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Vedrano #1 Posted 22 November 2016 - 03:11 PM

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Hi

 

Where can i make a official complain about this tank? I feel screwd for 99 euro's with the last 9.16 patch. 

Every battle i play with it is T4, While the tank is T3/4 Matchmaker. But you never get T3 battles, seriously never :/ 

 

From my last 20 batles it was 20 times tier 4, this is pure scam. Before 9.16 it's was a normal mix between T3/4, but now it's screwd and unfair, because at T3 your a king, at T4 everybody kills you easy, soo this tank is useless now and i feel conned :/

 

Before 9.16 i was every once in a while toptier, but now every match is bottom of the list T4 

 

 


Edited by Vedrano, 22 November 2016 - 03:12 PM.


Kalkalash #2 Posted 22 November 2016 - 03:37 PM

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Your pay-to-win tank isn't working anymore? What a shame...

Eokokok #3 Posted 22 November 2016 - 03:41 PM

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Blame the tonk for playing when noone is interested at playing tier 3. Because there tonks like 2J there... So basically you are blaming yourself for being shitty enough to get one yourself. Nice work, now go punish yourself with permaban.

Vedrano #4 Posted 22 November 2016 - 03:43 PM

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View PostKalkalash, on 22 November 2016 - 03:37 PM, said:

Your pay-to-win tank isn't working anymore? What a shame...

 

Ha ha ha, funny :)

 

I have 70 tanks, premium and normal, the issue is when you pay for something ( limited MM & fun tank ) and both things are screwd because of the MM, Then you have the right to be pissed off. 



d0esntmatter #5 Posted 22 November 2016 - 04:13 PM

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I don't know should i laugh or feel sorry for you (for spending 100 euros on a tier 3 tank). I'll just laugh

Traangas #6 Posted 22 November 2016 - 04:19 PM

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Concering randomized MM as of explained by WoT, this should not be a normal trend, but can be somewhat logically explained by the game mechanics:

 

There are way less 2-3 or only tier 3 battles on average than there are battles ranging from tier 3-4 or 3-4-5. 

Maybe the limit on its MM and the 'light' tank parameter are making it necessary in higher tier games, based on the hidden parameters used by WoT to make 'evenly balanced' battles.

 

It's parameter should be adjusted, either it needs higher pen/different gun or a change in hidden parameter

 

Other than that; it sucks.


Edited by Traangas, 22 November 2016 - 04:20 PM.


73north #7 Posted 22 November 2016 - 05:38 PM

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The thing is that I agree with the original poster that the Pz II J is a rip off ( I was dumb enough to buy one last year ) - its totally situational

as you using a Tier 1 gun on a Tier 3 Tank - so that is just a bad joke from war gaming - and its to force you to keep buying more gold ammo !

I also rapidly sold mine as you never get a Tier 3 / Tier 2 MM except once in  a blue moon -

I sadly feel that poor guys that buy the product now  - my advice always research the subject about the premium tank - it really pays to look at reviews and stats

anyone wanting a decent Tier 3 German Premium Tank that you never need gold ammo expect against Tier 5 opponents - buy the T-15 !



FatWang #8 Posted 22 November 2016 - 06:23 PM

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Oh dear...

Your seal clubbing doesn't work effectively anymore? Maybe because WG is making you use APCR to feed WG's addiction. 



Punisher_GR_ #9 Posted 22 November 2016 - 06:28 PM

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This tank don't cost 99 EUR you got gold for that and the Tank free just to make it clear , now all the tanks tier 3 are weak against higher tier this same happen to artys low tier playing vs 5 tiers don't do nothing moste the times the MM in very low tier is moste unbalance I'm able to accept this but from other side what you will like playing always against tier I to tier III will be very unfair for new players Pz II J is overpowered in tier III and less.Just accept is don't whine about 99 Eur because you got the tank for Free!!!

Vedrano #10 Posted 22 November 2016 - 06:46 PM

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View PostTraangas, on 22 November 2016 - 04:19 PM, said:

There are way less 2-3 or only tier 3 battles on average than there are battles ranging from tier 3-4 or 3-4-5. 

Maybe the limit on its MM and the 'light' tank parameter are making it necessary in higher tier games, based on the hidden parameters used by WoT to make 'evenly balanced' battles.

 

 

 

Yeah, but still it sucks, whatever the reason is, it's not fair. It's a T3 tank so it should play T3 battles 2. Valentine II is a T4 tank only, MK VIC is a T2 tank only, then they sould made the Ausf J a T4 MM only and you know what you get and can expect. 

 

When you suck in a tank or fail with it you can't blame no one, but this tank is killed by the MM even before you start a match. T4 battles are impossible to win, 95% depends on your team and you are useless, T3 matches your a king and win allot. So in theory it's 1 bad 1 good tier and that's fair, but when your stuck in one tier and a impossible one 2, of course you have all the reasons too be mad. 

 

And for everyone crying about the 99e, yes i needed the gold and yes i wanted this tank, so 2 times yes. 

 

 

 

 



Orkbert #11 Posted 25 November 2016 - 04:00 PM

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I suggest learning how to play it when not being top tiered, there are still enough tanks at tier IV which you can damage, and many of them will have trouble with your armor.

Laatikkomafia #12 Posted 25 November 2016 - 04:44 PM

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View PostVedrano, on 22 November 2016 - 04:11 PM, said:

Hi

 

Where can i make a official complain about this tank? I feel screwd for 99 euro's with the last 9.16 patch. 

Every battle i play with it is T4, While the tank is T3/4 Matchmaker. But you never get T3 battles, seriously never :/ 

 

From my last 20 batles it was 20 times tier 4, this is pure scam. Before 9.16 it's was a normal mix between T3/4, but now it's screwd and unfair, because at T3 your a king, at T4 everybody kills you easy, soo this tank is useless now and i feel conned :/

 

Before 9.16 i was every once in a while toptier, but now every match is bottom of the list T4 

 

 

 

*I only have 66% WR with it, I want to get at least 80% mimimi :arta:"

Edited by Laatikkomafia, 25 November 2016 - 04:46 PM.


SirDixie #13 Posted 25 November 2016 - 05:21 PM

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View PostVedrano, on 22 November 2016 - 02:11 PM, said:

Hi

 

Where can i make a official complain about this tank? I feel screwd for 99 euro's with the last 9.16 patch. 

Every battle i play with it is T4, While the tank is T3/4 Matchmaker. But you never get T3 battles, seriously never :/ 

 

From my last 20 batles it was 20 times tier 4, this is pure scam. Before 9.16 it's was a normal mix between T3/4, but now it's screwd and unfair, because at T3 your a king, at T4 everybody kills you easy, soo this tank is useless now and i feel conned :/

 

Before 9.16 i was every once in a while toptier, but now every match is bottom of the list T4 

 

 

 

You don't get to complain Comrade! You didn't buy the tank, you bought a load of gold and got the tank thrown in for free ;)

 

You dirty sealclubber :P;)



lemthepimpmeard #14 Posted 25 November 2016 - 06:17 PM

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You are getting mostly tier 4 games because WG brought in newbie protection some time ago. This means you are kept away from the noobs with 50% crews who don't know how to deal with a PzII Ausf J



d0esntmatter #15 Posted 25 November 2016 - 08:24 PM

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I love how WGs butchered PzKpfw 38H and Pz II J by giving them really high MM weight values. Less wannabe pros slaughtering lower tiers. Now its time to nerf M2 Light and let new players enjoy the lower tiers, because im sure they are not enjoying tier 2 right now.

73north #16 Posted 26 November 2016 - 06:23 PM

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no-one wants to willingly play Tier 2 as you get awful maps , like Mittengard and have to cope with OP autoloaders -

lemthepimpmeard #17 Posted 28 November 2016 - 03:30 PM

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I met one yesterday on Mines in my Panzer III E (yes I was sealclubbing but I'm honest about it) he did no damage to me while I pumped shot after shot into him. :trollface:

250swb #18 Posted 29 November 2016 - 12:43 AM

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I've been playing my Pz.IIJ recently (bought the gold but never started playing the 'free' tank) and yes it does see tier IV, but I don't know what all the whining is about. A tier IV game can see a couple of kills even though it is impossible to pen most of the tanks at tier IV. But in eleven games I got 33 kills and half were tier IV games.  I don't call that a bad average although others may want or expect more. Like many tanks in the game MM can be dependant on time of day and how many people are available to fill up a tier III game, just as some times a tier VIII tank can be always seeing tier X because there aren't enough players to make it top tier very often. So the best times to play it are the busiest and after a slow start the crew is getting better and I think I'm at about 57% WR which seems consistently doable.

Edited by 250swb, 29 November 2016 - 12:48 AM.


StuffKnight #19 Posted 29 November 2016 - 12:49 AM

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Get in a platoon with a pair of T-127 players. Go have fun.

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View PostStuffKnight, on 28 November 2016 - 11:49 PM, said:

Get in a platoon with a pair of T-127 players. Go have fun.

 

Well yeah, you are probably right, it would need two T-127 to deal with a IIJ, but I wouldn't put money on the outcome.




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