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RustyGrayWOLF #1 Posted 02 March 2016 - 11:54 AM

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So, I've seen a couple of videos on a new tier 7 German premium tank, the ''leKpz M 41 90 mm'', and it got me kind of excited. I've also been thinking of getting a tier 8 premium tank, as I will be needing a good credit earner for a tier 10 soon. Now, the bulldog is my favorite tank in the game and when I saw what I just saw I thought wargaming could read my mind. 

 

I quote (from the in development section):

''New Premium Tanks:

leKpz M 41 90 mm (German Tier VIII Light Tank)''

 

Is is true or just a typo?

Man, it would be so perfect having my favorite tank in the game as a tier 8 premium tank just when I need one.



tnk_x5000 #2 Posted 03 March 2016 - 12:33 PM

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Could be both a mistake or a change in plans for the tank. With the current inflation of tier 8 premiums and people buying them, I won't be surprised if they do put it in tier 8, but I do hope it also gets an extra buff, so it can be better suited for the tier 9 battle tier.

Eokokok #3 Posted 03 March 2016 - 01:08 PM

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Doubt they will add a top tier LT, I mean yes, there are higher tiers in general, but balancing income on a tier 8 prem LT would be tricky and it is basically adding an end game LT content into the shop. Sound dubious.



RustyGrayWOLF #4 Posted 12 March 2016 - 11:54 AM

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Now that the new tanks have been added into supertest, it is possible to have a look at the lepkz m 41 90 mm in Tank Inspector. And, indeed, in Tank Inspector it also states that it is a tier VIII German Premium Light tank.

Eila_Juutilainen #5 Posted 12 March 2016 - 03:28 PM

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View PostRustyGrayWOLF, on 12 March 2016 - 11:54 AM, said:

Now that the new tanks have been added into supertest, it is possible to have a look at the lepkz m 41 90 mm in Tank Inspector. And, indeed, in Tank Inspector it also states that it is a tier VIII German Premium Light tank.

 

And aside from HP, nothing seems to be changed. 170mm pen and 0.4 accuracy at tier 8... yay?



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View PostEila_Juutilainen, on 12 March 2016 - 03:28 PM, said:

 

And aside from HP, nothing seems to be changed. 170mm pen and 0.4 accuracy at tier 8... yay?

 

And premium pen just barely above 200.

 

203 or so to be exact. That is just bad pen even for a light tank at T8 anyway. GL fighting T9 / T10 tanks with such lousy premium ammo



Velvet_Underground #8 Posted 01 April 2016 - 08:14 PM

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View PostXPuntar, on 01 April 2016 - 08:01 PM, said:

 

And premium pen just barely above 200.

 

203 or so to be exact. That is just bad pen even for a light tank at T8 anyway. GL fighting T9 / T10 tanks with such lousy premium ammo

 

Those values are wrong. When QB played it today it had 182mm AP pen and 250 HEAT pen

 


Edited by Velvet_Underground, 01 April 2016 - 08:30 PM.


Fluffy_The_Destroyer #9 Posted 02 April 2016 - 12:06 AM

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Meanwhile on 13 57F... faces tier 10... 144pen standard... bad gun stats, poor acceleration. and worse top speed than a NORMAL walker bulldog. then we get this 90mm abomination at tier 8. so why aint the normal WB at tier 8? you cant tell me normal WB is tier 7 with this new WB about. WG yet again wont own up to saying "we f**ked up with M41 WB and cant replace it so we just keep it nice and OP at tier 7 where IT DOES NOT BELONG"

 

Then again we have O-I Exp and O-I, just ruining every tier 1 at a time...slowly killing there own game.



RustyGrayWOLF #10 Posted 02 April 2016 - 12:23 PM

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Does anyone have an idea of if and when this beauty will be available for us? It's just been released on Asia and NA server. I know we're always short coming compared with the other servers, but they're still all WG, shouldn't it at least go on sale for a while here as well for the same prices? I really want this tank WG, don't punish me for playing on EU.

anonym_kL7qtn3e52MB #11 Posted 03 April 2016 - 11:25 AM

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Not sure about it being a credit machine.

It will train crews though. I'm sure of that.



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View PostRustyGrayWOLF, on 02 April 2016 - 11:23 AM, said:

Does anyone have an idea of if and when this beauty will be available for us? It's just been released on Asia and NA server. I know we're always short coming compared with the other servers, but they're still all WG, shouldn't it at least go on sale for a while here as well for the same prices? I really want this tank WG, don't punish me for playing on EU.

 

Just went on sale earlier today (3/4/2016). And from what I have seen of it over on Twitch it has no issues making credits, no more than any other tier eight premium tank.

GalmTwo #13 Posted 03 April 2016 - 04:20 PM

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I bought it just now, judging from the stats, it looks good. I'll see if it's really good.

Akathis #14 Posted 03 April 2016 - 10:33 PM

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Bulldog premium seen by a player keen on scouting:

 

-Huge => bigger than soviet meds, therefore easier to hit by laser guided tier 10 guns.

-Worse than tier 9 medium mm => sees tier 10 non-stop.

-25mm of armor (more or less) => every smart enemy will load HE when you are in sight. 

-Low pen => mandatory usage of premium heat when facing tier 10... good luck with sloped armored tonks.

-Somewhat low dpm => good luck trying to face autoloaders or taking down half life tier 10 heavies.

-Brittle ammorack (however not so weak as regular bulldog ammorack) => brittle because module damage of tier 10 guns is way higher.

-Corridor maps+buffed frontal armor of heavies/heavy tds => try to spot/try to do any significant damage (even more, try to do it when it matters).

 

Enjoy your purchase. I will enjoy my amx13-57 when facing them (1 tier lower tank).



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View PostAkathis, on 03 April 2016 - 10:33 PM, said:

Bulldog premium seen by a player keen on scouting:

 

-Huge => bigger than soviet meds, therefore easier to hit by laser guided tier 10 guns.

-Worse than tier 9 medium mm => sees tier 10 non-stop.

-25mm of armor (more or less) => every smart enemy will load HE when you are in sight. 

-Low pen => mandatory usage of premium heat when facing tier 10... good luck with sloped armored tonks.

-Somewhat low dpm => good luck trying to face autoloaders or taking down half life tier 10 heavies.

-Brittle ammorack (however not so weak as regular bulldog ammorack) => brittle because module damage of tier 10 guns is way higher.

-Corridor maps+buffed frontal armor of heavies/heavy tds => try to spot/try to do any significant damage (even more, try to do it when it matters).

 

Enjoy your purchase. I will enjoy my amx13-57 when facing them (1 tier lower tank).

 

13 57. still sees tier 10. 144pen crapgun handling. same boat i guess.

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View PostFluffy_The_Destroyer, on 03 April 2016 - 11:44 PM, said:

 

13 57. still sees tier 10. 144pen crapgun handling. same boat i guess.

 

Nope. Less tier 10 matches, less exposure for 600-800 dmg, more troll factor. Smaller.

HugsAndKisses #17 Posted 04 April 2016 - 09:05 AM

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I got the German bully and now have both the 13 57 and the M 41.

They're both enjoyable but as different as two light tanks can be.


 

13 57 is about using its camo and doing the occasional clip unload into the side or rear of an enemy tank. It does, however have poor gun handling and is very sluggish. Still fun.


 

M 41 is much more of a damage dealer. Camo isn't very good, especially compared with the 13 57, but the gun is very nice, despite the poor acc. I have yet to use a HEAT round. Both the AP and HEP are great munitions. This tank instantly became my fave tier 8 prem. It's all the CDC should have been. Still a light tank, though, so you still have to be careful not to take hits. Great fun to be had and good at making credits.


 

I currently grind three tanks. After having x2'd those, I just switch to basically 13 57/M 41 back to back battles, that's how much I like these two little buggers.



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View PostHugsAndKisses, on 04 April 2016 - 08:05 AM, said:

I got the German bully and now have both the 13 57 and the M 41.

They're both enjoyable but as different as two light tanks can be.


 

13 57 is about using its camo and doing the occasional clip unload into the side or rear of an enemy tank. It does, however have poor gun handling and is very sluggish. Still fun.


 

M 41 is much more of a damage dealer. Camo isn't very good, especially compared with the 13 57, but the gun is very nice, despite the poor acc. I have yet to use a HEAT round. Both the AP and HEP are great munitions. This tank instantly became my fave tier 8 prem. It's all the CDC should have been. Still a light tank, though, so you still have to be careful not to take hits. Great fun to be had and good at making credits.


 

I currently grind three tanks. After having x2'd those, I just switch to basically 13 57/M 41 back to back battles, that's how much I like these two little buggers.

 

I think the German Bulldog is too good. It is basically making a Tier VII light tank that already outclasses every other Tier VII light tank, and making it a Tier VIII that outclasses almost every other Tier VIII light tanks + high [edited]DPM.

 

I've got like 1300 battles in my AMX CDC, I think it is amazing. Great balancing for a Tier VIII vehicle in my opinion (doesn't really need any higher DPM because it is able to decide the pace of combat with its fantastic mobility). If we were to pretend that the M 41 90 GF's stats (excluding gun penetration), you would call it silly good and in need of a nerf. That's what the German Bully is in my opinion - silly good and in need of a nerf.


Edited by Eddlicious, 04 April 2016 - 04:19 PM.


GamerDom #19 Posted 04 April 2016 - 07:46 PM

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Pure and simple it's a great tank in my view.... i love it!

 



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View PostEddlicious, on 04 April 2016 - 03:17 PM, said:

 

I think the German Bulldog is too good. It is basically making a Tier VII light tank that already outclasses every other Tier VII light tank, and making it a Tier VIII that outclasses almost every other Tier VIII light tanks + high [edited]DPM.

 

I've got like 1300 battles in my AMX CDC, I think it is amazing. Great balancing for a Tier VIII vehicle in my opinion (doesn't really need any higher DPM because it is able to decide the pace of combat with its fantastic mobility). If we were to pretend that the M 41 90 GF's stats (excluding gun penetration), you would call it silly good and in need of a nerf. That's what the German Bully is in my opinion - silly good and in need of a nerf.

 

Considering a Tier VIII light tank the same tier as a Tier VIII medium tank is a mistake. Because a Tier VIII light tank is, in fact, a Tier IX tank and is MMatched accordingly.

 

One could concider the 90GF as a purchasable Tier IX premium tank.


Edited by Kharlos76, 05 April 2016 - 02:49 PM.





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