsson, on 10 January 2016 - 10:44 PM, said:

The mission will have to be pretty easy...

 

This.

I've seen a few posts assuming it will be a marathon-type mission to get this free garage slot tank :) You never know, it might just be something along the lines of "play/win a battle in Cent AX" , I sure hope so anyway!



Schepel #27 Posted 11 January 2016 - 12:08 AM

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The proof is in the eating of the pudding. There is no substitute for actual play. Also, these stats may be wrong. If they have been in the game 'for ages', the actual tank may be quite different. Which might also mean it can be even worse, though. :P

PanzerKFeldherrnhalle #28 Posted 11 January 2016 - 12:09 AM

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One question. Is it true that only the players that have the Centurion Action X unlocked or bought will be able to do the mission. Or is it everyone?

In case it's the first option: is it relevant as to when you umlocked / bought the tier X medium, or only the players that had the FV$ 202 can do the mission?



Per_Saukko_EU #29 Posted 11 January 2016 - 12:10 AM

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View PostSchepel, on 11 January 2016 - 01:08 AM, said:

The proof is in the eating of the pudding. There is no substitute for actual play. Also, these stats may be wrong. If they have been in the game 'for ages', the actual tank may be quite different. Which might also mean it can be even worse, though. :P

 

They are not that old. The tank was recently replaced.  Changes may(and should) occur, but this is what we should expect as this was the tank that was tested.



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View PostPer_Saukko_EU, on 11 January 2016 - 12:10 AM, said:

 

They are not that old. The tank was recently replaced.  Changes may(and should) occur, but this is what we should expect as this was the tank that was tested.

 

Just saying I am not going to go overboard until I really know what is like. Presumably, WG wants to sell it down the line. So it has to be worth it. If it is really the single worst regular MM premium, I strongly expect that it will be buffed. If it hasn't been already. It is probably going to require a patch to introduce it, so I simply do not take these stats for granted. They may be right, but they don't have to be.

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View PostLegioCenturion, on 11 January 2016 - 12:09 AM, said:

One question. Is it true that only the players that have the Centurion Action X unlocked or bought will be able to do the mission. Or is it everyone?

In case it's the first option: is it relevant as to when you umlocked / bought the tier X medium, or only the players that had the FV$ 202 can do the mission?

 

you need to have the CAX in your garage in order to do the missions

Per_Saukko_EU #32 Posted 11 January 2016 - 12:24 AM

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View PostSchepel, on 11 January 2016 - 01:14 AM, said:

 

Just saying I am not going to go overboard until I really know what is like. Presumably, WG wants to sell it down the line. So it has to be worth it. If it is really the single worst regular MM premium, I strongly expect that it will be buffed. If it hasn't been already. It is probably going to require a patch to introduce it, so I simply do not take these stats for granted. They may be right, but they don't have to be.

 

Did you see FV201 (A45)? :B

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View PostWafflePanzer, on 10 January 2016 - 11:16 PM, said:

 

you need to have the CAX in your garage in order to do the missions

 

Just that. Youre not required to have owned the FV4 202 when it was the tier X medium? Thanks for answering.

Schepel #34 Posted 11 January 2016 - 12:29 AM

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View PostPer_Saukko_EU, on 11 January 2016 - 12:24 AM, said:

 

Did you see FV201 (A45)? :B

 

I got it, and believe it or not, quite enjoy playing it. It just works (for me). Then again, the DPM on that thing is around 2100 if memory serves.

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View PostLegioCenturion, on 11 January 2016 - 12:27 AM, said:

 

Just that. Youre not required to have owned the FV4 202 when it was the tier X medium? Thanks for answering.

 

Just that. :-)

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Just another thing Im sorry for the ignorance. Until when do you need to have the Centurion Action X? January 19th?

Also, do you need to buy the tank or unlocking it is enough?



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View PostPer_Saukko_EU, on 10 January 2016 - 04:00 PM, said:

 

You can go outdoors, find a dogshit, pick it up and eat it. Just because it's free does not make it worth eating.

 

Don't like it? Don't play it. Simple as that. We have the chance to get a Tier VIII Premium for free and all you muppets do is whining and complaining.Some people... spoiled brats.

 



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View PostLegioCenturion, on 11 January 2016 - 12:31 AM, said:

Just another thing Im sorry for the ignorance. Until when do you need to have the Centurion Action X? January 19th?

Also, do you need to buy the tank or unlocking it is enough?

 

as I said, you need to have the CAX in your garage in order to get the mission, or well, I am not 100% sure but better safe than sorry aye?

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View Postpapragu, on 11 January 2016 - 01:32 AM, said:

 

Don't like it? Don't play it. Simple as that. We have the chance to get a Tier VIII Premium for free and all you muppets do is whining and complaining.Some people... spoiled brats.

 

 

That "WELL DON'T PLAY IT" argument brings nothing to the discussion. It's just like "IT'S YOUR OPINION :)" that people use when they have nothing relevant to say.

 

The reality is that the tank is complete garbage. The fact some people will get it for free doesn't change any of that. It still sucks, no matter how many players get it for free. That's the whole point of this topic. Yes, it's always nice to get a free tank. But it's a tier 8 premium with normal matchmaking. The tank is going to be facing tier 9's and 10's all the time. It needs to have something more than 226 penetration and "it being free". What's the point of introducing a vehicle at all if it's going to be outright terrible at everything? Why not just make a decent vehicle instead? Why waste good resources on creating a tank that just doesn't have any role to play in any battle?


The last time I saw such a clear case of a tank being hopelessly bad was when Kanonenjagdpanzer was released. It simply had nothing going for it. The situation here is the same. Whatever this tank does, almost all other premiums do better. It has the combination of a bad gun, bad armor, bad camo and bad mobility. If a tank has 226 penetration but nothing else going for it, the fact it is "free" doesn't mean anything. 

 

Provided that the tank doesn't see major changes, if this isn't going to be one of the worst 3 premium tanks at tier 8, I will eat a hatful of sh*t.

 

Oh, and just to clear it up: I am not being bitter here, just a realist. I don't own Centurion Action X so this tank will be out of my league and I don't suffer from this tank being bad in any way. Meanwhile, I own a Cromwell B and am very happy to train my British crews with it. Really, I have no personal motives regarding this tank. It's just sh*t and I don't see why WG even bothers giving away such tanks that will only result in a negative reception. If the developers are too blind to see that this tank is doomed, then we have a serious problem.


Edited by Per_Saukko_EU, 11 January 2016 - 01:04 AM.


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Must admit it looks pretty dire. If the mission is going to take much beyond my normal play it will get noped unless that tank gets some serious buffing.




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