M46 Patton
Charcharo
28 Sep 2011
Hello and welcome to the M46 Patton, the tier 9 US medium tank. Developed in 1948 and 1949, the M46 Patton was a modernized and improved version of the M26 Pershing.
Previous tank: M26 Pershing
http://forum.worldof...7-m26-pershing/
Next tank: M48 Patton
Tank specs:
http://img820.images...0/4222/m46e.jpg
Upgrade tree:
Overview:
A just bought, stock Patton is one of the most disheartening grinds in the entire game. The 90mm gun is quite useless in tier 9 and 10 battles, the engine is relatively underpowered. Until the upgraded suspension, the M46 is more like a T9 T20 and almost no amount of skill can help it.
The upgraded machine is a very capable medium tank. It acts a lot like a T9 version of the Pershing. Unfortunately, the armour that was decent at Tier 8 is nearly useless at tier 9. Only the turret can bounce shots, and is still not all that tough for its tier thanks to the overmatch rules and the fact that the gun mantlet doesn't cover a large part of it. Still, thanks to the frontally mounted turret and insane angles that can be achieved during the usual peeking behind cover, it might still bounce a high powered shot. Just never count on it.
Mobility is quite good. The relatively low top speed is somewhat compensated thanks to the great agility, pivot turn ability and good acceleration. In a sense, this mobility and agility is the vehicle's true protection. The tank is quite capable of circling most heavy tanks and TDs, provided there is some space and the Patton can take care of its prey alone.
The firepower demonstrated by the Patton is worthy of respect. The high RoF and high damage per shot can shred most vehicles in the game quickly. Penetration is decent enough, capable of going through high end tank weakspots, even though its gold round penetration is for some reason relatively low.
With all this said, what sets the M46 apart is not the gun, nor the agility. Things like the incredible gun depression, allowing it to fire over obstacles and use hills in ways few vehicles can, the supreme view range which allows allied TDs and artillery units to pound the enemy over great distances, the good maneuverability on soft ground and extreme accuracy on the move. These advantages are what makes the Patton powerful. Utilizing all of these can turn the Patton into a great "guerrilla" fighter, a decent support unit, a heavy tank hunter or even a scout.
Price: 2 980 000
Camouflage: Good
Gun Elevation: -10°/+22°
Pros:
- Great gun depression.
- Outstanding view range and radio range.
- Great accuracy on the move.
- Outstanding DPM.
- Agile and can pivot turn.
Cons:
- Almost unarmored.
- Low top speed.
- Could have had better accuracy when standing still.
- Horrible when stock.
Designation:
1.Warrior 2. Medium Support Tank 3. Spotter 4. Flanker
Generally, the Patton is kinda dependent on the equipment one wants to mount on it.
Direct Engagement M46 Patton: Ramer; Vertical Stabilizer; Ventilation
Scouting Medium M46 Patton: Coated Optics; Binocular Telescope; Ventilation/ Camouflage Net
Crew:
1. Commander
2. Gunner
3. Driver
4. Radioman
5. Loader
Crew skills (only an example, up to 4th skill):
Modules:
Hull:
Armor scheme currently in use:
The frontal armor is 102mm sloped which gives the Patton an effective armor of around 132 mm. This means that you can bounce 75L70 and 88L56 rounds very often and even D10T can bounce, provided you slope yourself. The front mounted turret and low hull silhouette allow you to achieve insane angles during peek a boo fight. Although this amount of armor was decent at tier 8, its poor at tier 9. You are probably going to get penetrated all the time no matter what you do.
Suspension:
M46T80E1 / Max.capacity 41.2 / Turn speed 36 deg per sec.
M46T81 / Max.capacity 45.05 / Turn speed 38 deg per sec.
The best suspension seems to not only affect your turn rate, it also has better ground clearance and makes accuracy on the move a little better. You need it first, in order to mount the other stuff and save your sanity by changing the 9cm M3 to the long 90mm gun.
Engine:
Ford GAN / 560 horse power / 20% chance of fire
Continental AV-1790-1 / 704 horse power / 20% chance of fire
AV-1790-5A / 820 horse power / 20% chance of fire
Stock engine is made of fail and makes you act like a heavy. At least use the second one from the Pershing. Best engine is quite good and I suggest taking it after the gun.
Radio:
SCR 508 – range 395 meters
SCR 528 - 745 meters
Best radio is EPIC. The stock one, on the other hand is simply bad. Upgrade when you can, it can be used on many other US tanks.
Turrets:
M46M71
Armor: 102/76/76
Rotation: 38 degrees/second
View range: 402m
M46M67
Armor: 114/76/76
Rotation: 39 degrees/second
View range: 420m
The stock turret is not all that good as it limits one of your advantages- view range. You don’t need best turret in order to mount the 105mm gun. Improved turret has a much better slope and increases RoF. Not to mention the incredible view range. It has around 190mm of effective armor and the mantlet has some more. It can bounce shots, but unfortunately accurate guns will penetrate more often than not.
Guns:
90mm M3
RoF: 7,88
Penetration: 160/243/45
Average damage: 240/240/320
Accuracy (100m): 0,38
Aim time: 2,3 sec
A poor gun at this tier… you have to suffer until the suspension though. Maybe one of the most horrible grinds in the game.
90mm M36
RoF: 7,88
Penetration: 172/262/45
Average damage: 240/240/320
Accuracy (100m): 0,38
Aim time: 2,3 sec
No reason to research it, except to make Patton elite. Do know it’s the historical M46 gun.
90mm T15E2M2
RoF: 7,88
Penetration: 180/268/45
Average damage: 240/240/320
Accuracy (100m): 0,37
Aim time: 2,3 sec
The extra 20mm of penetration make all the difference when fighting IS-3s and such. Can also penetrate tier 8-9 tanks from the back OR the weakspots when under perfect conditions. Accurate, aims fast and does a decent amount of damage. Despite this, it’s not impressive at tier 9.
105mm T5E1M2
RoF: 6,56-6,73
Penetration: 218/265/53
Average damage: 390/390/480
Accuracy (100m): 0,42
Aim time: 2,3 sec
The best Patton gun offers very good aim time and great damage per shot. Best DPM of all T9 medium tanks and also has excellent accuracy on the move. Its penetration is just enough to penetrate tier 9 and 10 tanks in the weak spots, even though you will still need to be relatively close to them. Only bad side to this gun is the relatively poor standard accuracy, for reasons unknown to us mortals. Its also very fishy that this gun has less APCR penetration than the long 90mm...
Proposed Upgrade Path:
1. Suspension
2. Gun
3. Best engine
4. Best turret
5. Radio
6. M48 Patton
Comparison with its peers:
M46 Patton vs T-54
The T-54 is about as agile as the Patton. It also has a higher top speed and actual armor that can deflect shots from time to time. Still, the Patton is superior in view range, gun depression, ramming potential, sheer stopping power and DPM. It also has pivot turn.
In short:
The Patton is an even better spotter than the T-54.
The Patton has a superior overall gun, though the T-54 has much better APCR penetration.
The T-54 is faster, smaller and has armor.
M46 Patton vs E-50
The E-50 is superior in top speed, almost equal in acceleration but is a good deal worse in the agility department (its still agile though). It has good armor, bad gun depression and although its 105mm gun is definitely outstanding, even it cant measure to the Patton’s chainsaw gun in raw DPM up close. However do not get into a sniper contest with the E-50. Patton still has superior gun depression and accuracy on the move.
In short:
Patton is more agile but slower.
Both have outstanding guns, E-50 is accurate and Patton has DPM.
E-50 has more armor and is an incredible battering ram.
Patton has much superior gun depression and view range.
M46 Patton vs Lorraine
The Lorraine is faster but very big. Fully upgraded it has even better agility. Its gun has better penetration and standard accuracy and also has a 6 round clip with total potential damage of 1800. It does lose out in gun depression, health points, accuracy on the move, can get rammed to death, has even weaker armour than the M46 and lesser alpha damage. It can also get heavily damaged by 130+mm HE rounds.
Historical M46 Patton
The limited use of the M26 Pershing at the end of World War II led US forces to believe they had the basis for a successful tank design. However, the tank did not meet the requirements laid forth by the Ground Forces Equipment Review Board in 1945. The key complaint with the Pershing, was that it was underpowered. The M26 used the same drive train as the M4 series. With the increased weight of the Pershing, it was an inevitable conclusion that a new power plant was needed.
A new engine, the Continental Motors AV-1790-1 V-form, 12-cylinder, water-cooled, gasoline engine was combined with a newly designed General Motors CD-850-1 cross-drive transmission. This power plant provided 740 hp, a somewhat limited increase in power. The novel design of this unit was it acted as a transmission, braking system, and steering system all in one unit. In addition to this modification, a bore evacuator was added to the M3A1 90mm tank gun, along with a single baffle muzzle brake. Certain other changes were made, including an M83 telescopic fire control system, and round transmission access covers.
In essence, the Patton was basically a modernized Pershing. Originally designated the M26E2, the tank was accepted into service as the Medium Tank M46. It was given the nickname "Patton" in honor of the great World War II general George S. Patton, Jr.
With the outbreak of the Korean War, the tank was rushed into action alongside its M26 cousin to combat the North Korean T-34-85s.
The first M46 entered US service in late 1949. The tank saw action in the Korean War from 1950 to 1953, where it proved superior to the Russian T-34-85. About 200 M46 were used by the US forces in Korea. The M46 was retired from US service in 1957. It was exported only to Belgium, and only in comparatively small numbers.
It used the M36 9cm gun, stock turret and second engine.
Suggestions to the developers for better balance:
- Give Patton at least 2-3 more km/h top speed
- Set 105mm gun accuracy at 0,4/0,39, the 0,42 is bad
OR change the M46 Patton to the M47 Patton.
Previous tank: M26 Pershing
http://forum.worldof...7-m26-pershing/
Next tank: M48 Patton
Tank specs:
http://img820.images...0/4222/m46e.jpg
Upgrade tree:
Overview:
A just bought, stock Patton is one of the most disheartening grinds in the entire game. The 90mm gun is quite useless in tier 9 and 10 battles, the engine is relatively underpowered. Until the upgraded suspension, the M46 is more like a T9 T20 and almost no amount of skill can help it.
The upgraded machine is a very capable medium tank. It acts a lot like a T9 version of the Pershing. Unfortunately, the armour that was decent at Tier 8 is nearly useless at tier 9. Only the turret can bounce shots, and is still not all that tough for its tier thanks to the overmatch rules and the fact that the gun mantlet doesn't cover a large part of it. Still, thanks to the frontally mounted turret and insane angles that can be achieved during the usual peeking behind cover, it might still bounce a high powered shot. Just never count on it.
Mobility is quite good. The relatively low top speed is somewhat compensated thanks to the great agility, pivot turn ability and good acceleration. In a sense, this mobility and agility is the vehicle's true protection. The tank is quite capable of circling most heavy tanks and TDs, provided there is some space and the Patton can take care of its prey alone.
The firepower demonstrated by the Patton is worthy of respect. The high RoF and high damage per shot can shred most vehicles in the game quickly. Penetration is decent enough, capable of going through high end tank weakspots, even though its gold round penetration is for some reason relatively low.
With all this said, what sets the M46 apart is not the gun, nor the agility. Things like the incredible gun depression, allowing it to fire over obstacles and use hills in ways few vehicles can, the supreme view range which allows allied TDs and artillery units to pound the enemy over great distances, the good maneuverability on soft ground and extreme accuracy on the move. These advantages are what makes the Patton powerful. Utilizing all of these can turn the Patton into a great "guerrilla" fighter, a decent support unit, a heavy tank hunter or even a scout.
Price: 2 980 000
Camouflage: Good
Gun Elevation: -10°/+22°
Pros:
- Great gun depression.
- Outstanding view range and radio range.
- Great accuracy on the move.
- Outstanding DPM.
- Agile and can pivot turn.
Cons:
- Almost unarmored.
- Low top speed.
- Could have had better accuracy when standing still.
- Horrible when stock.
Designation:
1.Warrior 2. Medium Support Tank 3. Spotter 4. Flanker
Generally, the Patton is kinda dependent on the equipment one wants to mount on it.
Direct Engagement M46 Patton: Ramer; Vertical Stabilizer; Ventilation
Scouting Medium M46 Patton: Coated Optics; Binocular Telescope; Ventilation/ Camouflage Net
Crew:
1. Commander
2. Gunner
3. Driver
4. Radioman
5. Loader
Crew skills (only an example, up to 4th skill):
Spoiler
Modules:
Hull:
Armor scheme currently in use:
Spoiler
102/76/76
The frontal armor is 102mm sloped which gives the Patton an effective armor of around 132 mm. This means that you can bounce 75L70 and 88L56 rounds very often and even D10T can bounce, provided you slope yourself. The front mounted turret and low hull silhouette allow you to achieve insane angles during peek a boo fight. Although this amount of armor was decent at tier 8, its poor at tier 9. You are probably going to get penetrated all the time no matter what you do.
Suspension:
M46T80E1 / Max.capacity 41.2 / Turn speed 36 deg per sec.
M46T81 / Max.capacity 45.05 / Turn speed 38 deg per sec.
The best suspension seems to not only affect your turn rate, it also has better ground clearance and makes accuracy on the move a little better. You need it first, in order to mount the other stuff and save your sanity by changing the 9cm M3 to the long 90mm gun.
Engine:
Ford GAN / 560 horse power / 20% chance of fire
Continental AV-1790-1 / 704 horse power / 20% chance of fire
AV-1790-5A / 820 horse power / 20% chance of fire
Stock engine is made of fail and makes you act like a heavy. At least use the second one from the Pershing. Best engine is quite good and I suggest taking it after the gun.
Radio:
SCR 508 – range 395 meters
SCR 528 - 745 meters
Best radio is EPIC. The stock one, on the other hand is simply bad. Upgrade when you can, it can be used on many other US tanks.
Turrets:
M46M71
Armor: 102/76/76
Rotation: 38 degrees/second
View range: 402m
M46M67
Armor: 114/76/76
Rotation: 39 degrees/second
View range: 420m
The stock turret is not all that good as it limits one of your advantages- view range. You don’t need best turret in order to mount the 105mm gun. Improved turret has a much better slope and increases RoF. Not to mention the incredible view range. It has around 190mm of effective armor and the mantlet has some more. It can bounce shots, but unfortunately accurate guns will penetrate more often than not.
Guns:
90mm M3
RoF: 7,88
Penetration: 160/243/45
Average damage: 240/240/320
Accuracy (100m): 0,38
Aim time: 2,3 sec
A poor gun at this tier… you have to suffer until the suspension though. Maybe one of the most horrible grinds in the game.
90mm M36
RoF: 7,88
Penetration: 172/262/45
Average damage: 240/240/320
Accuracy (100m): 0,38
Aim time: 2,3 sec
No reason to research it, except to make Patton elite. Do know it’s the historical M46 gun.
90mm T15E2M2
RoF: 7,88
Penetration: 180/268/45
Average damage: 240/240/320
Accuracy (100m): 0,37
Aim time: 2,3 sec
The extra 20mm of penetration make all the difference when fighting IS-3s and such. Can also penetrate tier 8-9 tanks from the back OR the weakspots when under perfect conditions. Accurate, aims fast and does a decent amount of damage. Despite this, it’s not impressive at tier 9.
105mm T5E1M2
RoF: 6,56-6,73
Penetration: 218/265/53
Average damage: 390/390/480
Accuracy (100m): 0,42
Aim time: 2,3 sec
The best Patton gun offers very good aim time and great damage per shot. Best DPM of all T9 medium tanks and also has excellent accuracy on the move. Its penetration is just enough to penetrate tier 9 and 10 tanks in the weak spots, even though you will still need to be relatively close to them. Only bad side to this gun is the relatively poor standard accuracy, for reasons unknown to us mortals. Its also very fishy that this gun has less APCR penetration than the long 90mm...
Proposed Upgrade Path:
1. Suspension
2. Gun
3. Best engine
4. Best turret
5. Radio
6. M48 Patton
Comparison with its peers:
M46 Patton vs T-54
The T-54 is about as agile as the Patton. It also has a higher top speed and actual armor that can deflect shots from time to time. Still, the Patton is superior in view range, gun depression, ramming potential, sheer stopping power and DPM. It also has pivot turn.
In short:
The Patton is an even better spotter than the T-54.
The Patton has a superior overall gun, though the T-54 has much better APCR penetration.
The T-54 is faster, smaller and has armor.
M46 Patton vs E-50
The E-50 is superior in top speed, almost equal in acceleration but is a good deal worse in the agility department (its still agile though). It has good armor, bad gun depression and although its 105mm gun is definitely outstanding, even it cant measure to the Patton’s chainsaw gun in raw DPM up close. However do not get into a sniper contest with the E-50. Patton still has superior gun depression and accuracy on the move.
In short:
Patton is more agile but slower.
Both have outstanding guns, E-50 is accurate and Patton has DPM.
E-50 has more armor and is an incredible battering ram.
Patton has much superior gun depression and view range.
M46 Patton vs Lorraine
The Lorraine is faster but very big. Fully upgraded it has even better agility. Its gun has better penetration and standard accuracy and also has a 6 round clip with total potential damage of 1800. It does lose out in gun depression, health points, accuracy on the move, can get rammed to death, has even weaker armour than the M46 and lesser alpha damage. It can also get heavily damaged by 130+mm HE rounds.
Historical M46 Patton
The limited use of the M26 Pershing at the end of World War II led US forces to believe they had the basis for a successful tank design. However, the tank did not meet the requirements laid forth by the Ground Forces Equipment Review Board in 1945. The key complaint with the Pershing, was that it was underpowered. The M26 used the same drive train as the M4 series. With the increased weight of the Pershing, it was an inevitable conclusion that a new power plant was needed.
A new engine, the Continental Motors AV-1790-1 V-form, 12-cylinder, water-cooled, gasoline engine was combined with a newly designed General Motors CD-850-1 cross-drive transmission. This power plant provided 740 hp, a somewhat limited increase in power. The novel design of this unit was it acted as a transmission, braking system, and steering system all in one unit. In addition to this modification, a bore evacuator was added to the M3A1 90mm tank gun, along with a single baffle muzzle brake. Certain other changes were made, including an M83 telescopic fire control system, and round transmission access covers.
In essence, the Patton was basically a modernized Pershing. Originally designated the M26E2, the tank was accepted into service as the Medium Tank M46. It was given the nickname "Patton" in honor of the great World War II general George S. Patton, Jr.
With the outbreak of the Korean War, the tank was rushed into action alongside its M26 cousin to combat the North Korean T-34-85s.
The first M46 entered US service in late 1949. The tank saw action in the Korean War from 1950 to 1953, where it proved superior to the Russian T-34-85. About 200 M46 were used by the US forces in Korea. The M46 was retired from US service in 1957. It was exported only to Belgium, and only in comparatively small numbers.
It used the M36 9cm gun, stock turret and second engine.
Suggestions to the developers for better balance:
- Give Patton at least 2-3 more km/h top speed
- Set 105mm gun accuracy at 0,4/0,39, the 0,42 is bad
OR change the M46 Patton to the M47 Patton.
dolofonos
28 Sep 2011
Love it! It’s not the best med but it is fun to drive!
Suggestions to the developers for better balance:
- Give Patton at least 2-3 more km/h top speed
- Set 105mm gun accuracy at 0,35-6, the 0,37 is bad
Your suggestions are perfect and I will add more hit points if not more armor!
Suggestions to the developers for better balance:
- Give Patton at least 2-3 more km/h top speed
- Set 105mm gun accuracy at 0,35-6, the 0,37 is bad
Your suggestions are perfect and I will add more hit points if not more armor!
Kwagga
28 Sep 2011
dolofonos, on 28 September 2011 - 09:52 PM, said:
Love it! It’s not the best med but it is fun to drive!
Suggestions to the developers for better balance:
- Give Patton at least 2-3 more km/h top speed
- Set 105mm gun accuracy at 0,35-6, the 0,37 is bad
Your suggestions are perfect and I will add more hit points if not more armor!
Suggestions to the developers for better balance:
- Give Patton at least 2-3 more km/h top speed
- Set 105mm gun accuracy at 0,35-6, the 0,37 is bad
Your suggestions are perfect and I will add more hit points if not more armor!
Second that.
Or give one elited Patton 101/60 degree glacis, effectively transforming it to M47.
Lose or improve the M36 gun, now it's a waste of xp. Penetration shall be set like 185 mm. The original one had 152mm/30 degree at 1000 yards penetration, that roughly equals 185-190 mm at 100 meters.
Rework that, shamefull, fraudulent new turret, now it has basically the same ballistic protection (TESTED), as the upper hull, which was not the case IRL..
Lupusceleri
28 Sep 2011
Suggestions to devs:
- More top speed (at least 50 km/h, it's an insult to see IS-7s with governors/oil driving past you).
- Approximately 200mm frontal turret armour. Leave the hull as it is, in line with the rest of the USA heavies.
- More top speed (at least 50 km/h, it's an insult to see IS-7s with governors/oil driving past you).
- Approximately 200mm frontal turret armour. Leave the hull as it is, in line with the rest of the USA heavies.
naiboo
29 Sep 2011
a little bit more bouncy on front and patton would be by far best medium! too bad that every gun fight against can penetrate you!
shibii
29 Sep 2011
I'm fine with Pattons mobility (mediocre) and armor (nonexistent) which are pretty much on line with the rest of the american medium line.
What really frustrates me is how awful the accuracy is on the top gun. Pershing was a great damage dealer on pretty much all ranges.
Patton has hard time utilizing that higher ground position which you won on early round because targets +300m are simply out of reach.
What really frustrates me is how awful the accuracy is on the top gun. Pershing was a great damage dealer on pretty much all ranges.
Patton has hard time utilizing that higher ground position which you won on early round because targets +300m are simply out of reach.
Charcharo
29 Sep 2011
Yeah, exactly why I want it to have at least 0,35 accuracy. Youz right.
Another fishy thing is, why does the Patton have worse APCR penetration than the Pershing?
Another fishy thing is, why does the Patton have worse APCR penetration than the Pershing?
steamrick
29 Sep 2011
Very good review 
Maybe mention that you will already have best radio and second engine researched from Pershing (or you'd better have them researched)
With second engine, mobility is medium-worthy but the top engine is a noticable upgrade.
I couldn't agree more.
I'd also like to see either 150+ turret armor or more HP for the Patton. It does alright against T-54 (especially the many noob drivers) but will almost always lose against E-50 in a one-on-one because E-50 can bounce it too easily.
Maybe mention that you will already have best radio and second engine researched from Pershing (or you'd better have them researched)
With second engine, mobility is medium-worthy but the top engine is a noticable upgrade.
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Suggestions to the developers for better balance:
- Give Patton at least 2-3 more km/h top speed
- Set 105mm gun accuracy at 0,35-6, the 0,37 is bad
- Give Patton at least 2-3 more km/h top speed
- Set 105mm gun accuracy at 0,35-6, the 0,37 is bad
I'd also like to see either 150+ turret armor or more HP for the Patton. It does alright against T-54 (especially the many noob drivers) but will almost always lose against E-50 in a one-on-one because E-50 can bounce it too easily.
R3b00t
29 Sep 2011
Very nice review. +1 from me. Accuracy is fine as it is, after the on-the-move fix.
You can drive full speed in every direction and hit targets over half the map. And more Armor would make the Patton the one and only Medium, so drawbacks are needed.
In my opinion the Patton is superior to every other med ingame and can deal with every heavy except the E-100.
You can drive full speed in every direction and hit targets over half the map. And more Armor would make the Patton the one and only Medium, so drawbacks are needed.
In my opinion the Patton is superior to every other med ingame and can deal with every heavy except the E-100.
Infine
30 Sep 2011
R3b00t, on 29 September 2011 - 07:20 PM, said:
Very nice review. +1 from me. Accuracy is fine as it is, after the on-the-move fix.
You can drive full speed in every direction and hit targets over half the map. And more Armor would make the Patton the one and only Medium, so drawbacks are needed.
In my opinion the Patton is superior to every other med ingame and can deal with every heavy except the E-100.
You can drive full speed in every direction and hit targets over half the map. And more Armor would make the Patton the one and only Medium, so drawbacks are needed.
In my opinion the Patton is superior to every other med ingame and can deal with every heavy except the E-100.
naiboo
30 Sep 2011
yesterday i got my 105mm, now the fun has started, bad damage and finally a gun that can hurt enemies badly!
it feels like a completly new tank now, im still missing the upgraded turret and last engine but the games i had so far with 105mm were very enjoyable and funny. the only bad thing is that sniping isnt really the strength of patton anymore, pretty inaccurate with 0,37m but still quite nice damage if you hit!
it feels like a completly new tank now, im still missing the upgraded turret and last engine but the games i had so far with 105mm were very enjoyable and funny. the only bad thing is that sniping isnt really the strength of patton anymore, pretty inaccurate with 0,37m but still quite nice damage if you hit!
R3b00t
30 Sep 2011
Infine, on 30 September 2011 - 08:14 AM, said:
What's wrong with E100? In my experience it's quite manageable in the open if you track it time to time.
For you maybe. Not for me. I can deal with IS-7, and T-30 everywhere and Maus in special Terrain Cases. I never killed an E-100 1vs1
Infine
30 Sep 2011
R3b00t, on 30 September 2011 - 09:50 AM, said:
For you maybe. Not for me. I can deal with IS-7, and T-30 everywhere and Maus in special Terrain Cases. I never killed an E-100 1vs1
Maus and E100 just take too long to fight because you can't fire on cooldown and have to shoot tracks with 0 damage sometimes.
trispect
30 Sep 2011
If the speed would be buffed then maybe it could be used in CW more often. Now it's just so slow... =(
Why it has to be so slow anyway? According to Wikipedia the max speed was 60km/h. So something like 52km/h max speed in-game shouldn't be too much.
Why it has to be so slow anyway? According to Wikipedia the max speed was 60km/h. So something like 52km/h max speed in-game shouldn't be too much.
kizarze
30 Sep 2011
Charcharo, on 28 September 2011 - 08:43 PM, said:
M46 Patton vs T-54
The T-54 is faster, more agile and has armor[/i]
The T-54 is faster, more agile and has armor[/i]
This is inaccurate. The T-54 is faster but in a 1v1 T-54 vs Patton fight with both drivers at the same skill level, the T-54 will lose to the agility and firepower of the Patton.
A friend of mine who was previously a Leopard 2 tank gunner in the Canadian army and saw action in Afghanistan argued this point with me (my point being that the t-54 was superior). We went into training battles, I in my Patton and him in his T-54. Time and time again I was able to defeat the T-54 with my Patton with turning speed and proper angling of the turret to avoid penetrating hits. My friend is a skilled T-54 and Patton driver, I revere him as even more skilled than I, and we have done many CW and tournaments together. Having all that said I am forced to agree with him that the Patton is more agile and has the upper hand on a T-54.
I am an NA server player and this link is a reference to my Patton experience, I am not boasting, just further validating my above statements: http://uc.worldoftan...281578-kizarze/
losvar
01 Oct 2011
Patton seem to be quite a bit more agile than the T-54, as I have no problem in out-maneuvering T-54s in CQB.
It's probably the most awesome and fun brawler in the whole game, and will slaughter IS-4s in it's sleep if they come close without backup.
Also, all hail the glorious Patton of ultimate destruction!
It's probably the most awesome and fun brawler in the whole game, and will slaughter IS-4s in it's sleep if they come close without backup.
Also, all hail the glorious Patton of ultimate destruction!
Shortcake
02 Oct 2011
Hello, i've double posted this cos i've been drinking... :/ Hey it's Sunday why not.
If you didn't enjoy the Pershing and believe the T44 is a better T8 medium tank is it worth buying a Patton? I noticed the fish head shaped turret on the Patton which looks friggin ace (if you can hide your chasis) but if it gets de-tracked and de-stroyed like the Pershing is it worth 3 mill creds?
thanks
If you didn't enjoy the Pershing and believe the T44 is a better T8 medium tank is it worth buying a Patton? I noticed the fish head shaped turret on the Patton which looks friggin ace (if you can hide your chasis) but if it gets de-tracked and de-stroyed like the Pershing is it worth 3 mill creds?
thanks
losvar
02 Oct 2011
If you like blowing stuff up, and can avoid getting shot at, then the Patton is for you.
No, we don't.
Patton is the best tier 9 medium for random matches right now, and to get M47 hull, we would have to be nerfed on some other stat, so we don't need it.
Celestia, on 02 October 2011 - 06:48 PM, said:
we need the M47 hull, not the M46 (101mm / 60 degrees)
Patton is the best tier 9 medium for random matches right now, and to get M47 hull, we would have to be nerfed on some other stat, so we don't need it.
trispect
02 Oct 2011
Celestia, on 02 October 2011 - 06:48 PM, said:
we need the M47 hull, not the M46 (101mm / 60 degrees)
We need just more speed and it's perfect.
