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Edward_Teague #61 Posted 17 October 2011 - 10:37 PM

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^^^^ sniper ??

Is a t59 a sniper??

Nirvana #62 Posted 17 October 2011 - 11:38 PM

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The type 59 gun has 3.4 accuracy with 2.5 aim time, compared to 0.31 and 2.0.

schuberth #63 Posted 18 October 2011 - 09:14 AM

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Well, T-44 should be better than Type 59 at least in one compartment. That's the way things should be, don't you agree?

Getting a better gun is an option. How much better is open to discussion but really we can moan all day and it won't make a smallest difference  - in the end WG decides.

Personally, I think they should buff the 122mm. As it is it's basically an esoteric decoration. Hardly usable.

Nirvana #64 Posted 18 October 2011 - 04:24 PM

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Of course they decide, and what we say doesn't really matter, but oh well...

As for being better than the Type-59, I'm okay with that. What I am not okay with, is it being greatly superior to the Panther II and Pershing. I am also not okay with the other way around, as in Pershing and Panther II being greatly superior to the T-44. So, with the risk of repeating myself, all I am saying that it might need a buff, but not too much of one as to screw up the balance.

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View PostNirvana, on 18 October 2011 - 04:24 PM, said:

as in Pershing and Panther II being greatly superior to the T-44. So, with the risk of repeating myself, all I am saying that it might need a buff, but not too much of one as to screw up the balance.

if u are talking about medium vs medium balance i don't think they will kill with that upgrade the balance. But well only practical experience will tell.

if u talke about medium vs heavy i think all mediums need a heavy buff, but well thats kinda off topic.

demian_sartre #66 Posted 20 October 2011 - 03:42 PM

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T44 is the worst tier 8 med right now. And to be honest Type 59 is way better and it should not be.

I just don't find T44 a threat when driving the Type. I think the most powerful T8 med at the moment in Panther 2, then Type, then Pershing and last is T44.

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View Postdemian_sartre, on 20 October 2011 - 03:42 PM, said:

T44 is the worst tier 8 med right now. And to be honest Type 59 is way better and it should not be.

I just don't find T44 a threat when driving the Type. I think the most powerful T8 med at the moment in Panther 2, then Type, then Pershing and last is T44.

Why not? You pay real money, you demand good tank. Thats quite obvious to me.

Pershing is not superior to T-44 in any way. It has no armor whatsoever, it has no decent gun or speed. T-44 is on the other hand nicely sloped and very fast and agile.

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I waited to comment on this till I had my T44 so I could give a better opinion.

The tank itself is great and fairly balanced. It has decent armour, is mobile enough and has enough firepower to engage its own tier relatively well.
What is does not have is accuracy and aimtime which it desperately needs. I miss frequently if I don't wait for the aim to settle completely which really negates the advantage I get from outflanking enemies sometimes.

Right now I would say the T44 is the worst tier eight medium but the introduction of the LB-1 (with tuned rof) will sort almost all the issues with it. The only other major one that comes to mind is the ammorack, which is fragile with a wet ammo rack and so fragile without it any hits that would usually damage the rack usually straight up destroy it which is no fun.

Its fun to play now as it is but when it gets the LB-1 it should be fun alot more consistently, I'd also like to see a buff to the rof of the 122mm to make it more viable for all around use and not the niche weapon it is right now.

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View Postsparrow_, on 20 October 2011 - 09:29 PM, said:

Why not? You pay real money, you demand good tank. Thats quite obvious to me.

Pershing is not superior to T-44 in any way. It has no armor whatsoever, it has no decent gun or speed. T-44 is on the other hand nicely sloped and very fast and agile.

I agree and type is a great tank, but in battle im not afraid of a T44, it simply wont macth my Type59, all shots bounce in my front armor.
Allthough i agree they should buff a litle T-44, but even with new gun i still think wont be a macth to type as well.

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ight now I would say the T44 is the worst tier eight medium but the  introduction of the LB-1 (with tuned rof) will sort almost all the  issues with it. The only other major one that comes to mind is the  ammorack, which is fragile with a wet ammo rack and so fragile without  it any hits that would usually damage the rack usually straight up  destroy it which is no fun.
About the ammo racks, well, that is the problem with all the meds in tier 8.

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View Postsparrow_, on 20 October 2011 - 09:29 PM, said:

Why not? You pay real money, you demand good tank. Thats quite obvious to me.

Pershing is not superior to T-44 in any way. It has no armour whatsoever, it has no decent gun or speed. T-44 is on the other hand nicely sloped and very fast and agile.

The Pershing is the best tier8 med I have taken out two T44 who were working together on my own in a pershing, and can kill three t44 in a single battle as long as its one at a time.

I used to drive the T23, and I remember how scary it used to be to have a T44 coming at you as that 90mm would just bounce off every angle of a t44 and any good driver would not let you get a clean shot at a weak-point.

the ammo rack I felt was some way of balancing the over powered nature of the T44 in the old tier vs T23 and panther-1 but now the T44 is the weakest in the tier and so when I one-shot a poor chap due to an ammo rack explosion I feel its a little unfair, they should rebalance the T44 to take into account the better tanks in the tier.

I am going up the RU med line, hope its got the new gun and is all sorted by then.

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sold my fully upgraded (with free xp) t44 after some games. No point to run around with a Tier7 gun from the T-43. So, good news this new gun....t-44 was the biggest disappointment in the whole game with the Tier7 gun as the top gun.

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View PostTiger_Buster, on 21 October 2011 - 03:09 AM, said:

I agree and type is a great tank, but in battle im not afraid of a T44, it simply wont macth my Type59, all shots bounce in my front armor.
Allthough i agree they should buff a litle T-44, but even with new gun i still think wont be a macth to type as well.

About the ammo racks, well, that is the problem with all the meds in tier 8.

I've driven all of them. The T44 has it far far worse than the panther II and pershing, with the wet ammorack is still far more fragile than they are without one.

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The Pershing is the best tier8 med I have taken out two T44 who were working together on my own in a pershing, and can kill three t44 in a single battle as long as its one at a time.

They were blind probably... T44 can penetrate pershing very easily. Pershing/t23 are the worst tanks i ve played in this game.

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I find the Pershing a fair bit better than the T-44 actually.. and the Panther 2 is much better.  Even with a decently accurate gun it will still be slightly worse than Pershing tbh, but at least it won't miss quite so much.

Depends what they set the rate of fire at on the T-44, should be around 8 imo.

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View Postsparrow_, on 21 October 2011 - 09:35 PM, said:

They were blind probably... T44 can penetrate pershing very easily. Pershing/t23 are the worst tanks i ve played in this game.

It simply must not suit your play-style, but my comments about Pershing v T44 are accurate and consistent, as long as I'm over 50% I never feel threatened by any T44 on its own.

Its all about keeping your frontal between you and him and getting as close as you can so he cant get your lower hull and will maximise the chance of a bounce off the turret

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getting as close as you can so he cant get your lower hull and will maximise the chance of a bounce off the turret

It maximises the chance of bouncing off his turret as well ( 120mm T-44 vs 114mm Pershing ).

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View Postsparrow_, on 22 October 2011 - 12:25 PM, said:

It maximises the chance of bouncing off his turret as well ( 120mm T-44 vs 114mm Pershing ).

Pershing has a tougher mantlet, its far more likely you bounce off him than he will bounce off you.

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The T44s advantage other than speed is in on the side and rear armour, Pershing is very vulnerable from the side and rear from pretty much anything it is likely to be in a match with.

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View PostNirvana, on 18 October 2011 - 04:24 PM, said:

Of course they decide, and what we say doesn't really matter, but oh well...

As for being better than the Type-59, I'm okay with that. What I am not okay with, is it being greatly superior to the Panther II and Pershing. I am also not okay with the other way around, as in Pershing and Panther II being greatly superior to the T-44. So, with the risk of repeating myself, all I am saying that it might need a buff, but not too much of one as to screw up the balance.
The penetration and damage remain, the accuracy and aiming time is just slightly better

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View PostKyphe, on 21 October 2011 - 03:39 AM, said:

The Pershing is the best tier8 med I have taken out two T44 who were working together on my own in a pershing, and can kill three t44 in a single battle as long as its one at a time.



Probably you are up against two bad drivers.

Lets have training battle,me and my pal from clan in T-44 against you in Pershing.
Lets see how good you are.




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