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DetectedDutchDanger #1 Posted 13 December 2016 - 07:40 AM

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Hello Fellow tankers,

 

I was wondering if The 121B is worth it to choose as cw reward tank, because it has very good stats, well unless you count The Gun stats... But does anybody know if it will get a buff?!

 

Thanks for answering and Carry Hard!

 

 

 


Edited by DetectedDutchDanger, 13 December 2016 - 07:41 AM.


leggasiini #2 Posted 13 December 2016 - 08:43 AM

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I was wondering if The 121B is worth it to choose as cw reward tank

 

no

 

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because it has very good stats

 Not really. Solid UFP...and thats about it. Mobility is not bad but below average for medium tank. 121 is already sluggish and 121b has even worse p/w ratio. Turret armor is solid but its significantly worse than RU med turrets or even 121 turret. Looking at it, it looks kinda butter against HEAT. Depression is better than 121 but -5 still kinda sucks.

 

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well unless you count The Gun stats

 

Sad but true. Why WG even gave it that bad DPM is beyond my knowledge. 

 

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But does anybody know if it will get a buff?!

 

 

Probably, the T96E6 got buff later on aswell, and VK 7201K will get megabuffed someday (if its super test buffs passes).


Edited by leggasiini, 13 December 2016 - 08:45 AM.


Svitman #3 Posted 13 December 2016 - 08:50 AM

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Well, they buffed 907 when all people said to WG multiple times that its weak, but 121B is not as bad as was 907 before, so we can just hope for the buff


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DetectedDutchDanger #4 Posted 13 December 2016 - 03:08 PM

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First of all thanks for the fast reactions, and what doe you think The best choise will be? I Have All russian meds in my garage/researched so I dont think The 907 will be a good tank to choose and my clan isnt focussing on T10 CW either.

FjeIIreven #5 Posted 14 December 2016 - 06:42 PM

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There's really no competition: http://tanks.gg/wot/compare#t:121b.c:t-62a.c:obj-140.c:obj-907

 

I would say even some tier 9 mediums are competitive: http://tanks.gg/wot/compare#t:121b.c:m46-patton.c:e-50.c:type-61.c:amx-30

 

So in practice, the 121B is a tier 9 medium with anti-preferential matchmaking -- a tier 9 medium with more HP, but that is always bottom tier against tier 10s.


Edited by FjeIIreven, 14 December 2016 - 06:49 PM.


Mr_Dikinson #6 Posted 15 December 2016 - 05:04 PM

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Just buff it wg...

maroar #7 Posted 15 December 2016 - 05:16 PM

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907 buff was announced before it came out.

It did not get given out in a weak version.

 

The T95E6 got given out and buffed afterwards, the buffs did nothing and it is still the worst T10 in the game, it is worse than the old T10 FV4202 which was (one of) the worst T10s, M48 got buffed so this alone is now the worst T10 tank AND IT GOT BUFFED.

Don't get your hopes up, you see what they gave out as T8 rewards, the chieftain is horrible, the KV4 kres. is horrible and the fact they put out far superior tanks in the premium shop (patriot and liberte) just shows you the idea WG has about rewards.



belkov #8 Posted 15 December 2016 - 05:36 PM

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121B is worse than T95E6....gun handling is good, but the DPM (and still gun depression) absolutely kills it.

HBox #9 Posted 17 December 2016 - 03:19 PM

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has it is now no

its not worth a cup of cold piss

the dpm is so bad. a crew member dies with ever hit it takes. mobility is limited.gun handling is average and is not very fast

 

needs a buff pronto

wg have manage to piss me of yet again with total garbage of a reward tank  

 



H2LaChips #10 Posted 18 December 2016 - 05:50 PM

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And front turret armor is useless...

Y_O_L_0 #11 Posted 22 December 2016 - 01:24 PM

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I chose the 121B, I had a Chinese 6 skill crew. I quite enjoy the tank, it's  fun and I think it is worth it. Though I enjoy the Chieftain/T95 as well, and everybody who I know says that the Chieftain/T95 sucks. I am playing this game for fun and I don't care for stats or performance, if you want a tank that performs well then get the Obj. 907. For fun you can get the 121B or M60 and maybe the VK72. (but in my oppinion for a Chinese medium tank you need a 5 skill crew to make it work)

Th3Grimmi #12 Posted 25 December 2016 - 12:23 PM

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It feels like the 121B has an increased credit income as a tier 10 tank

Y_O_L_0 #13 Posted 25 December 2016 - 11:53 PM

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View PostTh3Grimmi, on 25 December 2016 - 11:23 AM, said:

It feels like the 121B has an increased credit income as a tier 10 tank

 

It doesn't, you just got used to the last stage of the campaign where you could lose 50k+ credits [non-premium) every battle and then you play the 121B only shooting APCR and normally with 4k damage you can make 20k+ profit [non-premium). Not to mention you could easily lose 100k+ credits each battle with the T-54 ltwt [if you don't lose 100k credits with the T-54 ltwt in CW then you aren't pulling your weight :P ).

 

It doesn't make more credits then other tier 10's, my T-62A makes as much profit as a tier 6 premium tank.



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View PostY_O_L_0, on 25 December 2016 - 11:53 PM, said:

 

It doesn't, you just got used to the last stage of the campaign where you could lose 50k+ credits [non-premium) every battle and then you play the 121B only shooting APCR and normally with 4k damage you can make 20k+ profit [non-premium). Not to mention you could easily lose 100k+ credits each battle with the T-54 ltwt [if you don't lose 100k credits with the T-54 ltwt in CW then you aren't pulling your weight :P ).

 

It doesn't make more credits then other tier 10's, my T-62A makes as much profit as a tier 6 premium tank.

 

I looked after all my uploaded replays with tier 10 tanks and similar scores, and I havent taken the nettoproduct (outcome) into consideration, only the bruttoproduct (money without ammocosts etc.).

 

http://wotreplays.co...3189256#details



Y_O_L_0 #15 Posted 26 December 2016 - 10:18 AM

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View PostTh3Grimmi, on 26 December 2016 - 02:01 AM, said:

 

I looked after all my uploaded replays with tier 10 tanks and similar scores, and I havent taken the nettoproduct (outcome) into consideration, only the bruttoproduct (money without ammocosts etc.).

 

http://wotreplays.co...3189256#details

 

You have 8k damage combined in that battle, for 8k combined you get 78k credits [without premium account) with any tier 10. Tier 10 reward tanks don't make extra credits.

Th3Grimmi #16 Posted 26 December 2016 - 11:11 AM

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View PostY_O_L_0, on 26 December 2016 - 10:18 AM, said:

 

You have 8k damage combined in that battle, for 8k combined you get 78k credits [without premium account) with any tier 10

I know that tier 10 rewards dont make extra credits, I have all except of the M60 Statpatton. Yet still it feels like that particular one, the 121B makes a bit more than the others.

I mean, prove me wrong but I have some similar games with way less income.

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Th3Grimmi #17 Posted 27 December 2016 - 04:32 AM

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And look after the last point of this post: https://thearmoredpa...morrow-on-ru-2/

 



Y_O_L_0 #18 Posted 27 December 2016 - 05:13 PM

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Thanks Grimmi for posting the link. I didn't even think that WarGaming can do such a mistake as giving premium credit making ability for tier 10 tanks.

 

I could always make a 20k~ profit with the 121B, non-premium account and only shooting APCR. But after this update I am curious whether I will be able to consistently make 20k profit with the 121B. Very curious.

 

Unless:

– Profitability of the 121B was set to parameters normal for CW reward tanks.

...unless this means that CW reward tanks make slightly more credits then the normal tier 10 ones, and WG increased the credit coefficient of the 121B. The problem with WarGaming is that they post something and do something totally different. Like with the Chieftain/T95, they told us it would make extra credits, and then the event ended and voila the Chieftain/T95 does not make extra credits, of course they fixed it, but still. This is what I call a full of shiit company.

 

 






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