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Dark_Cloud #1 Posted 16 July 2016 - 08:26 AM

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So I've found a T-54 ltwt. No not in my garage but in the killed by.

I'm a little late for the party, I know, but... This is a joke that won't get old for a while even from this point on. I'm not saying I can't kill it but underestimation & arrogance got the best of me.

Tier 8 light.

100mm gun.

175 AVERAGE AP pen.

250 AVERAGE AP dmg.

Tier 8 light tank. LIGHT TANK.

I won't even touch the mobility. Just let what I just typed sink in for a while.

Wargaming... u wot? :trollface::trollface::trollface:

 

P.S. light tank my hairy ***.


Edited by Dark_Cloud, 16 July 2016 - 08:27 AM.


General_McMuschi #2 Posted 16 July 2016 - 09:49 AM

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I don't understand your point. 

Adrian1 #3 Posted 16 July 2016 - 10:38 AM

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 RU 251 has 190 pen and 5 sec rled when fully equipped and with BiA (not including vents because you need optics duh) 250 dmg or 240 If I can remember clearly, mobility is better than T-54 light to give you a comparison. Though still 175 pen and 190 is poor for Tier 9 and 10 matchmaking, so I don't see your point. Many unicums have gold ammo setups in these thanks to be competitive, for example I carry 25 HEAT 15 AP and 1 HE in my Ru.


Edited by Adrian1, 16 July 2016 - 10:39 AM.


Eokokok #4 Posted 16 July 2016 - 11:17 AM

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A noob seems to not understand what MM is...

Dark_Cloud #5 Posted 16 July 2016 - 09:13 PM

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Point is I'm complaining how I'm bad and fail to understand why is the HEAT-MiniFour classified as a light tank lol

General_McMuschi #6 Posted 17 July 2016 - 04:55 AM

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View PostDark_Cloud, on 16 July 2016 - 09:13 PM, said:

Point is I'm complaining how I'm bad and fail to understand why is the HEAT-MiniFour classified as a light tank lol

 

 

If it was a medium, it would be OP for its tier. It's a scout so it gets t10 battles all the time and I think this is what balances it.

So - when compared to other t8 meds, yeah it's better. But you can't compare t8 scout with t8 medium because of the mm.

 

I have a lightweight and I never even had a t9 battle for now, only t10. I don't enjoy playing it at all. I get clipped by autoloaders, or I get one shot by arty or TDs with big guns, outDPMed by mediums, or rammed. I don't have the view range advantage. The camo on it isn't that good. It has armor but I can't rely on it. Even when I fight t7 or t8 lights, they all shot gold. And the gun accuracy is also not the best, gun handling could deffinitely be better. And the mobility is often not good enough to dodge shells or pull back - LTTB is so much better at doing that, ltwt doesn't accelerate fast enough. And it's expensive to drive because of the poor pen.

 

Long time ago I wanted a ltwt because I was naive and watched a Jingles review of it and it seemed like it's the right tank for me. I wanted to skip MT25 and LTTB but I couldn't afford it so I had to grind them. When I finally got ltwt, I realized grinding towards it was so much more fun than actually playing it. MT25 and LTTB are much more fun.

 

I'm not saying ltwt is crap. A great player can make this tank into a beast. But I'm not a great player and for me it just brings stress and frustration. It's not that I don't know how to play a scout, I do. But so does everyone else in t10 battle - people predict my move, they blindshot my magical bushes, and I can't play it as a scout at all. I play it like a poor medium that has to fire gold most of the time. I feel mostly useless in it. And if I could, I would trade my ltwt for ru251. 


Edited by General_McMuschi, 17 July 2016 - 05:34 AM.


Eokokok #7 Posted 17 July 2016 - 09:18 PM

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View PostDark_Cloud, on 16 July 2016 - 08:13 PM, said:

Point is I'm complaining how I'm bad and fail to understand why is the HEAT-MiniFour classified as a light tank lol

 

MM, you should try to learn how it works. Compare LW to tier 9 mediums, see how powerfull it is...

PointZero #8 Posted 17 July 2016 - 10:03 PM

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Each time I take mine out for a spin I can't help thinking "why am I not sitting in the regular T-54 right now?" more health, better armor, better pen, more alpha, same MM, same viewrange and similar playstyle. Since it has almost the same RoF as the regular T-54 it really feels like you are driving around in a nerfed version of the T9 medium. It's not particularly good at scouting, plays like a flanking medium and only really shines in bullying lower tier scouts that you can do plenty in other tanks like the T49 for example.

 

175mm AP pen isn't enought to deal with tier 9 & 10 tanks that are aware of your presence (or have heavy armor and are slightly angled) so you have to rely on your 235mm pen prem rounds while you carry a total of 34 rounds. Or you could be rolling in the HEAT-54 with 201-219mm standard AP pen and 330mm on prem rounds carrying 50 of them. Sure it has some armor compared to other scouts but T9&T10 opponents will still butter through it unless you happen to get a lucky bounce from the turret.

 

All the following tier VIII LT's have 1100-1250 health and here's how they perform

T-54 ltwt            175mm pen 250 dmg 8.34 rounds/min

Amx 13 90         170mm pen 240 dmg 6.68 rounds/min (6 shot autoloader, 2,73s delay between shots)

RU251               190mm pen 240 dmg 10.09 rounds/min

quote from the wiki "premium tanks fall somewhere between stock and fully upgraded vehicles of their tier."

M41 GF             182mm pen 240 dmg 9.48 rounds/min

 


Edited by PointZero, 17 July 2016 - 10:09 PM.





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