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Update 9.16: Close-up on the first Swedish tank


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Community #1 Posted 06 October 2016 - 04:30 PM

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Looking to take the Strv m/42-57 Alt A.2 for a spin? Then, let us give you a heads-up with an overview of its battlefield specs and a few tips on how to use it in combat.

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Quaksen #2 Posted 06 October 2016 - 04:37 PM

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"whereas the penetration of Premium shells is 200 mm"

Except it's 190 mm, as shown everywhere else.

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Max_Calibre #3 Posted 06 October 2016 - 05:23 PM

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190mm of penetration is true value, so not as good at T8

200mm of penetration is only 10mm extra but it does make a big difference when your a T6 bottom of the troll MM with many enemy T8 killing you for fun, while farming easy WN8 as you die


 

extra 10mm for 200mm pen is yes please


 


 


Edited by Max_Calibre, 06 October 2016 - 05:26 PM.


SlyMeerkat #4 Posted 06 October 2016 - 06:08 PM

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I rather like the tank, its an interesting one :)

Fluffy_The_Destroyer #5 Posted 06 October 2016 - 06:33 PM

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I laughed.

"MASSIVE KABOOM". The 90-mm magazine loading system with four shells is a big plus for this new Swedish vehicle. Just imagine: you’re on the battlefield, you’ve got someone in your sights, and you know you’re in a Tier VI vehicle capable of causing 600 damage in 6 seconds. With some luck or skillful shooting, one magazine can be enough to destroy a medium tank of the same tier."

 

PEWPEWPEW is not "kaboom" shows what you know what a real gun sounds like WG!, 152 goes kaboom. not this gun.

"just imagine" i do that allot in this game. i imagine i get the oppertunity to do allot of stuff but in reality your team melts and you get off 4 shots, 2 bounce 1 misses and 1 MIGHT pen. like all TROLLoloaders.

And again. saying "onemag = one same tier tank dead" is not balanced WG. clearly you can see that because YOU WROTE IT! im sure 1 clipping same tier mediums seems balanced to you right? because people dont complain enough already about insane burst tanks and 1 shot cannons.

 

Patch after patch you ruin the game. why is this tier 6 with 148 pen while AMX 12t has 144pen and meets tier 9?. Nice balance WG. i golfclap you as usual.

 

Edit: "In extreme cases, you can switch to Premium shells to penetrate." AKA, when you see tier 8 load gold and bounce against the legions of IS-3/6/kv5 and now 112.

 

 

 


Edited by Fluffy_The_Destroyer, 06 October 2016 - 06:36 PM.


HillBill79 #6 Posted 06 October 2016 - 09:15 PM

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It has a major problem with the engine. It gets knocked out most hits to the front of the tank, and i don't mean damaged. I mean knocked out totally, from one hit from a cromwell. 

 

Must be a bug with the hitbox as that shouldn't be possible.



LordofDiscord #7 Posted 06 October 2016 - 11:02 PM

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"The 90-mm magazine loading system with four shells is a big plus for this new Swedish vehicle"..except after I bought it I see its not the 90mm...its a 75mm..

If you lazy useless shoe-larks cant even establish the facts correctly find new jobs.

Anyone thinking of buying this dont bother...no armour but they forgot to at least give it some mobility and the gun is mediocre.Crew training is not even viable since you will need loaders and radio operators for anything you want to move the crew into.It could have been good...but thats WG

 



LordofDiscord #8 Posted 06 October 2016 - 11:02 PM

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View PostHillBill79, on 06 October 2016 - 08:15 PM, said:

It has a major problem with the engine. It gets knocked out most hits to the front of the tank, and i don't mean damaged. I mean knocked out totally, from one hit from a cromwell. 

 

Must be a bug with the hitbox as that shouldn't be possible.

 

Same here

brisha #9 Posted 07 October 2016 - 12:10 AM

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Yes nearly every game and I'm not exaggerating the engine gets knocked out, full sit there like an idiot to die knocked out and not just damaged. After that no point repairing cause next shot takes your rack. you're a one shot to an O-i from the front (confirmed) and a Cromwell will beat you hands down. Don't know if WG has made a mistake with the engine and rack or not but the tank is pretty much unplayable in all but 5% of the servers hands. cammo, what cammo, armour, nope. Redeeming features, well the gun is decent in T6 and 7 but don't try to empty your clip, as you don't have time and you will die quickly, the 15 second reload allows any semi quick tank light or medium to kill you before your reloaded. Leave this one out until the engine is sorted , don't say you haven't been warned.

 



Fluffy_The_Destroyer #10 Posted 07 October 2016 - 12:34 AM

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Anything this can do. cromwell does better.

tankzman #11 Posted 07 October 2016 - 04:52 AM

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So they put a french turret on a swedish tank that never had a french turret ... 

Cobra6 #12 Posted 07 October 2016 - 09:16 AM

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It's quite a good tank actually, however there are some minor tweaks that should be done somewhere in the next patch:

-Engine health should be increased, your engine gets destroyed (not damaged, destroyed) all the time in 1 shot. Currently the engine health is 100 compared to 247 on Cromwell, so please fix this.

-DPM should be brought in line slightly more, ~1800. The trade-off for an autoloader should not be DPM mainly but whether you want to do burst damage or consistent damage.

-Maybe slight HP/t ratio increase, although the mobility is quite good.

 

Played 27 battles in mine Yesterday in T6 skirmishes and I like this thing a lot more than the Cromwell B, the gun handling is much better.

But don't think this tank is easy to play successfully, it requires competence at this game to do so like any autoloader.

 

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HillBill79 #13 Posted 07 October 2016 - 12:01 PM

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I do like the tank... i do pretty well in it. I also prefer it over the Bromwell.

 

Only been ammo racked once, but the engine has been knocked out in a good few games... i could understand it being knocked out by an IS3 in one shot, but not a cromwell.

 

Never had a fire though... so will try it with double repair kits.

 

 

 

 



HillBill79 #14 Posted 07 October 2016 - 12:01 PM

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View PostFluffy_The_Destroyer, on 06 October 2016 - 11:34 PM, said:

Anything this can do. cromwell does better.

 

Apart from gun handling, and burst damage.

BP_OMowe #15 Posted 07 October 2016 - 12:19 PM

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View PostFluffy_The_Destroyer, on 07 October 2016 - 12:34 AM, said:

Anything this can do. cromwell does better.

 

I'd like to see you train Swedish crew members in your Cromwell :-p

 

That aside, every tier have some vehicle that simply is better than the competition. If you are a stat-whore, you should obviously only play the handful of the >300 vehicles at your disposal that really stands out from the crowd.

 

View Posttankzman, on 07 October 2016 - 04:52 AM, said:

So they put a french turret on a swedish tank that never had a french turret ... 

 

That's why its fitting as a premium vehicle. Sweden had extensive experience with the AMX-13 as the contract for 300-400 tanks were all but signed when the offer to buy Centurions came. With the flight-ceiling rapidly raising during the war, a whole heap of medium 7.5 cm AA-guns (m/36 and m/37) were no longer viable in that role but with relatively high muzzle velocity they could be converted to AT-use. The m/42-tank's armament was outdated, rearming them with the dismissed AA-guns would be enough to make them usable again.
Alternative 1 was to develop a domestic turret  while Alternative 2 was to use the turrets from AMX-13 in order to lessen the development-risks as well as compensate the French for the lost procurement. It turned out that the alt.2 would require extensive modifications to the hulls to fit the larger turret ring, which would drive the cost up too much and thus Sven Berge's domestic construction was chosen for serial production.



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View PostHillBill79, on 07 October 2016 - 12:01 PM, said:

 

Apart from gun handling, and burst damage.

 

Burst yes. 2.1k DPM baseline? nope.  you have to run and reload after 4 shots. cromwell can get very fast RoF and insanely consistant damage, better everything else. cromwell dont need gun handling when you can autoaim circle everything with that BS mobility.

magnus417 #17 Posted 07 October 2016 - 02:57 PM

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The module (I'm looking at you engine) damage and crew damage is really bad on this tank.  Any frontal shot from any T4+ tank can kill you engine and normally tracks.  Most shots anywhere will normally do some damage to crew then you have 30+ second reload.  You repair next same.  The gun stats seem way off.  The number of bounces on tanks that should not bounce is crazy.  I have aced the tank three times now and it can be good fun but way to many problems with it.  Not sure how much of this was known about before hand.  I can only assume that's why we did not get to use it on test server.  I have bought around 35 premium tanks some really bad.  However this is the first one I think I am going to get a refund on.  

Bennyboymothman #18 Posted 07 October 2016 - 03:13 PM

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It's great..best game so far for me was 2.5k damage and 9 kills. I've had 5 games now out of 20 where I did over 2k damage and not all were top tier. It's just like a skoda t25 only better.

magnus417 #19 Posted 07 October 2016 - 04:02 PM

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Well after 35 games and in the last being shot in the [edited]and killing my engine.  Mind made up.  Going to request a refund.  

 

Good luck to all those getting the tank and those enjoying it.



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View Postmagnus417, on 07 October 2016 - 04:02 PM, said:

Well after 35 games and in the last being shot in the [edited]and killing my engine.  Mind made up.  Going to request a refund.  

 

Good luck to all those getting the tank and those enjoying it.

Good luck.

"To put it bluntly – it is not possible to neither swap nor refund your Premium tank if you have already played with it."

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