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Community #1 Posted 24 May 2016 - 03:06 PM

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The platoon system system will experience some changes. Read now to learn all about it.

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Psticide #2 Posted 24 May 2016 - 03:16 PM

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so if i want to play t8 scout for t10 tds or arties in my platoon, we all get punished not getting the extra bonus ...  so a t8 scout ( or any scout for that matter) will always screw his platoonmates due to higher tier matchmaking potential , why do u have to make things so complicated for no reason, just keep it fracking simple by playing platoon = extra 20% xp no matter the tier lvl unless its tier difference is too high, simple  but simplicity is not in wg dictionary ? just look at the wall of text and infographics u guys needed in the news to explain the system  ...

 

thumbs down for this complicated and scout punishing system, nobody wants to platoon with scout at same tier

 

i predict scouts will be bringing their not so smart platoon friends into higher tier games, making randoms even more unbalanced then before for this bonus breaking the game even more then before the bonus, gl to all those t7 people in t10 games ...


Edited by Psticide, 24 May 2016 - 03:28 PM.


J0N4S2 #3 Posted 24 May 2016 - 03:16 PM

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MeanGreen11 #4 Posted 24 May 2016 - 03:22 PM

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So how with this work with vehicles with preferential MM?

 

I don't want to take my E25 with a player who has normal MM on his tank, because that would potentially put me in a +2 tiers match. Normally he would take a tank 1 tier below me, but it hardly seems fair if that means I lose the XP bonus on a premium vehicle.

 

I don't see any info on the page :(



SpRitE166 #5 Posted 24 May 2016 - 03:27 PM

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i dont need bonus XP i need bonus credits  please implement bonuses for credits  and make it soo that we can chose betwen XP boost or credit boost every battle

chowriit #6 Posted 24 May 2016 - 03:28 PM

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  • Effectively penalises players for not platooning
  • No penalty (a bonus, in fact) for the most common fail-platoons (light with normal, pref-MM with normal)
  • Effectively penalises light+normal platoons that don't fail-platoon.
     

Come on, you can do better than this...



GreenViking #7 Posted 24 May 2016 - 03:28 PM

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hmmm so dynamic platoons will not benefit from the exp bonus in the game that the platoon was created.......  not happy with that.... but otherwise ok..

hiXhaX #8 Posted 24 May 2016 - 03:29 PM

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Is it about having the same vehicle tier or the same battle tier?

In other words, will a platoon consisting of a t7 light tank and 2 t8 mediums recieve the XP bonus?



SarcasticSmurf #9 Posted 24 May 2016 - 03:29 PM

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still don't see anything about skill based match-making or that one team totally devoid of mediums can be matched against a team totally devoid of heavies.

uglybear #10 Posted 24 May 2016 - 03:30 PM

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Good overall

bad is that the check should not be if vehicles are same tier

check should be if max battle tier is the same

 

because

T4 Luchs + T4 Pz B2 is not valid platoon that should get bonuses

nor is T8 AMX 13 90 + T8 IS-6

 

but platoon of T8 RU-251 + T9 Conqueror  should get bonus and it will not...

 



Ian526 #11 Posted 24 May 2016 - 03:31 PM

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So tier 7 scout who gets in tier 8-10 games must drive with tier 7 tanks who only gets in tier 7-9 games, just to get xp bonus? Seems that someone in WG have no idea about their own game mechanics.

Bajira #12 Posted 24 May 2016 - 03:31 PM

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So if you platoon with a tier 8 and a tier 5, there is no penalty even when you can get into tier 10 games? nice, so useless.

Procrastinator7 #13 Posted 24 May 2016 - 03:35 PM

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I don't see why platooning should get bonuses. Fail platoons getting penalties I can see, but platooning already makes the game easier - that is if you platoon properly with TeamSpeak/Skype communication on the side. That should be bonus enough I think. The dynamic platoon feature is pretty useless, it might help you get through a mission or land an extra medal sometimes but you don't really play together, it's just for show.

Krzysztof_Chodak #14 Posted 24 May 2016 - 03:37 PM

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View PostIan526, on 24 May 2016 - 03:31 PM, said:

So tier 7 scout who gets in tier 8-10 games must drive with tier 7 tanks who only gets in tier 7-9 games, just to get xp bonus? Seems that someone in WG have no idea about their own game mechanics.

 

Maybe simplest would be to move LTs one tier higher

LTs are scarce to find on the battlefield and this tiers mismatch resulting in no EXP bonus will just make it worse



hiXhaX #15 Posted 24 May 2016 - 03:38 PM

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so to fight fail platoons, WG will add a system that will reward fail platoons like t8 light + t8 med with up to 20% extra XP. GG.

Tanatoy #16 Posted 24 May 2016 - 03:49 PM

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Hi guys,

 

We had a little issue were two topic were created about this subject, it's now solved has they've been merged.

 

Cheers,



SanyaJuutilainen #17 Posted 24 May 2016 - 03:54 PM

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View PostProcrastinator7, on 24 May 2016 - 03:35 PM, said:

I don't see why platooning should get bonuses. Fail platoons getting penalties I can see, but platooning already makes the game easier - that is if you platoon properly with TeamSpeak/Skype communication on the side. That should be bonus enough I think. The dynamic platoon feature is pretty useless, it might help you get through a mission or land an extra medal sometimes but you don't really play together, it's just for show.

 

I do, though - platooning nets less XP and credits per unit of time. No matter when or with whom, if I want to grind, I will grind solo, because it's faster - the increased WR doesn't compensate the waiting times for the other guy when I die first. This is just narrowing the income, really.

VeryRisky #18 Posted 24 May 2016 - 03:59 PM

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View PostTanatoy, on 24 May 2016 - 02:49 PM, said:

Hi guys,

 

We had a little issue were two topic were created about this subject, it's now solved has they've been merged.

 

Cheers,

 

If I am on http://worldoftanks....system-changes/ and then hit "Discuss on Forum" it takes me to http://forum.worldof...ource=news-page which fails.

orgerix #19 Posted 24 May 2016 - 04:00 PM

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View PostProcrastinator7, on 24 May 2016 - 02:35 PM, said:

I don't see why platooning should get bonuses. Fail platoons getting penalties I can see, but platooning already makes the game easier - that is if you platoon properly with TeamSpeak/Skype communication on the side. That should be bonus enough I think. The dynamic platoon feature is pretty useless, it might help you get through a mission or land an extra medal sometimes but you don't really play together, it's just for show.

 

Because WG want to incentive people to platoon, because they have stats which shows that the more a player socialize, the more he is likely to stay.

 

But this implementation is just [edited]. Like I said in another place, WG dev them-self doesn't understand their tiering system:

  1. you have the following failed platoon which get bonus: M41 + panther/M10 => battle T10, rip panther or DW2 + luchs =>battle T7, rip B1
  2. a legit platoon like RU + M53/55 will not get bonus
  3. More controversial, RU + T92 could have the bonus, but does not have strictly the same battle tier. Depends if the implementation only consider max battle tier or min and max battle tier. Both are fine
  4. a platton like DW2 + KV3 are not at all sanctioned. Are you [edited]serious ?
This time I am done. I will never hope anything from this game, and I seriously consider trolling with such platoon, since they are visibly permitted

StinkyStonky #20 Posted 24 May 2016 - 04:03 PM

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 Further on in development we will be moving towards platoons of the same Tiers and will disabling the ability to go into battle within a platoon of vehicles of different Tiers. This will allow us to make necessary improvements to the team matchmaking system. Unlike the already existing one, that forms teams depending on the queue to a battle within the server, the new system will be more focused on the equality of the opposing teams by Tier and type of vehicle. It is planned that the teams will be formed on the principle of 3-5-7: 3 top-Tier tanks for the battle, 5 medium Tier tanks and 7 tanks of the minimum Tier.

Such a matchmaking system will not only solve the problem of balance inequality within opposing teams, but will also affect the gameplay of Random Battles: by encouraging the tanks’ full potential in battle, regardless of its positions in a teams’ list. The new matchmaking will increase the impact of any part of the teams’ list (top, medium or lower Tiers) on the outcome of battle.

 

This is awesome.  If all it does is reduce the amount of wingeing on these forums it will be a success.

 

Good job with the platoon changes, current and planned.

 


Edited by StinkyStonky, 24 May 2016 - 04:04 PM.





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