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Velvet_Underground #41 Posted 27 May 2016 - 08:07 PM

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View Postcaptain_white_tiger, on 27 May 2016 - 07:11 PM, said:

After WT replacement B-C is only tank in gam with one-clipping capability. So it definitely needs nerf.

 

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View Postcaptain_white_tiger, on 27 May 2016 - 06:11 PM, said:

After WT replacement B-C is only tank in gam with one-clipping capability. So it definitely needs nerf.

 

After WT replacement B-C is still weak tier X med while being only tier X scout... you need a nerf though, that is for sure.

HidesHisFace #43 Posted 28 May 2016 - 08:53 AM

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Bat-Chat used to be OP... when it was first introduced - but current iteration has been nerfed to oblivion. Unless it is in wolf-pack, it is not a very good machine at all. 

The problem it has is that two of the main advantages of this vehicle do not work well together:

- It has great mobility at the cost of armour - so it needs to keep moving to stay alive.

- It is an autoloader with solid damage potential - but it effectively has to be stationary to fire due to terrible gun handling - so it effectively negates the mobility advantage.

 

Now, when it is in wolf-pack, it becomes very dangerous because Bat-Chat suddenly CAN take speculative shots if they work together. But... it can be said about virtually any other medium in the game anyway.



ITALUX #44 Posted 28 May 2016 - 10:50 AM

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View PostAkathis, on 25 March 2016 - 05:08 PM, said:

I manage to slaughter enemy tanks in my amx 13-57gf with ease, with 144 pen and 90 dmg in a 8-shoot canister. Imagine what I could do in a batchat (dont bother to grind the horrible amx 13-90) and/or skodas (i will never grind those tier 7 and 8 turds). 3,5-4K dmg/match assured.

 

And here you lost your credibility...

 

 

 

 

Anyway, my opinion is that the batchat is not op at all with all his terrible stats, but it has a great potential so good players will do great in it and scrubs will do nothing... 

Stats are there to be analized -dont ignore them if you want to have an argument or you'll just look like a priest who doesn't believe the earth is round when sciencehas proven it- and they prove that the batchat is one of the best only in one category: kills. You wanna know why? Because it is designed to be a fracking assassin. If it couldnt perform that job either it really would be a shiet tank. 

To be honest, after playing it i can just say that it needs a BUFF since the introduction of the skodas...


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DEATHRIDE_2015 #45 Posted 04 July 2016 - 09:32 PM

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whats good about bat chat lets see;

top speed power to weight size and camo

bad soft stats bad aiming accuracy bad dpm terrible  traverse disgusting overall needs buff

 

 



SilentFear #46 Posted 27 July 2016 - 10:34 AM

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I must be horribad player then.

I have the Bat Chat and i rather take one of the soviet hovertractors or german smash E-50tractor then the Bat out for a spin.

 

While yeah - great clip, good alpha and quite the mobility - whit the current maps made of tunels, close combat, lack of soft cover you will often be forced to trade whit tanks. And this tank just cant survive a trade shot for shot. And yes late game it can rack up kills but early game on a map like Pilsen or Karkhov - where you cant simply flank and park next to a heavy - you will have a bad day.

 

I find the Bat balanced in most cases.



HunterXHunter8 #47 Posted 14 August 2016 - 07:43 PM

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bat is still broken

the ability to cheese any tank every 37 secs is hilarious

only few vehicles have this ability at tier 10

 

is tvp better then  bc?? yes it is

but it doesn't outclass BC like 50b does to t57.

 

bc still has higher burst and pen.



Eat_My_Bullet #48 Posted 16 August 2016 - 06:23 PM

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There should be never a tank which can clip same tier tanks. They need to get shell removal or less damage per shoot.

 



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View PostEat_My_Bullet, on 16 August 2016 - 06:23 PM, said:

There should be never a tank which can clip same tier tanks. They need to get shell removal or less damage per shoot.

 

How often do you exactly get to clip another full health tier X that didn't misplay horribly?

 

Besides, if it lost a shell, but got compensated with buff to the abysmal gun handling and lowered in-clip reload time - sign me up, I want this "nerf".



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I don't like high tier autoloaders in this game, they're able to punish someone far too hard in relatively safe positions due to the good  mobility of mediums w. autoloaders.

 

Also, there's clearly an issue in the tournament play, all I see is batchats, sometimes entire teams of ONLY batchats. In any other game which pretends to be competitive there'd have been a nerf already to promote more varied play.

 

As for which nerf would be appropriate, I am too scrub to say. 

 

 


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HunterXHunter8 #51 Posted 28 September 2016 - 08:55 PM

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View Postkeyres, on 18 August 2016 - 12:13 PM, said:

 

How often do you exactly get to clip another full health tier X that didn't misplay horribly?

 

Besides, if it lost a shell, but got compensated with buff to the abysmal gun handling and lowered in-clip reload time - sign me up, I want this "nerf".

 

few weeks ago an t-62 made mistake of misjudging my reload time, i one-clipped his soviet butt. 

 

his reaction was "holy crap i am not gonna mess with a batchat ever again"

 

i also would trade one shot for faster reload, in-clip reload or better gun handling. 



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View Postdel501032811, on 28 January 2016 - 05:17 AM, said:

My experience while playing this game is that there is only one  so OP and so unfair tank that ruins game play satisfaction. And that one as you guess is Batchat 25t. Reason is that it have gigantic alpha of 390 with 5 shells that he sprays at even most armored tanks with ease. Besides that he is extremely small, extremely fast and therefore very unfair to counter when meet in game. 

 

I would like to see nerf in most or some of these ways:

-Make it larger in terms of width/height/length.

-Make it slower

-Lower its alpha damage

-Lower its hp pool

-Increase its clip reload time

-Reduce its turret and track traverse speed

-Make its gun less precise on the move

-Reduce its penetration

-Increase chance of ammo racking it/setting it on fire

-Increase cost of shells for it

-Reduce its cammo

-Put it in hardest battle tier with all tier Xs that have more armor in general

 

Or even better remove it from the game and replace with more fair vehicle and make it premium 8 vehicle with all these changes that I proposed.

 

In total agreement with you ...no tank is so op...look at its mobility of a light tank ....camo of a scout....damage potential more than ANY tank ....it hits and runs away....and gun handling my foot when u can encircle your enemies to death.....and not even a single shot missing.

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View PostHunterXHunter8, on 28 September 2016 - 07:55 PM, said:

 

few weeks ago an t-62 made mistake of misjudging my reload time, i one-clipped his soviet butt. 

 

his reaction was "holy crap i am not gonna mess with a batchat ever again"

 

i also would trade one shot for faster reload, in-clip reload or better gun handling. 

 

Again, you punished enemy terrible misplay, and again - it rarely happens. Most drums will be 4/5 pens at best, usually 2-3/5 in most cases from the BCs that I met. So what is OP in it again?

 

Assassins are rarely OP in this game, late game carry potential is not the best thing to win games.



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View PostANM31, on 14 June 2017 - 09:02 AM, said:

 

In total agreement with you ...no tank is so op...look at its mobility of a light tank ....camo of a scout....damage potential more than ANY tank ....it hits and runs away....and gun handling my foot when u can encircle your enemies to death.....and not even a single shot missing.

 

Maybe you want to check out its actual stats and abilities rather than making them up as you go along.

Noo_Noo #55 Posted 15 June 2017 - 11:21 AM

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I think the issue is simply autoloaders. 

They can be good an bad. Difficult to play and yet so rewarding too when it goes well. 

 

Other than that the other issues I have with Batchats is their camo rating and view range. Why would you play a Tier 10 light when you can do the same and more in this medium?



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View PostNoo_Noo, on 15 June 2017 - 11:21 AM, said:

I think the issue is simply autoloaders. 

They can be good an bad. Difficult to play and yet so rewarding too when it goes well. 

 

Other than that the other issues I have with Batchats is their camo rating and view range. Why would you play a Tier 10 light when you can do the same and more in this medium?

 

I would go with view range.(same for many TX meds) Though it needs the camo to be viable. Then as you say, it would let the gimped Tx lights have some sort of role rather than being place holders for the mmker.

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Yeah, GG, nerf the Batchat
So I must grind a tank for noob like Type 5 or Maus, it's clear that WG thinks more at tomatoes than a player can be use correctly an autoloader tank.

DeltaOperator #58 Posted 23 June 2017 - 01:42 AM

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Nerf incoming :-D

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View PostDeltaOperator, on 23 June 2017 - 01:42 AM, said:

Nerf incoming :-D

 

Yup. Apparently WG took off the 105mm gun on test. Instead of 5*390 we now get 6*300 damage, slightly lower but a longer time to unload the magazine. Although the reload went down a bit? A direct nerf to burst damage, but sustained output and flexibility might be going up a little.

 



Zamolxeess #60 Posted 24 June 2017 - 05:54 PM

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Yep, the nerf arty, now they are nerfing the batchat and the foch155. Gj Wg!

Plz nerf the obj 263 and strv 103B next, i can still pen a type5 and maus  whis regular ammo in those.






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