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VojvodaZivojin #1 Posted 12 April 2016 - 09:40 AM

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Always in tier 10 battles, totaly depends on team, to weak for tier 10 lights and meds ....

Whether there will be improvements MM in future?



Eaglax #2 Posted 12 April 2016 - 09:53 AM

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it's a tier 8 scout...what did you expect?

VojvodaZivojin #3 Posted 12 April 2016 - 10:00 AM

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You know to read mate? Like i say - just a little better MM. Not to be always in full tier 10 battles. Thats all.

SWAT0013 #4 Posted 12 April 2016 - 12:02 PM

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Maybe you should have played some T8 LT before purchasing this one, T8 LTs' MM is very often full of T10 tanks...

RustyGrayWOLF #5 Posted 12 April 2016 - 12:59 PM

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It's matchmaking is 9,10,11. Considering there is no tier 11, that would mean 2/3 games you get tier 10. Tier 10 is also more popular than tier 9, which only ups the chance of getting into tier 10. It's standard T8 LT matchmaking, deal with it.

spamhamstar #6 Posted 12 April 2016 - 01:19 PM

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I doubt very much the OP has come up against many tier 10 or even tier 9 lights in his shiny new prem tank or in anything else for that matter.  Yes this tank does get 9,10,11 tier mm, but this refers to battle tier not what tier your tank is on the tech tree. 

 

What I fail to understand is why he feels this tank should (or is ever likely to) receive prem mm.  This type of mm is slowly being phased out of the game with the removal from sale of older prem tanks.  Looking at the regular tier X (they're tier 8!!!) light tanks available in the game this prem is certainly competitive.  I can't think of any of them that have an easy time against tier X meds, but then the trick in these tanks has always been to choose the targets you engage & avoid the ones you can't.  Surely anyone playing tier 8 light tanks should already be aware of this? Oh wait, did the OP buy a tier 8 without any experience of playing that class at that tier & now thinks the tank needs buffed because he's struggling with the playstyle?  Probably a good time to point out all the 0k players playing tier 8 prems & suggest they they all need some rebalancing? :trollface:



Eila_Juutilainen #7 Posted 12 April 2016 - 02:40 PM

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View PostRustyGrayWOLF, on 12 April 2016 - 12:59 PM, said:

It's matchmaking is 9,10,11. Considering there is no tier 11, that would mean 2/3 games you get tier 10. Tier 10 is also more popular than tier 9, which only ups the chance of getting into tier 10. It's standard T8 LT matchmaking, deal with it.

 

There is tier 11 as far as MM is concerned. It's basically more tier 10 and 9 tanks with no tier 8 tanks (except scouts). There used to be a tier 12 as well, battles full of tier 10 tanks (and scouts).

VojvodaZivojin #8 Posted 12 April 2016 - 04:26 PM

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This tank need just a little flexible MM, not pref MM, i did not say that.

OK, this is spotter, but also prem tank. What is the point to spot all time every game?

 

It is very hard to play vs tier 10 meds and lights. That is the fact.

So, a little, just a little more flexible MM, will be fine.



spamhamstar #9 Posted 12 April 2016 - 05:10 PM

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View PostVojvodaZivojin, on 12 April 2016 - 03:26 PM, said:

This tank need just a little flexible MM, not pref MM, i did not say that.

OK, this is spotter, but also prem tank. What is the point to spot all time every game?

 

It is very hard to play vs tier 10 meds and lights. That is the fact.

So, a little, just a little more flexible MM, will be fine.

 

I'm only assuming that you were aware of light tank mm before you bought this tank, if so you were surely aware you would mainly face other tier 8 scouts or tier 9/10 tanks (again, there are no tier 10 lights). 

 

The question is not if this tank should get better mm or not , it is if all light tanks should.  This tank is comparable with all other tier 8 light tanks http://tanks.gg/wot/....c:t49.c:wz-132 and needs no better/flexible(?) mm than they receive. This is the fact.

 

Why always play as spotter? because you have purchased a light tank.  Also, you do not only earn credits or xp based on damage done so the fact it is a light tank premium has nothing to do with it's mm so long as it is possible to earn these.  It is.  Please also note, this tank is capable of damaging every tank in the game, however it's main advantages are it's view range & mobility.  Even I have managed both a positive dmg & destruction ratio in this tank, neither of which include spotting dmg. 

 

If you refuse to play to a tanks strengths you can hardly complain that it's not competitive. 



VojvodaZivojin #10 Posted 12 April 2016 - 05:22 PM

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@ spamhamstar

 

You are in WG stuff?

Thank you for the official response.

 

P.S.

Also, i see, at every tread you giving negative responses. I checked your messages on forum. Almost every your response is negative.

I'm not going to say that you are some kinde of smart-[edited], party braker, spamer .... i know, you just want best for us.

I know it's hard to help someone, But try spamhamstar.

You'll make it.

 

 

So, if somebody of WG stuff read this, a little, just a little more flexible MM for this tank, will be fine.

 


Edited by VojvodaZivojin, 12 April 2016 - 05:24 PM.


spamhamstar #11 Posted 12 April 2016 - 06:44 PM

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View PostVojvodaZivojin, on 12 April 2016 - 04:22 PM, said:

@ spamhamstar

 

You are in WG stuff?

Thank you for the official response.

 

P.S.

Also, i see, at every tread you giving negative responses. I checked your messages on forum. Almost every your response is negative.

I'm not going to say that you are some kinde of smart-[edited], party braker, spamer .... i know, you just want best for us.

I know it's hard to help someone, But try spamhamstar.

You'll make it.

 

 

So, if somebody of WG stuff read this, a little, just a little more flexible MM for this tank, will be fine.

 

 

Are you suggesting that i'm WG staff or that you were expecting an official response from WG staff?

 

Perhaps you should read a few more posts on the forum & see how many suggesting rebalancing of tanks got an official response?

 

Perhaps you should also recheck every thread i've made as i've only made 1 & it was not negative?

 

Also my responses both in this thread & on every other thread i've commented on have been honest & based on a knowledge of the game unlike your post crying about a tank that is perfectly balanced as a tier 8 light tank.  if you bothered to check the link in my last post you'll see I provided evidence to show you how this tank is balanced.  That's being helpful, you crying about mm however is not.  But feel free to cry about me instead now.

 

Maybe you should also check some of your own comments like the 1 where you say all mods are allowed especially aimbot. If you can't do dmg in this tank even though you admit you're cheating perhaps it's you that's the problem not the tank?  http://forum.worldof...6#entry12386906

 

Bye

 



Laatikkomafia #12 Posted 12 April 2016 - 07:49 PM

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The regular M41 Bulldog gets T10 battles with a 76mm gun.

LTs will sometimes get a rough MM, but being able to outplay higher tier MTs/TDs/HTs is one of the fun parts of LTs.

Besides, T8 LTs will always be the top tier of LTs, unlike T37 for example, that will quite often face T8 LTs..

Edited by Laatikkomafia, 12 April 2016 - 07:50 PM.


anonym_kUQyj0XwjEe2 #13 Posted 12 April 2016 - 07:59 PM

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Just a couple of things this is a game but match making isn't always balanced however the tanks in WOT fill roles like they do in the real world in which light tanks perform reconnaissance / scouting duties. Also I remember when I first started WOTs that having a Chaffee put you in tier 10 battles as a scout. I think the M41 90 has great potential and will be a lot of fun to play aside from the shite camo however it is a scout not a med or a heavy. If you thought you would be brawling T10s or IS7s then your battle contribution would be very short. Can I ask did you have the T7 M41 as this would have given you an insight and saved you 20 quid.

Remo__Marti #14 Posted 12 April 2016 - 08:17 PM

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the point of t8 scout is to go in t10 battles...
If u wanted tank with more flexible MM u needed to buy some of standard premium tanks like t34/lowe...or special MM tanks like FCM/is6...but they r mostly 50€ not 25€

there is not a single problem in that tank it is problem in players because they do not know basic stuff...they r just like...look 25€ premium t8 tank...and when they buy it they just whine about MM and stuff



VojvodaZivojin #15 Posted 13 April 2016 - 09:44 AM

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Tnx boys.

I'm really grateful to you for your answers.

I will try to play better, but i still think that just a little more flexible MM, will be fine.

 

Tnx all and gl.



brisha #16 Posted 18 April 2016 - 07:11 PM

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I have found it to be an even spread over T9, 10 and 11, exactly as expected, I am finding it tough going just now, with no skills yet it gets spotted way to easy in places I would not expect to get spotted, cue loads of premature deaths.

Codis172 #17 Posted 28 October 2016 - 11:34 PM

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Decent tank, have a good crew. C**P mm! Very bad WR in nearly 100 battles, doing what a light should be doing, occasional spotting, dealing damage. Butchered teammates make this thing very hard to play and very unrewarding to play, seems like I wasted €€€. I thought by not playing it for a while would see some changes with the teams, NONE. I am a decent player with lights but by far this is the worst I've played in.

 

The MM is a TOTAL dissapointment, take away the lights from both sets of teams and there is still no difference, losing 15-7 or 15-4. It's normal for this. It's not the tank that bothers me, it's the mm.


Edited by Codis172, 28 October 2016 - 11:50 PM.


tnk_x5000 #18 Posted 04 November 2016 - 09:29 AM

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I am still wondering why you are complaining about the MM of a tier 8 light tank, since that is not your first light tank. By now you should have noticed how scout-tagged light tanks (A-20 and Crusader are treated normally, they are not scout-tagged) are treated as +1 tier: tier 4 are treated as tier 5, 5 as 6, 6 as 7, 7 as 8 and 8 as 9. Why not complain about the Type 64? It has it worse - average at best penetration and sees +3 tier tanks.

 

Also, new premiums will no longer get preferential MM, don't get your hopes up. Also, don't complain, any damage on higher tier tanks comes with bonuses, so potentially you have one of the best credit and XP makers.



tumppi776 #19 Posted 10 November 2016 - 06:54 AM

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its not the mm tiers - its the teams that are the proble TBH... oh boy they have sucked




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