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Y_O_L_0 #1 Posted 16 September 2016 - 04:20 PM

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Good day!

 

Sorry for starting a useless thread, but I was thinking, on what did WG base the HD model of the 121, when there are no existing photos, or there are existing photos but they are being hidden somewhere in China (or some other state)?

 

There is a site called "For The Record" which has an article on Chinese tanks, here's the link: http://ftr.wot-news.com/2015/01/25/chinese-tank-121-and-t-34-x-series-part-1/

I quote from this article:

 

"The prototype of the 121 was made, but no pictures exist to show us what it looked like and surprisingly enough, it was destroyed in the Chinese Nuclear Test (I think they never thought of keeping a failed tank, so why not use it as a test vehicle, would have loved if 121, WZ-132 etc. were kept to this date)"

 

No pictures, no photos, no drawing, nothing, WG just made the tank model out of fantasy? Or one of their workers actually was there in China in the 60's?

 

There was a parallel test vehicle for the future Type 69, this one had triple hydraulics. Even though this was another prototype, it seems to have some super bouncy turret, couldn't the 121 have the same turret?



captainpigg #2 Posted 16 September 2016 - 08:03 PM

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Very simply, every prototype tank that was destroyed during Chinese nuclear testing is a complete fake made up by Wargming's Chinese partner.

So they can make it look however they want, as well change the armor values, gun depression, etc to whatever they want to.


Edited by captainpigg, 16 September 2016 - 08:06 PM.


Orkbert #3 Posted 17 September 2016 - 07:47 AM

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At least there had been a built prototype once. We have tanks in this game that barely made it beyond conceptual sketches, let alone viable blueprints or even a prototype.

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View Postcaptainpigg, on 16 September 2016 - 07:03 PM, said:

Very simply, every prototype tank that was destroyed during Chinese nuclear testing is a complete fake made up by Wargming's Chinese partner.

So they can make it look however they want, as well change the armor values, gun depression, etc to whatever they want to.

 

That is most unfortunate. I wish there would be a made up tank by China at tier 10, not a tank made up by WarGaming.

 

View PostOrkbert, on 17 September 2016 - 06:47 AM, said:

At least there had been a built prototype once. We have tanks in this game that barely made it beyond conceptual sketches, let alone viable blueprints or even a prototype.

 

At least other tanks had drawings, there are no drawings of the 121. I could have made up a tank too and then added into the game, here, take a look, this was an existing drawing of a real tank:

 



Ulfarr #5 Posted 18 September 2016 - 08:13 PM

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To be honest, as long as blueprints exists, then reproducing the model is possible. I would even argue that this case would also be easier than having to create a model without blueprints and  based only on a few pictures of it (which may show only part of the tank). So the questions is, did they found/used any archived blueprints? Well, we can only speculate on that part.

madman2711 #6 Posted 10 December 2016 - 09:09 PM

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I'm pretty sure the Chinese PLA has everything about the 121 pictures blueprints specs test data.
What do you have on the t28 prototype  





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