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Eila_Juutilainen #41 Posted 09 November 2016 - 05:53 PM

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I don't get why M4 Rev gets it's already unhistorical gun depression increased even more, while Panther88 keeps it's crappy gun depression.

 

Also, not sure if I would have buffed the Rev in that way. The mobility is welcome, but I rather would have had 220-230mm pen on the APCR instead. It's already terrible against sloped armour, which you're buffing even more.

 

 

Also also: RIP any tank with flat armour I guess?



diegosgm #42 Posted 09 November 2016 - 05:55 PM

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So now no more overmatch of tiger2 turret by russian 122s??? Can't believe my eyes...

Apart form most of the buffs that were really needed (lowe and fv in particular), was it necessary to buff sta2? Now it has better mobility (top speed and p/t ratio than sta1), same dpm and gun stats... Quite a pay to win, isn't it?



muceamuc #43 Posted 09 November 2016 - 05:59 PM

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From what I see the armour in general will get a buff, in my opinion this is a result of how fast the gameplay is this days.

mujex #44 Posted 09 November 2016 - 06:01 PM

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YAY, now my Ravioli will be slightly less useless!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

To be fair, the 10 degrees of depression and better aim time will come in handy.



leggasiini #45 Posted 09 November 2016 - 06:06 PM

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View PostEila_Juutilainen, on 09 November 2016 - 06:53 PM, said:

Also also: RIP any tank with flat armour I guess?

Why it is like that? I mean, flat armor wont get real changes at all.


Edited by leggasiini, 09 November 2016 - 06:07 PM.


Alabamatick #46 Posted 09 November 2016 - 06:13 PM

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View PostUlicum, on 09 November 2016 - 03:45 PM, said:

Finally a HD model for SU-76I!! You could have also buffed it too!  :trollface:

 

 

 

That would be good, if i could actually buy 1......:harp:

0b3rst #47 Posted 09 November 2016 - 06:13 PM

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All jolly good, but I find it a bit annoying that HD rework slowed down so much. 11 tanks in a patch?

radianter #48 Posted 09 November 2016 - 06:15 PM

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For the new overmatch mecianics, it's now doesn't depends on shell types? same angle with AP/APCR/HEAT?

Eila_Juutilainen #49 Posted 09 November 2016 - 06:18 PM

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View Postleggasiini, on 09 November 2016 - 06:06 PM, said:

Why it is like that? I mean, flat armor wont get real changes at all.

 

Exactly. If A gets buffed but B doesn't, then B is relatively worse off than before. Buffing all the tanks with sloped armour effectively nerfs the ones without.

Pettybo #50 Posted 09 November 2016 - 06:19 PM

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No more over matching is going to help lightly armoured curvy tanks like the Mutz to no end, must admit I'm rather looking forward to this.

FaustBulletGuN #51 Posted 09 November 2016 - 06:39 PM

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I'm glad to see, that my both FV4202 (P) and WZ-111 will get some buffs!I'd like to be amount those guys, that try every supertests first.How can I get access.I'd rather have that access to try every new tank and every new update.Thx

DoomMagnet #52 Posted 09 November 2016 - 07:06 PM

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Finally a buff to the lowe! Extra armor and depression is always welcome. It's armor is already decent but only if you can angle it well, though it takes a lot of time to master. Turret armor was the only thing holding it back from its full potential and now that it's finally buffed, I think i'll start playing it again!

Codis172 #53 Posted 09 November 2016 - 07:14 PM

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A buff for the Lowe is better than nothing, no speed buff or DPM buff.. Even the mantlet around the gun CAN get penetrated (Note: not the side of the hull around gun mantlet!)

 

I welcome the buffs to Wz and FV4202, I like the WZ and it has become better and it has limited mm! I run the Wz with stabiliser and GLD to cope with the poor acc and aiming.



Isharial #54 Posted 09 November 2016 - 07:37 PM

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View PostEila_Juutilainen, on 09 November 2016 - 05:53 PM, said:

I don't get why M4 Rev gets it's already unhistorical gun depression increased even more, while Panther88 keeps it's crappy gun depression.

 

Also, not sure if I would have buffed the Rev in that way. The mobility is welcome, but I rather would have had 220-230mm pen on the APCR instead. It's already terrible against sloped armour, which you're buffing even more.

 

 

Also also: RIP any tank with flat armour I guess?

 

the pen is workable imo, the gun depression kills it slightly for me, as well as the sluggish mobility, overall, i like this buff more than i would just a 30mm pen APCR one

 

overall, its a buff, and i accept it



Cobra6 #55 Posted 09 November 2016 - 07:43 PM

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The only real buff the Lowe needs, just like the T34, is for their DPM to be brought in line with all new T8 premium heavy tanks, that is to say around 2000DPM

 

Both these tanks are still balanced according to the 2011 doctrine of this game with a meagre ~1600DPM which is simply not cutting it anymore.

 

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Also, overmatch "fixing" like this will mean that tanks like IS-3/IS-4 will have their turret weakspot (the only real one) removed completely. Because yes, the IS-3 needed further buffing apparently.

 

Will you STOP making this game more tomato friendly already because already drivers hardly need any braincells to drive heavy tanks like the IS-3/T110E5 effectively and now you are removing even less of this requirement.

 

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Edited by Cobra6, 09 November 2016 - 07:55 PM.


Thrael7 #56 Posted 09 November 2016 - 07:51 PM

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crapprems needed some love. Powercreep, comrade...

Don't have Ravioli, Lowe or FV4202 and I won't be buying them either. They needed sth at least.

 

As for IS3 roof overmatch... just LULZ WG :teethhappy::teethhappy::teethhappy:



Maxxym10 #57 Posted 09 November 2016 - 08:01 PM

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View PostTijgernootTank, on 09 November 2016 - 03:28 PM, said:

The game needs new maps . Now u keep on reworking minimaps like it means something.

Last patch had Paris map , but that map was not realy new , and because of sad circumstances it was also released later

then intended .

Meanwhile nothing much seems to happen regarding new maps .

 

 

 

What he said.

 

Plus we would actually like to see the new maps, seen Paris about 4 times in 200 games. Stop wasting time on pointless tinkering with minimaps\(I dont see any useful difference anyway) and use the time to do something useful.



Sharp1903 #58 Posted 09 November 2016 - 08:04 PM

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Löwe's that make hulldowns on hills will kick our asses :( 

Thrael7 #59 Posted 09 November 2016 - 08:09 PM

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View PostSharp1903, on 09 November 2016 - 09:04 PM, said:

Löwe's that make hulldowns on hills will kick our asses :( 

Tell that to your teammates who will die fast and leave u alone when the enemy flank your ridgeline hulldown



Bad_Mad_Dog #60 Posted 09 November 2016 - 08:19 PM

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What about Löwe acceleration, in current state its acceleration is in a state like half dead horse, it realy suffers in acceleration.




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