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Moomiss #1 Posted 05 May 2016 - 05:18 PM

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Ive had to change my Forum avatar as my old one is deemed offensive Apparently. 

"Your avatar is against our rules for avatars, images and signatures described in paragraph 3.4 of forum rules:
http://forum.worldof...24-forum-rules/

IT represents Imperial Japanese Navy flag  aka Rising sun flag, under which Imperial landing and expeditionary forces made many war crimes and atrocities. Therefore it is recognized as offensive in many Asiatic countries, especially Korea.

Please remove avatar on your own and replace it with something more suitable. If you fail to do so within 2 days we will be forced to do it on our own. However you will receive official sanctions and warning in that case."

 

http://s32.postimg.o...countryball.jpg do not look at this link if you are from Korea and find it Offensive idk why you would even be on the English speaking forums....

 

My avatar simply does not feel the same anymore :( 


Edited by Moomiss, 05 May 2016 - 05:21 PM.


Dis4ster #2 Posted 05 May 2016 - 05:38 PM

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Just place some boobs in there, nobody has something against boobs....feminazis do not count.

Moomiss #3 Posted 05 May 2016 - 05:44 PM

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View PostDis4ster, on 05 May 2016 - 04:38 PM, said:

Just place some boobs in there, nobody has something against boobs....feminazis do not count.

 

Cant 3.4 of the rules 
  • which have an association with sexuality, pedophilia, sexual abuse; or have an offensive connection to the human body or bodily functions.


Moomiss #4 Posted 05 May 2016 - 05:46 PM

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Mine probly falls under the Catogry of 
  • which have (in any way) racist or nationalistic implications which may create offense to a certain nation, ethnic, religious or racial group.

Because japan killed people horribly but that also sums up the British empire so better not use the British flag



Moomiss #5 Posted 05 May 2016 - 05:50 PM

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To Be honest if you followed what it says under 3.4 and the reasons for why i cant use my Empire of Japan flag to 100% no one could post anything on the forums at all as stuff is going to be offensive to someone what im saying is Our avatars should all be Gender Neutral Blobs with no colour so cut out your eyes guys

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rsanders5 #6 Posted 06 May 2016 - 01:58 AM

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 While I wouldn't deliberately try to offend someone, I do feel that we often go to far

along the route of  ' You can't do that as it MIGHT upset someone somewhere on

the planet' Maybe it's time people the world over grew up & started to work together,

rather than pointing fingers & crying like spoilt brats over an imagined insult!



Moomiss #7 Posted 06 May 2016 - 06:43 AM

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View Postrsanders5, on 06 May 2016 - 12:58 AM, said:

 While I wouldn't deliberately try to offend someone, I do feel that we often go to far

along the route of  ' You can't do that as it MIGHT upset someone somewhere on

the planet' Maybe it's time people the world over grew up & started to work together,

rather than pointing fingers & crying like spoilt brats over an imagined insult!

 

I Agree Completely the thing that upset me the most was the reason for it "Therefore it is recognized as offensive in many Asiatic countries, especially Korea.
" This is the English speaking forums. and i spent a lot of time making my country ball for historical accuracy now its ruined.

Nishi_Kinuyo #8 Posted 06 May 2016 - 10:32 AM

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Just wondering, but isn't that flag still in use by the Japanese Maritime Self-Defence Force?

And if so, I think it is an unfair decision by the moderator.



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[edited]

 


Edited by BigBadVuk, 09 May 2016 - 04:46 PM.
This post has been edited by a member of the Moderation Team, due to inappropriate content.


rsanders5 #10 Posted 06 May 2016 - 11:22 AM

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The Japanese Naval Ensign is a red disc with 16 rays coming from it. the disc being offset towards the hoist end of the flag, the Naval Jack is a red disc on a white background

The ensign is the same as the one used during WW2, & is linked to Japans war crimes because of this. As the white ensign has been in use since 1707, & the sole ensign of

Royal Navy since 1864. The Union Flag has been used at sea since 1607 & on land since 1707. The current style of the Union Flag has been in use since the addition of

Ireland to the union of England & Scotland in 1801, Wales became incorporated into England under the Statute of Rhuddlan in 1284, after it had been annexed by Edward I

of England in 1282. In the Laws in Wales Acts 1535–1542, Wales became legally part of the Kingdom of England. Makes you wonder why the fuss over a flag that has been

in use since 1870. The current flag for Japan being a red disc on white background being introduced then.



Moomiss #11 Posted 06 May 2016 - 11:36 AM

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View PostOnisuzume, on 06 May 2016 - 09:32 AM, said:

Just wondering, but isn't that flag still in use by the Japanese Maritime Self-Defence Force?

And if so, I think it is an unfair decision by the moderator.

 

Yes it is so why cant i use it as this is a PolandBall not a flag http://s32.postimg.o...countryball.jpg why do the stripes have to be such a big deal

Edited by Moomiss, 06 May 2016 - 11:38 AM.


Celandri #12 Posted 06 May 2016 - 11:41 AM

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actualy if you have a Japanese maritme SDF ship going to any harbour outside Japan they need to change the flag before docking, 

Korea and Kina have given warning that if they dont change the flag before getting close to land they will attack the ship



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View PostOnisuzume, on 06 May 2016 - 09:32 AM, said:

Just wondering, but isn't that flag still in use by the Japanese Maritime Self-Defence Force?

And if so, I think it is an unfair decision by the moderator.

 

These seem to be the currently used flag's

 

 

 

 

 


Edited by rustysprite, 06 May 2016 - 11:49 AM.


Moomiss #14 Posted 06 May 2016 - 12:36 PM

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View Postrustysprite, on 06 May 2016 - 10:45 AM, said:

 

These seem to be the currently used flag's

 

 

 

 

 

so why cant i use this http://s32.postimg.o...countryball.jpg



Celandri #15 Posted 06 May 2016 - 01:03 PM

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because those 2 flags are frowned upon in Asia still.

and if wargaming want money from china and korea /hongkong/and so on well then they need to listen to those countries. 1 country vs 40 = 1 country loose. thats how war is and how money weights.



250swb #16 Posted 06 May 2016 - 07:37 PM

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Basically it is about as tactful as using a swastika claiming it is an ancient symbol, which it is, in an ancient context. The 'rising sun' is also an ancient symbol, but like the swastika it was usurped as a battle and political flag, so judgement is required as to how to use it. And only the individual can say if they want to go with 'but it's not fair' or appreciate the context within a game that represents historical Japanese tanks and the conduct of the Japanese military in WWII.


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Moomiss #17 Posted 06 May 2016 - 09:19 PM

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what if i painted it in a reddish orange could i say its unrelated to the flag

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View PostMoomiss, on 06 May 2016 - 09:19 PM, said:

what if i painted it in a reddish orange could i say its unrelated to the flag

 

No because you've just told moderators that you intend to change the appearance of the flag to get around the issue. But clearly you are reluctant to change the meaning of your avatar even if it was another colour, and if you hadn't fully picked up on it, it is the meaning that you got moderated for.


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Moomiss #19 Posted 07 May 2016 - 10:34 AM

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View Post250swb, on 06 May 2016 - 10:08 PM, said:

 

No because you've just told moderators that you intend to change the appearance of the flag to get around the issue. But clearly you are reluctant to change the meaning of your avatar even if it was another colour, and if you hadn't fully picked up on it, it is the meaning that you got moderated for.

as soon as i removed the sun lines from the flag the moderator said it was fine



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View Post250swb, on 06 May 2016 - 06:37 PM, said:

Basically it is about as tactful as using a swastika claiming it is an ancient symbol, which it is, in an ancient context. The 'rising sun' is also an ancient symbol, but like the swastika it was usurped as a battle and political flag, so judgement is required as to how to use it. And only the individual can say if they want to go with 'but it's not fair' or appreciate the context within a game that represents historical Japanese tanks and the conduct of the Japanese military in WWII.

Asia would like a chat with you, where the the swastiska is still quite much in use.

Even Jainism, the religion of peace, has it as one of their primary symbols, and on their flag.

 

So imo, there isn't much wrong with showing that Japanese flag.

Arguement is made that it is offensive in Korea, but then again, their Unification Church is quite similar, also incorporating a rising sun motif.

And what about the various other, similar flags? Such as the flag of Tibet and Macedonia. Or the one the russian air force is using. Or the flag of the Donetsk Oblast.






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