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[VeryRisky]

I've just got the comedy 152mm gun and would like advice on the setup.   I currently have:

 

Vents

V-stab

Optis

 

and running with: 

Small Repair kit

Small Medi Kit

100-Octane

 

I'm not sure I want a rammer when the reload is forever either way.   I'm almost temped to run it with net and bins as the aim time is over 3s.   Crew is currently:

 

Commander 6th Sense + 83% Camo

Gunner 77% Camo

Driver 100% Camo +40% offroad

Loader 100% Camo +42% repairs

[Kupsztas]

I would recommend having smooth ride and snap shot, these two won't directly decrease aim time, but the starting point will be better. also cola instead of 100-octane. 

I was running with v-stab, vents and a rammer and it was... acceptable for a derp. I wasn't really scouting much, as this thing has rather poor camo. I used it for countering enemy spots.

Edited by Kupsztas, 11 January 2016 - 06:51 AM.

[anonym_kL7qtn3e52MB]

VeryRisky, on 11 January 2016 - 12:58 AM, said:

I've just got the comedy 152mm gun and would like advice on the setup.   I currently have:

 

Vents

V-stab

Optis

 

and running with: 

Small Repair kit

Small Medi Kit

100-Octane

 

I'm not sure I want a rammer when the reload is forever either way.   I'm almost temped to run it with net and bins as the aim time is over 3s.   Crew is currently:

 

Commander 6th Sense + 83% Camo

Gunner 77% Camo

Driver 100% Camo +40% offroad

Loader 100% Camo +42% repairs

 

T-49 with clowngun:

 

Use your other gun. You will be much more effective in a game.

 

[Eila_Juutilainen]

Spek_en_Bonen, on 11 January 2016 - 11:12 AM, said:

 

Use your other gun. You will be much more effective in a game.

 

 

Kind of defeats the whole point of owning the thing, though. RU251 is a better LT with a 90mm gun.

[VeryRisky]

I did have some fun with the 90mm but sometime you feel very undergunned.

 

The best two from the last couple of days

http://www.vbaddict.net/battleimage/veryrisky/fjords-usa-t49-69154571260367804.png

http://www.vbaddict.net/battleimage/veryrisky/lakeville-usa-t49-48389989227096098.png

 

Edited by VeryRisky, 11 January 2016 - 02:52 PM.

[Taegus]

Spek_en_Bonen, on 11 January 2016 - 11:12 AM, said:

 

T-49 with clowngun:

 

Use your other gun. You will be much more effective in a game.

 

 

No you won't. Its useless with that pen.

[Taegus]

In my opinion you need to maximize the GUN. The tank is all about that 152. First of all if you don't have a 4 skill crew, you will suffer. You need all the gun improving skills + BIA + sixth sense + cammo. Then you need vents + Cola, so you maximize, aim time, dispresion values and reload.

 

So this leaves you with GLD + VSTAB. Rammer, while shortening reload, does not help with horrible gun stats. In this setup I was making quite crazy shoots, to bad I don't have replays from that time. If you check my stats on T49 you will see I was very succesfull with it and it was 99% solo play.

[anonym_kL7qtn3e52MB]

Taegus, on 11 January 2016 - 03:07 PM, said:

In my opinion you need to maximize the GUN. The tank is all about that 152. First of all if you don't have a 4 skill crew, you will suffer. You need all the gun improving skills + BIA + sixth sense + cammo. Then you need vents + Cola, so you maximize, aim time, dispresion values and reload.

 

So this leaves you with GLD + VSTAB. Rammer, while shortening reload, does not help with horrible gun stats. In this setup I was making quite crazy shoots, to bad I don't have replays from that time. If you check my stats on T49 you will see I was very succesfull with it and it was 99% solo play.

 

Excellent results (out of my reach).

But I have to disagree with it not having enough penetration.

250 penetration is not bad for a LT (in fact, only the 13-90 matches it, the rest has lower penetration)

It also does a sweet amount of damage @320, ~2/3 of both aim time and dispersion  and 9 shots a minute.

Not great for WNhate... but awesome at de-tracking , fighting other LT's/Frenchies, de-capping

 

I get the 152, but it's just too long a reload to play as forward as I usually do.

 

[Eila_Juutilainen]

Spek_en_Bonen, on 11 January 2016 - 06:11 PM, said:

250 penetration is not bad for a LT (in fact, only the 13-90 matches it, the rest has lower penetration)

It also does a sweet amount of damage @320, ~2/3 of both aim time and dispersion  and 9 shots a minute.

 

Uhm... no, 250 pen is the HEAT gold round, which does only 240 damage. The standard round is HE with 102mm pen and 320 damage.

[VeryRisky]

Well I have my battles on vbaaddict and know when I switched guns so it will be interesting to see how I do by comparison.
   No big games yet with the 152 but a good bit of entertainment.  I notice it is deadly in the end game where the opponents are low on HP so a 350hp E-100 is just as much a one shot as you are

[anonym_kL7qtn3e52MB]

Eila_Juutilainen, on 11 January 2016 - 06:50 PM, said:

 

Uhm... no, 250 pen is the HEAT gold round, which does only 240 damage. The standard round is HE with 102mm pen and 320 damage.

 

And the other LT's do a whopping 250 damage.... yawn.... which is exactly 10 more damage...

And you underestimate 102mm HE penetration.

Which other HE shell (from a regular tank) has 102mm HE pen?  (A challenge with no prizes b.t.w.)

Even T10 guns don't have that kind of HE pen.

 

(for ease/lazy searches)

http://wiki.wargamin.../Tank:R109_T54S

http://wiki.wargamin...7_WZ131_1_WZ132

http://wiki.wargamin...ank:G103_RU_251

http://wiki.wargamin.../Tank:AMX_13_90

http://wiki.wargaming.net/en/Tank:T49

 

 

T10 tanks:

http://wiki.wargamin...Tank:A69_T110E5

http://wiki.wargaming.net/en/Tank:IS-7

http://wiki.wargamin.../Tank:Object268      <----NOT EVEN THE MIGHTY 268...

 

 

P.S. Prem rounds are the norm friend.

Edited by Spek_en_Bonen, 12 January 2016 - 09:51 AM.

[Toompie]

Spek_en_Bonen, on 12 January 2016 - 08:50 AM, said:

 

And the other LT's do a whopping 250 damage.... yawn.... which is exactly 10 more damage...

And you underestimate 102mm HE penetration.

Which other HE shell (from a regular tank) has 102mm HE pen?  (A challenge with no prizes b.t.w.)

Even T10 guns don't have that kind of HE pen.

 

(for ease/lazy searches)

http://wiki.wargamin.../Tank:R109_T54S

http://wiki.wargamin...7_WZ131_1_WZ132

http://wiki.wargamin...ank:G103_RU_251

http://wiki.wargamin.../Tank:AMX_13_90

http://wiki.wargaming.net/en/Tank:T49

 

 

T10 tanks:

http://wiki.wargamin...Tank:A69_T110E5

http://wiki.wargaming.net/en/Tank:IS-7

http://wiki.wargamin.../Tank:Object268      <----NOT EVEN THE MIGHTY 268...

 

 

P.S. Prem rounds are the norm friend.

 

As said before, if you want to use a light tank with a 90mm, use the Ru, it has way better gun stats, the same HEAT and HE pen, while also having normal AP rounds and on top of that better mobility and camo rating. The whole purpose of the t49 is its derp cannon, otherwise the Ru is just better in every way.

Edited by Toompie, 12 January 2016 - 10:06 AM.

[VeryRisky]

....now about the T49 setup with the 152? 

[Toompie]

See the suggestions from Taegus. I don't have the tank itself, only have it unlocked atm, but I imagine the following is essential:

 

- Switch the octane for cola/auto fire ext, or at least a manual fire ext.

- Gun skills on driver/gunner (Smooth Ride and Snap Shot) + camo

- I generally prefer optics, rammer and v-stab on my higher tier light tanks, but depending on the level of your crew: if you have BiA and viewrange skills (recon and situational awareness) and can afford cola, you might want to consider switching optics for vents as you can still obtain maximum spotting distance. I wouldn't use EGLD, but that is personal preference as I only use EGLD on arty.

 

Edit: Just saw the dispersion values of the T49, so maybe EGLD is the way to go, but can't say that for sure as I haven't played the tank. I would suggest to try out some setups.

 

Good luck

Edited by Toompie, 12 January 2016 - 01:42 PM.

[obluda100]

As the guys before me i recommend switching to cola, then u need to go for aiming skills.

Now for the equipment: I use rammer, stabs and optics, but i have crew with nearly 5 skills, so for your crew i would do this:

A-rammer, stabs and EGLD, and when you get those snapshot skills, then change to mine setup.

B-rammer, vents and stabs, but i think that the efect of vents does not worth for not having optics

 

For me there is not one reason to not take rammer, if you want to play scout you would be better playing RU or WZ (or 13 90 but whatever)

My opinion is that this tank needs to be played like dmg dealer, so you have to increase your DPM, and then its BS to take vents rather than rammer, 

 

[Eila_Juutilainen]

obluda100, on 12 January 2016 - 01:45 PM, said:

 

My opinion is that this tank needs to be played like dmg dealer, so you have to increase your DPM, and then its BS to take vents rather than rammer, 

 

 

The thing is, Vents further improves your aimtime and accuracy. DPM is useless when you spend too much time aiming anyway, especially if you still don't hit afterwards.

[Taegus]

Spek_en_Bonen, on 12 January 2016 - 09:50 AM, said:

 

And the other LT's do a whopping 250 damage.... yawn.... which is exactly 10 more damage...

And you underestimate 102mm HE penetration.

Which other HE shell (from a regular tank) has 102mm HE pen?  (A challenge with no prizes b.t.w.)

Even T10 guns don't have that kind of HE pen.

 

(for ease/lazy searches)

http://wiki.wargamin.../Tank:R109_T54S

http://wiki.wargamin...7_WZ131_1_WZ132

http://wiki.wargamin...ank:G103_RU_251

http://wiki.wargamin.../Tank:AMX_13_90

http://wiki.wargaming.net/en/Tank:T49

 

 

T10 tanks:

http://wiki.wargamin...Tank:A69_T110E5

http://wiki.wargaming.net/en/Tank:IS-7

http://wiki.wargamin.../Tank:Object268      <----NOT EVEN THE MIGHTY 268...

 

 

P.S. Prem rounds are the norm friend.

 

RU, has the 102 HE pen What is my prize?

[Taegus]

obluda100, on 12 January 2016 - 01:45 PM, said:

As the guys before me i recommend switching to cola, then u need to go for aiming skills.

Now for the equipment: I use rammer, stabs and optics, but i have crew with nearly 5 skills, so for your crew i would do this:

A-rammer, stabs and EGLD, and when you get those snapshot skills, then change to mine setup.

B-rammer, vents and stabs, but i think that the efect of vents does not worth for not having optics

 

For me there is not one reason to not take rammer, if you want to play scout you would be better playing RU or WZ (or 13 90 but whatever)

My opinion is that this tank needs to be played like dmg dealer, so you have to increase your DPM, and then its BS to take vents rather than rammer, 

 

 

I agree, this tank is a damage dealer, so optics is not needed, cause you won't be spoting a lot. You are a harraser, tracking machine and cripler at the same time. You track tanks, criple them and finish low HP targets. For that you need to HIT. All else should be under this goal. Rammer is ok, but it won't help you if you miss.

 

In my opinion GLD is a must as the aim time is horrible and you need to minimize the exposure. Its long as it is. Also vents benefit you way more then optics if you have BIA + cola. They improve all stats including viewrange and gun skills. So for me there is only one really viable setup: Vents + VSTAB + GLD. I could somehow see rammer instead of GLD but imho its not worth it.

Edited by Taegus, 13 January 2016 - 09:14 AM.

[VeryRisky]

Well I haven't changed the kit out but I did just Ace it and do LT-15 for the Stug

 

http://www.vbaddict.net/battleimage/veryrisky/prokhorovka-usa-t49-38497245025681476.png

 

That's the thing, it might be a damage dealer, but what I needed to do in that battle was skaut first and the optis will have helped.

 

[anonym_kL7qtn3e52MB]

Taegus, on 13 January 2016 - 09:08 AM, said:

 

RU, has the 102 HE pen What is my prize?

 

" (A challenge with no prizes b.t.w.)"