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Muishond11 #21 Posted 20 May 2016 - 07:05 AM

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The tank is fine as it is though I don't enjoy playing mine as the gun trolls me all the time with crazy misses.

Excavatus #22 Posted 20 May 2016 - 07:32 AM

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I suck in FCM most of the times..

But buffing that tank would be one of the greatest mistakes..

 

Because When I Dont suck in 1 of every 5 games..

that tank is a monster..

With the gold ammo cost.. and accuracy..

If I can find a good place to support.. I will have a field day..

 

I even can go 1 on 1 with a T34.. or T32.. if the driver is not a VERY decent one..

 

You have high mobility like a medium.. but you spawn on heavy point.. 

for example in mines.. that means I will be on the hill no matter what..

700 hp lights will craptheirselves when they see a FCM on the hill..

 

 



Obsessive_Compulsive #23 Posted 20 May 2016 - 08:11 AM

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View PostSlyspy, on 20 May 2016 - 01:13 AM, said:

 

Why not? All the other tier eights are exactly that.

 

I am not suprised you feel that way.

Deco01 #24 Posted 20 May 2016 - 08:36 AM

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Must be nurf!

Fluffy_The_Destroyer #25 Posted 20 May 2016 - 08:38 AM

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Go play M4 Rev and then go complain the 50t has no place in current meta. at least 50T gets preff with 200+pen gun AP standard and plays like a medium.

gpalsson #26 Posted 20 May 2016 - 08:43 AM

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Yes, please buff.
FCM is terrible. Buff plix. And also buff patton KR while you are at it WG.

Thanks

MacFergus #27 Posted 20 May 2016 - 08:47 AM

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vBAddict states the FCM out of 10000 battles played has an overhaul rating of 6th best heavy tank at tier 8 its 2nd in WR , Its 2nd best dpm tank with the best penetration stats it also earns the most creds and xp .......

 

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In a nutshell its the best premier heavy tank just pipping the IS-6 and KV5.



Radu_Korne #28 Posted 20 May 2016 - 09:00 AM

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and buff Mutz and IS-3A too pls NAUUUUUUU WG

Pansenmann #29 Posted 20 May 2016 - 09:01 AM

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@ OP

 

This tank got the DCA 45 gun.

It is not the best gun in terms of accuracy and aim time.

It does have reasonably high penetration with standard AP though.

There are other french tanks wich can mount the same gun and they all suffer from this diva.

WG will most likely not change it.

That's why there is the AMX M4 Mle. 49 probably the FCM replacement.

Spoiler

 

 


Edited by Pansenmann, 20 May 2016 - 09:07 AM.


tajj7 #30 Posted 20 May 2016 - 09:14 AM

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OP go compare the Panther 2 to the FCM50T.

 

You will then realise the FCM 50T is basically better than the Panther 2 in every way.

 

Then realise the Panther 2 sees tier 10 and the FCM doesn't.

 

And finally you will realise why your request is quite stupid.

 

 



XRey360 #31 Posted 20 May 2016 - 09:22 AM

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Isn't it funny when people request already average premiums to be buffed when there are way worse ones forgotten which would really make use of a buff?

neobrm #32 Posted 20 May 2016 - 10:23 AM

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I thought i would get a lot of crapfor this, but I'm glad there are people that share my opinion. I'm gonna ignore all of you who are not playing this tank because your opinion is irrelevant. I need feedback from FCM drivers that do good in it.

I run my FCM with rammer, vert stab and vents, also i have an almost 6 skills crew, so it cannot be better than it is now. And i know how to play that tank.

That being said, it is really hard to carry games, which you have to do with recent meta with 2-3k tomato players in high tiers. You frequently get games which you and an AMX 50 100 are the only heavies in your team, and platter of IS3, IS6 and T34 are on the other, and you cant really win them if they aren't complete morons. Someone said FCM has viewrange and can snipe? Viewrange doesn't matter in this game no more, and FCM cant really snipe, you hit/pen 1 of maybe 5-6 shots due to global accuracy nerf.

I know there are premiums which are worse than FCM, I know FCM can sometimes be a monster, I'm just proposing slight aiming buffs to the gun so it can hit week points more reliably with it's miserable 240 average dmg. I'm not asking for armour, not asking for more dmg or dpm, just a smaller reticle so it can be more competitive.

View PostExcavatus, on 20 May 2016 - 06:32 AM, said:

 

I even can go 1 on 1 with a T34.. or T32.. if the driver is not a VERY decent one..

 

 

This is not a problem, FCM being a dpm monster it can handle 1vs1 very easily with any tier 8, most struggling with the IS6, but it can do well. But you really don't have those 1vs1 fights anymore, do you?

 

View PostMacFergus, on 20 May 2016 - 07:47 AM, said:

vBAddict states the FCM out of 10000 battles played has an overhaul rating of 6th best heavy tank at tier 8 its 2nd in WR , Its 2nd best dpm tank with the best penetration stats it also earns the most creds and xp .......

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In a nutshell its the best premier heavy tank just pipping the IS-6 and KV5.

 

That's because you don't see much FCM drivers with bad stats, do you? It's a hard tank to do well, pubbies don't like challenges like that.

 

View PostMuishond11, on 20 May 2016 - 06:05 AM, said:

The tank is fine as it is though I don't enjoy playing mine as the gun trolls me all the time with crazy misses.

 

I also think it's fine, but as you said, those misses lose you the game.



neobrm #33 Posted 20 May 2016 - 10:38 AM

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View PostLegioCenturion, on 20 May 2016 - 12:42 AM, said:

As with every other tier VIII in the game - premium or not - the FCM got devalued with the introduction of the IS-3A and with the IS-3 and IS-6 buffs. 212 no longer reliably pens the front of these tanks. It's probably still better than any other tier VIII medium but its rating as a heavy and subsequent place in the MM often means the opposite team will have more russian heavies lined-up. Adding to the idiotic nature of most maps and the FCM has seen better days.

 

These maps aren't friendly to any support tanks and the FCM is no exception.

 

This. I was speaking in common tongue so everybody would understand, but you placed your words far better than me. 

Edited by neobrm, 20 May 2016 - 10:40 AM.


Slyspy #34 Posted 20 May 2016 - 10:54 AM

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View Postneobrm, on 20 May 2016 - 10:23 AM, said:

I thought i would get a lot of crapfor this, but I'm glad there are people that share my opinion. 

 

Um, I'm not sure that anyone who replied has shared your opinion.



camels13 #35 Posted 20 May 2016 - 11:01 AM

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i know the armor is not supposed to be good, but i tend to bounce alot, especially shots on my turrest. and i love it.

Cobra6 #36 Posted 20 May 2016 - 11:04 AM

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Uhm....no....

 

If there is any tank that needs a buff it's the CDC to it's ridiculous ground resistance values and it's gun dispersion.

 

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zikkon #37 Posted 20 May 2016 - 11:32 AM

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Imho the t8 premiums with limited MM that scream for a buff are Type 59 (gun handling buff!!!) and KV-5 (standard and APCR pen buffs).

FCM is perfectly fine.



PanzerKFeldherrnhalle #38 Posted 20 May 2016 - 11:44 AM

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Neobrm,

 

The solution isn't buffing the FCM's accuracy (though no harm would come from there) but reverting the IS-3's hull armour back where it was before the buffs. It's okay leaving the roof smaller but reverting the hull armour changes would pull tanks like the FCM, T32 and the Pershing back where they belong. The IS-3 would still be the best (which is fine, every tier has its better tanks) but that would restore the balance to tier VIII, making the German and other nations' heavies and mediums instantly more competitive.

 

Have to say however that I don't understand the shock with the proposition of buffing the FCM's accuracy, as if that is shocking on its own or would break any balance. If the CDC or any other tank could use a similar buff by all means ask it, but what does that have to do with someone calling for a FCM's accuracy buff? It's the same as arguing the tier VIII regular or premiums with 175mm pen guns are completely fine because the KV-5 has 167 ...

 

When threads are opened calling attention for the fact the IS-3 or T110E5 were stupidly buffed far beyond reasonable levels, immediately 20 or 30 monkeys jump around swearing those tanks are fine and that "you should learn how to aim". Someone asks for an FCM accuracy buff and many people react as if that would be ludicrous or a disaster. Sometimes I genuinely don't know what's worse: WG's natural ability to mess their own game or the masochist nature of the player base.

 

 


Edited by LegioCenturion, 20 May 2016 - 11:47 AM.


SirTogII #39 Posted 20 May 2016 - 11:50 AM

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As mentioned, it's not the tank being bad per se, it's the IS3 clones and IS6s you meet on maps where view range is not a factor. A small accuracy buff to 0.32 wouldn't make it OP but give it a better chance to fight from distance which it's supposed to do.
However, there are so many other tanks far more worthy of buffs so don't expect anything soon OP.

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View Posttajj7, on 20 May 2016 - 08:14 AM, said:

OP go compare the Panther 2 to the FCM50T.

 

You will then realise the FCM 50T is basically better than the Panther 2 in every way.

 

Then realise the Panther 2 sees tier 10 and the FCM doesn't.

 

And finally you will realise why your request is quite stupid.

 

 

 

I find that the Panther II is the worst tank tier for tier. FCM might be the best.





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