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Community #1 Posted 16 March 2016 - 10:16 AM

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Innocent_civilian_ #2 Posted 16 March 2016 - 10:57 AM

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COOOOMPLETE CRAP - NO GUN, NO GUN DEPRESSION, NO VIEW RANGE, NO SPEED (AND NO  POWER) - AND ARMOR IS FAKE. GUNS WITH 170 MM PENETRATION ARE MORE EFFECTIVE THAN THIS 183. I WISH THAT I NEVER SO THIS TANK IN MY GARAGE - THE SAME AS MATILDA BP. BIGGEST DISAPOINTMENT. ALWAYS AMMO RACK HIT, ALWAYS TRACK HIT, ALWAYS ON FIRE - BEST MONEY EATER IN GAME. ONLY FITS FOR CREW GRINDING. U CANT PLAY WITHOUT GOLD - AND USUALLY U GOT MINUS IN BATTLE - BECAUSE OF CONSUMABLES ARE USED NEAR EVERY BATTLE. IL WILL NEVER RECOMEND THIS TANK TO EVERYONE. BTW - USUALLY TIER 10 GAMES, AND EVEN IF U ARE ON TOP - ENEMY ALWAYS HAVE STRONGEST TIER 8 TANKS - THAT MEANS U (S...K) ANY WAY.

WaffleTiger #3 Posted 16 March 2016 - 10:59 AM

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I got most of em, this one is the best. It has a very good balance of armor, speed and dpm.

You need to know your weakspots and flank a lot through proper use of armor.



Codis172 #4 Posted 16 March 2016 - 11:06 AM

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Love this tank, best credit earner in the game for me. It can really bully the opposition when top tier, it's a beast. Because it has a low profile it doesn't need alot of gun depression (even though it has some!) The armor can be very trollish, I love it when I sidescrape and bounce everything (turret can be a bit weak sometimes)

 

It has everything and I would recommend buying this. It takes a bit getting used to but it's worth it.



Cobra6 #5 Posted 16 March 2016 - 11:18 AM

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The only thing I dislike about this tank that it's basically a superior T-44 tank. Whatever happened to premium tanks not being better than their on tier counterparts?

 

If this tank stays like this maybe buff the Lowe and T34 as well as they are completely inferior to the Tiger II and T32. Best thing would be to buff both the mobility and DPM of these two.

 

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Edited by Cobra6, 16 March 2016 - 11:18 AM.


maroar #6 Posted 16 March 2016 - 11:32 AM

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View PostCobra6, on 16 March 2016 - 11:18 AM, said:

The only thing I dislike about this tank that it's basically a superior T-44 tank. Whatever happened to premium tanks not being better than their on tier counterparts?

 

If this tank stays like this maybe buff the Lowe and T34 as well as they are completely inferior to the Tiger II and T32. Best thing would be to buff both the mobility and DPM of these two.

 

Cobra 6

 

Well, the T-34-3 is also better than the other T8 mediums wtih a 122mm.

Better than the T-44 and the T-34-2 with 122mm, you could say that it is worse because they have the 100mm guns, but if someone wants the non-premium version of a T-34-3 the gun is just worse.

 

Tank: T-34-3 T-34-2 T-44
Firepower
DPM 1,821.11 1,626.86 1,270.98
Penetration 175 175 175
Damage 390 390 390
Module Damage 165 165 165
Rate of Fire (rnds/min) 4.67 4.17 3.26
Reload Time (secs) 12.85 14.38 18.41
Clip Size n/a n/a n/a
Clip Reload (secs) n/a n/a n/a
Caliber (mm) 122 122 122
Shell Velocity (m/s) 800 800 800
Max Range (m) 720 720 720
Ammo Capacity 40 40 26
Weapon Handling
Aim Time (secs) 3.26 2.97 3.26
Accuracy 0.44 0.46 0.41
Dispersion (moving) 0.18 0.20 0.20
… (tank traverse) 0.18 0.20 0.20
… (turret traverse) 0.12 0.12 0.14
… (after firing) 4 4 4
… (damaged) 2 2 2
Elevation (°;) 15 15 23
Depression (°;) 5 5 5
Gun Traverse (°;) 180 / 180 180 / 180 180 / 180

 

 

Mobility wise the non-premiums are better, but the T-44s abismal DPM would not make up for that.

And the slightly lower DPM and worse gun handling+accuracy of the T-34-2 can also not be compensated (in my opinion) by the better manoeuvrability.

 

 

 



Gremlin182 #7 Posted 16 March 2016 - 11:42 AM

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recommended !

Armour solid 180-200 without angling .Turret very decent.180 on paper but way more in practice.

Side armour 90 so better than many heavy tanks and certainly good enough.

 

Little sluggish for a medium at 44 but not terrible

Guns been buffed a little 183 pen with 239 premium

 

limitations 34 round ammo capacity.

-6 gun depression not great but typical for the whole Soviet Chinese tanks so if your crew training your used to this problem.

But then its a premium medium tank so some below average stats for a tier 8 medium are to be expected.

 

edit just put it into tanks gg to compare it to the standard T44 as well as some of the tier 8 premium mediums including the Type 59

 

http://tanks.gg/wot/...46-kr.c:type-59

 


Edited by Gremlin182, 16 March 2016 - 11:48 AM.


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Recommended!

 

Bit sluggish, but otherwise a great tank.


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kuschmau #9 Posted 16 March 2016 - 12:30 PM

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It s neither in the store nor does the link work, gg WG once more

stonyuk #10 Posted 16 March 2016 - 12:41 PM

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View Postkuschmau, on 16 March 2016 - 11:30 AM, said:

It s neither in the store nor does the link work, gg WG once more

 

I've been pissed off about that too - but then I re-read the main page where it says "You must be logged in to see this offer" - I logged in and bingo, there it was :)



kuschmau #11 Posted 16 March 2016 - 12:54 PM

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oh, my bad then, ty for the info

Max_Calibre #12 Posted 16 March 2016 - 01:09 PM

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View Postmaroar, on 16 March 2016 - 10:32 AM, said:

 

Well, the T-34-3 is also better than the other T8 mediums wtih a 122mm.

Better than the T-44 and the T-34-2 with 122mm, you could say that it is worse because they have the 100mm guns, but if someone wants the non-premium version of a T-34-3 the gun is just worse.

 

Tank: T-34-3 T-34-2 T-44
Firepower
DPM 1,821.11 1,626.86 1,270.98
Penetration 175 175 175
Damage 390 390 390
Module Damage 165 165 165
Rate of Fire (rnds/min) 4.67 4.17 3.26
Reload Time (secs) 12.85 14.38 18.41
Clip Size n/a n/a n/a
Clip Reload (secs) n/a n/a n/a
Caliber (mm) 122 122 122
Shell Velocity (m/s) 800 800 800
Max Range (m) 720 720 720
Ammo Capacity 40 40 26
Weapon Handling
Aim Time (secs) 3.26 2.97 3.26
Accuracy 0.44 0.46 0.41
Dispersion (moving) 0.18 0.20 0.20
… (tank traverse) 0.18 0.20 0.20
… (turret traverse) 0.12 0.12 0.14
… (after firing) 4 4 4
… (damaged) 2 2 2
Elevation (°;) 15 15 23
Depression (°;) 5 5 5
Gun Traverse (°;) 180 / 180 180 / 180 180 / 180

 

 

Mobility wise the non-premiums are better, but the T-44s abismal DPM would not make up for that.

And the slightly lower DPM and worse gun handling+accuracy of the T-34-2 can also not be compensated (in my opinion) by the better manoeuvrability.

 

 

 

 

 

which is why I got the T34-3!

and don't forget the preferential MM which is a big thing not see any OP T10 seal clubbers

 

the T44 is overshadowed so much by all the new T8 Premiums that WG seem to continually spam us with

I actually like my T44 its mobility is great but its armour is nothing special at all compared to the T54 1st proto in fact its quite inferior the turret on the premium is much stronger as is the entire front of the T54 1st proto just a little slower


 

you don't see many T44 around in random battles shame really, its the nicest T8 Medium to play but also one of the weakest WG have simply left it behind forgotten it looks like


Edited by Max_Calibre, 16 March 2016 - 01:10 PM.


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View PostCodis172, on 16 March 2016 - 11:06 AM, said:

Love this tank, best credit earner in the game for me. It can really bully the opposition when top tier, it's a beast. Because it has a low profile it doesn't need alot of gun depression (even though it has some!) The armor can be very trollish, I love it when I sidescrape and bounce everything (turret can be a bit weak sometimes)

 

It has everything and I would recommend buying this. It takes a bit getting used to but it's worth it.

 

i cant stop laugh  that post - specially about  "best credit earner"

250swb #14 Posted 16 March 2016 - 01:38 PM

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I like it, easy to play and a good balance of everything without having an overriding OP feature that keeps away all those looking for instant gratification, so good. The T-54 Proto has a place on the battlefield unlike a lot of other Premium tanks.

Hardass #15 Posted 16 March 2016 - 01:38 PM

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Tempted but already have the Type 59 STA-2 and the Super P so do i need another Tier 8 prem med also have the Lowe T34 SU 122-44 and Type 64

Must resist getting card out and if misses catches me ill be in the poo.



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Mmmm…. Might buy this bad boy, played it on the test server and when matched with tier 8's it a bit of a beast. 

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View PostHardass, on 16 March 2016 - 01:38 PM, said:

Tempted but already have the Type 59 STA-2 and the Super P so do i need another Tier 8 prem med also have the Lowe T34 SU 122-44 and Type 64

Must resist getting card out and if misses catches me ill be in the poo.

 

Type 59 is superior to T54 proto in every way ...

 

and since T59 never meets T10s, there is simply no reason to get T54 if you own T59...

 

oh and before you say its for crew training - no it isnt, if you want to train crew get Rudy



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View PostAsghaad, on 16 March 2016 - 12:53 PM, said:

 

Type 59 is superior to T54 proto in every way ...

 

and since T59 never meets T10s, there is simply no reason to get T54 if you own T59...

 

oh and before you say its for crew training - no it isnt, if you want to train crew get Rudy

I would like to know how you came to that conclusion about the Type Being Superior having your self never owned the Type 59 I have come up against the T54 Proto on many occasion in my Type and found it to a tough nut to crack if played well not unbeatable but then again a worthy opponent and one that deserves respect.

 

I love my Type 59 but its not an OP tank to be fair it Never was it was Just OP when you had swarms of them running about.

 

Ps you can't buy the Rudy any more


Edited by Hardass, 16 March 2016 - 02:15 PM.


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In tier 8 its total beast,very strong coupla and decent gun the only thing i find really annoying is amount of ammo he has,he could use like extra 10 shells.

Gremlin182 #20 Posted 16 March 2016 - 02:56 PM

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View PostMax_Calibre, on 16 March 2016 - 01:09 PM, said:

 

 

which is why I got the T34-3!

and don't forget the preferential MM which is a big thing not see any OP T10 seal clubbers

 

the T44 is overshadowed so much by all the new T8 Premiums that WG seem to continually spam us with

I actually like my T44 its mobility is great but its armour is nothing special at all compared to the T54 1st proto in fact its quite inferior the turret on the premium is much stronger as is the entire front of the T54 1st proto just a little slower


 

you don't see many T44 around in random battles shame really, its the nicest T8 Medium to play but also one of the weakest WG have simply left it behind forgotten it looks like

 

I agree about the T44.a lot of older tabks in the game have become somwhat left behind by newer tanks.

 

I was loving the T43 though there were a number of players said it was rubbish.

Then I got the T44 and immediately hated it because it was so slow, but once elited it became a decent tank

Bit of a painful grind as I remember it.

 

Now I have too many tanks and seldom play the T44 maybe when I have trained a really good crew I will play it again and push towards the T54






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