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Dr_Mokka #41 Posted 14 December 2016 - 11:22 AM

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View Postpussinbootsraffy, on 14 December 2016 - 11:02 AM, said:

121b has 2393 DPM / 2899 DPM (with BIA, Vents, Rammer and food)

M60 has 2773 DPM / 3360 DPM (with BIA, Vents, Rammer and food)

So Eff values 380 difference and full options 461 difference.

As said before, small dpm buff would put it over the M60.

I am not comparing it to the regular T10 meds, but with the reward ones.

Also having better armor then the m60 means it can take more of a beating so should last longer on the field.

 

Still not sure what I will pick, M60 or 121B. Decisions, decisions.

 

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Cobra6 #42 Posted 14 December 2016 - 11:46 AM

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View Postpussinbootsraffy, on 14 December 2016 - 10:02 AM, said:

121b has 2393 DPM / 2899 DPM (with BIA, Vents, Rammer and food)

M60 has 2773 DPM / 3360 DPM (with BIA, Vents, Rammer and food)

So Eff values 380 difference and full options 461 difference.

As said before, small dpm buff would put it over the M60.

I am not comparing it to the regular T10 meds, but with the reward ones.

Also having better armor then the m60 means it can take more of a beating so should last longer on the field.

 

Still not sure what I will pick, M60 or 121B. Decisions, decisions.

 

Hmmm don't know, personally I value goldlike gunhandling over armour any day because it means you have to expose yourself much shorter to enemy fire to do damage.

Also, 10 degrees of gun depression.

 

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eldrak #43 Posted 14 December 2016 - 12:15 PM

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There's only one way to settle this. Pick one each and then it's duel to death in Himmelsdorf square.

Cobra6 #44 Posted 14 December 2016 - 12:21 PM

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View Posteldrak, on 14 December 2016 - 11:15 AM, said:

There's only one way to settle this. Pick one each and then it's duel to death in Himmelsdorf square.

 

Well.....then the M60 would win as it has the higher DPM XD Not really a duel.

 

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Dr_Mokka #45 Posted 14 December 2016 - 12:27 PM

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View PostCobra6, on 14 December 2016 - 12:21 PM, said:

 

Well.....then the M60 would win as it has the higher DPM XD Not really a duel.

 

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Raffy5 #46 Posted 14 December 2016 - 12:28 PM

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But gun handling is somewhat similar.

121b has:

0.29 dispersion

1.93s aim time

0.11 / 0.11 / 0.09 / 3.2 / 1.6 - moving / tank traverse / turret traverse / after firing / damaged

 

M60 has:

0.31 dispersion

1.58s aim time

0.08 / 0.08 / 0.07 / 2.8 / 1.6 - moving / tank traverse / turret traverse / after firing / damaged

 

I don't  see big differences, 121b has better dispersion while M60 has 0.02 - 0.03 better stats on the other thingies.



Cobra6 #47 Posted 14 December 2016 - 12:55 PM

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View PostMcMokka, on 14 December 2016 - 11:27 AM, said:

 

yes DPM is key.

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In a duel on a flat square......yeah it is.

 

He didn't say the duel would be fought on Dragons Ridge now did he? :teethhappy:

 

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Yeah they are similar but the M60 has better values on pretty much all things *and* 10 degrees of gun depression meaning you can use it in more "day to day" situations compared to the 121B.

 

Thing is, if the 121B is buffed at some point you can always get it next campaign if it's worth it.

Additionally none of the Chinese mediums are used in competitive play while the US ones are (Pershing and sometimes T69) so for crew training the M60 would also be the better choice.

 

 

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Raffy5 #48 Posted 14 December 2016 - 01:22 PM

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View PostCobra6, on 14 December 2016 - 01:55 PM, said:

 

In a duel on a flat square......yeah it is.

 

He didn't say the duel would be fought on Dragons Ridge now did he? :teethhappy:

 

Puss:

Yeah they are similar but the M60 has better values on pretty much all things *and* 10 degrees of gun depression meaning you can use it in more "day to day" situations compared to the 121B.

 

Thing is, if the 121B is buffed at some point you can always get it next campaign if it's worth it.

Additionally none of the Chinese mediums are used in competitive play while the US ones are (Pershing and sometimes T69) so for crew training the M60 would also be the better choice.

 

 

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What better choice, every clan I was in when someone would pick M60 in SH - he got insta - NO crapTONKU :D

 



Cobra6 #49 Posted 14 December 2016 - 01:36 PM

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View Postpussinbootsraffy, on 14 December 2016 - 12:22 PM, said:

 

What better choice, every clan I was in when someone would pick M60 in SH - he got insta - NO crapTONKU :D

 

 

Just like you will with the 121B :teethhappy:

 

Still the M60 trains your Pershing crew better than the 121B would ;)

 

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