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NandoB #1 Posted 13 June 2016 - 08:42 PM

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i dont know if they are busy on it,

but are they planing to come up with the latest tanks such as the Leopard 2 tanks like from this time ? or are there other who maked it ?

 

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Nishi_Kinuyo #2 Posted 13 June 2016 - 09:36 PM

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They're not going to add tanks with modern technologies on them such as composite armour, smoothbore cannons, reactive armour, etc.

And tbh, I couldn't care less about post-war tanks.



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View PostNandoB, on 13 June 2016 - 08:42 PM, said:

i dont know if they are busy on it,

but are they planing to come up with the latest tanks such as the Leopard 2 tanks like from this time ? or are there other who maked it ?

 

Grz

Nando

 

They won't do that. Because, for example: how would you even pen M1 Abrams turret ? 

UrQuan #4 Posted 13 June 2016 - 11:20 PM

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If you really want to play with modern tanks, you could try Armored Warfare. It begins where the WoT tech tree ends & offers a variety of modern tanks & associated armored vehicles.

datester #5 Posted 14 June 2016 - 11:14 AM

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View PostOnisuzume, on 13 June 2016 - 08:36 PM, said:

They're not going to add tanks with modern technologies on them such as composite armour, smoothbore cannons, reactive armour, etc.

And tbh, I couldn't care less about post-war tanks.

 

There isnt anything special to model about composite armour. It just gives better protection for its thickness.

We already have plenty smoothbores in the game.

Reactive armour is intended to counter missiles, wich we dont have in the game; and therefor not relevant, imho.

 

View Postxsolimini_, on 13 June 2016 - 08:41 PM, said:

 

They won't do that. Because, for example: how would you even pen M1 Abrams turret ? 

 

How would you pen a TigerII turret with a 1939 AT gun?

 

I think the biggest issue would be with accuracy. Modern tanks have modern firecontrol: they can hit really small, moving targets from a really long way off. 

Everybody has a smart aimbot. Where's the fun in that?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 



MR_FIAT #6 Posted 14 June 2016 - 11:24 AM

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want modern tanks? play AW or wait for WoT2.0

Nishi_Kinuyo #7 Posted 14 June 2016 - 05:25 PM

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datester

There isnt anything special to model about composite armour. It just gives better protection for its thickness.

Yes, the equivalent to a 350mm of homogenous steel vs kinetic penetrators and twice that against shaped charges.

There's barely any tank in the game even capable of overcoming that (just some tier 10 TDs firing premium APCR, afaik).

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 We already have plenty smoothbores in the game.

 Could you give me some examples then?

Because last time I checked, the rashan T-62 (not T-62A!) was the first tank to use a smoothbore and is not in the game.



datester #8 Posted 15 June 2016 - 02:11 PM

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The T62 is the first widely used real tank that uses a smoothbore.

But WOT is full of prototypes etc. like the AMX 50 120, T95 and T49 to name a few.

 

Besides, I dont see a problem with having smoothbores. We already have HEAT ammo. Pen isnt much different when fired from a rifled or a smooth bore.

 

A tier-X gun is better than a tier-IX. So I'd expect a smoothbore tier-XI or tier-XII to be better still. Its a game. Stuff can be more balanced than irl.  

 

 



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 But WOT is full of prototypes etc. like the AMX 50 120, T95 and T49 to name a few.

 The T49's 152mm Gun/Launcher is rifled...

The AMX-50-120's 120mm SA46 is rifled...

The T95's 155mm is rifled...

 

So please, do check your sources.


Edited by Onisuzume, 15 June 2016 - 05:26 PM.


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View Postxsolimini_, on 13 June 2016 - 08:41 PM, said:

 

They won't do that. Because, for example: how would you even pen M1 Abrams turret ?

 

Challenger 2

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View PostNandoB, on 13 June 2016 - 07:42 PM, said:

i dont know if they are busy on it,

but are they planing to come up with the latest tanks such as the Leopard 2 tanks like from this time ? or are there other who maked it ?

 

Grz

Nando

 

Armoured warfare is based on modern tanks,


 



Xino9922 #12 Posted 16 June 2016 - 09:07 AM

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View Postrsanders5, on 15 June 2016 - 06:20 PM, said:

 

Challenger 2

 

Perhaps, with an APFSDS with tungsten-penetrator... 

 

Still fairly questionable whether it would be able to or not. My money would more be on the far more modern smoothbore Rheinmetall 120mm L/55 gun (leopard 2A6 + other variants as well)



damonstr #13 Posted 16 June 2016 - 05:49 PM

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"Reactive armour is intended to counter missiles"

 

not really, more like HEAT ammunition (that includes most AT missiles, of course). Although the Russians claim their latest version of ERA can even protect against kinetic penetrators. 

Just including upgraded versions of tanks like the Centurion or Patton would break the game. Things like modern ammunition and fire control systems would make those machines completely overpowered. They would have to be completely separated from the rest of the matchmaker, and I don't think WG would like that idea. 

 

 



datester #14 Posted 17 June 2016 - 12:34 PM

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View PostOnisuzume, on 15 June 2016 - 04:25 PM, said:

 The T49's 152mm Gun/Launcher is rifled...

The AMX-50-120's 120mm SA46 is rifled...

The T95's 155mm is rifled...

 

So please, do check your sources.

 

Technically T49 and T95 are semi-rifled. They only have a very low spin, to arm the shot. The shot isnt spin stabilized, but fin, like shot from true smoothbores.

 

The AMX50 also fires finstabilzed ammo. But I guess they used the same trick as with the AMX30, firing APFSDS from a rifled gun. My bad.

 

 

 

 



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View Postdatester, on 17 June 2016 - 12:34 PM, said:

 

Technically T49 and T95 are semi-rifled. They only have a very low spin, to arm the shot. The shot isnt spin stabilized, but fin, like shot from true smoothbores.

 

The AMX50 also fires finstabilzed ammo. But I guess they used the same trick as with the AMX30, firing APFSDS from a rifled gun. My bad.

 

 

 

Where exactly are the stabilisation fins?

 

*EDIT* and before you link the the Shillelagh missile, that was deliberately prevented from being spun by using a "key" that rode in a trough in the rifling, coupled with no driving band


Edited by Cthell, 19 June 2016 - 03:19 PM.


datester #16 Posted 20 June 2016 - 11:56 PM

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Thats the ammo for the XM81, on the Sheridan.

 

The T49 had a 90mm gun, the T132E3. It fired T108E40 HEAT, T142E8 HEP, T91 HE and T92 WP.

The T95 had a 105mm gun, that fired T298 HEAT among others.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 






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