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_Bolt #1 Posted 09 January 2017 - 08:28 PM

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This tanks are beast, impenetrable. WTF cant' penetrate with GOLD ???

SmellyOne #2 Posted 09 January 2017 - 08:32 PM

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View Post_Bolt, on 09 January 2017 - 08:28 PM, said:

This tanks are beast, impenetrable. WTF cant' penetrate with GOLD ???

 

Im grinding Emil 2 right now. And let me tell you. Those tanks have ONLY one good thing. Turret armor, you will not pen it.

 

Apart from that they have low penetration, only 4 shots in the clip, and very long reload time (Emil 2 is like 38 seconds).

 

If they are in hull down, dont even bother, you wont pen them, only Jpz E100 or E3/4 can pen them with gold ammo (well Emil 2, Emil 1 has weaker turret).



bluedog_8_1 #3 Posted 09 January 2017 - 09:18 PM

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Agreed with _BOLT. Can't pen with GOLD even on Liberte. Next time I see one I'll scoot off elsewhere. Probably the only non scout tank you'll ever need.

Wayneable #4 Posted 09 January 2017 - 09:32 PM

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And here we go again. New heavy tanks comes into the game and everybody will be saying how op it is and it needs to be Nerf, and so on.

Happens every time, Until people learn to deal with them.

 

Or until enough cry babies get WG to nerf them. Thats easier then learn how to beat them.



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View PostSmellyOne, on 09 January 2017 - 08:32 PM, said:

 

Im grinding Emil 2 right now. And let me tell you. Those tanks have ONLY one good thing. Turret armor, you will not pen it.

 

Apart from that they have low penetration, only 4 shots in the clip, and very long reload time (Emil 2 is like 38 seconds).

 

If they are in hull down, dont even bother, you wont pen them, only Jpz E100 or E3/4 can pen them with gold ammo (well Emil 2, Emil 1 has weaker turret).

 

Really? im getting shot threw the gun mantle thing on the front all the time. on flat ground its a trash tank because the turret is much weaker, it NEEDS a hill to aim the stupidly bad gun. bad pen on both rounds standard AND gold. ice age gun handling. and IS-3 just sh*ts on it because it can snap you and you have to pray to RNGesus your gun even hits let alone pens the hull.

Edited by Fluffy_The_Destroyer, 09 January 2017 - 09:55 PM.


HolgerDK #6 Posted 10 January 2017 - 10:33 AM

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View Post_Bolt, on 09 January 2017 - 08:28 PM, said:

This tanks are beast, impenetrable. WTF cant' penetrate with GOLD ???

 

Learn to flank.

Johann_von_Goethe #7 Posted 10 January 2017 - 11:50 AM

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View PostHolgerDK, on 10 January 2017 - 10:33 AM, said:

 

Learn to flank.

 

THIS!!!

SmellyOne #8 Posted 10 January 2017 - 02:41 PM

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T71 just shot me in Emil 2 through the hull 30 meters away twice, first show kills driver, second shot kills ammo rack.

 

Thats how strong these tanks are.



Rtz_Wayttian #9 Posted 10 January 2017 - 07:30 PM

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View Post_Bolt, on 09 January 2017 - 07:28 PM, said:

This tanks are beast, impenetrable. WTF cant' penetrate with GOLD ???

 

Emil 2 is far from OP, I can almost say that it's UP (underpowered) in it's current state, it has 2 strengts (Gun dep and Turret), and everything else is trash. But, like your pseudo say, u are a bo(l)t, so u just stay in front when he is hulldown (just joking man, don't get crazy :) ). Really, i'm serious, this tank is bad compare to french/american autoloader, it's doesn't fit in any situation except hulldown, wich is maybe 25% of the time at top.

Hunny #10 Posted 10 January 2017 - 10:16 PM

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Why is this at the Medium forum and not the heavy one? Emil's are heavy tanks.

 

Aaaaah, cos its broken.. nwm


Edited by Hunny, 10 January 2017 - 10:23 PM.


conductiv #11 Posted 11 January 2017 - 06:09 AM

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flank with HE if atoll possible, HE derp turretring/under the gun for token damage if you absolutely have to. emil1 hull is extremely weak for SPG hits, derp and HESH guns.

 

unlike the american power turrets you cannot gold your way through reliably nor do you have the ability to hit weak-spots (as the turret has none) 



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Yesterday Emil II finished my IS-7 at hull down position with my bad skills. However i can say that Emil II platoon can be very dangerous at many maps. 

 

Even i can penetrate Maus from turret, why Emill II's front turret is nearly unpenetrable? This is unfair...



SmellyOne #13 Posted 11 January 2017 - 07:29 PM

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View Post207GT, on 11 January 2017 - 10:23 AM, said:

Yesterday Emil II finished my IS-7 at hull down position with my bad skills. However i can say that Emil II platoon can be very dangerous at many maps. 

 

Even i can penetrate Maus from turret, why Emill II's front turret is nearly unpenetrable? This is unfair...

 

Its a turret armor build tank.

 

This is all it has.

 

It has 4 shots clip of ~400 damage each. And then 38!!!! seconds reload.

 

It also has cheese like non-turret hull.

 

So if there is one in hull down before you, let it empty its clip (remember only 4 shots) and then go and murder it. Or go around it. Or spam he at it while in a hull down position yourself. Emil 2 doesnt have enough penetration to pen turret front on most tier 9+ tanks.


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_Bolt #14 Posted 07 May 2017 - 06:58 PM

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I've got Emil I. Sorry for this topic it's NOT OP it's a normal tank :).

 

"Every tank is OP until you got him"



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View Post_Bolt, on 09 January 2017 - 07:28 PM, said:

This tanks are beast, impenetrable. WTF cant' penetrate with GOLD ???

 

emil 1 turret is cheese (is3 standard round will go thru without issue), also learn to flank

s0r1n3l #16 Posted 08 May 2017 - 07:14 AM

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Don`t shoot the angled front side, you can pen it fine under the gun or at those small cheeks if you have no option to flank. Hell you can even hit the comander spot, the hitbox is bigger than expected.

Kooallu #17 Posted 08 May 2017 - 08:40 AM

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i bought emil 1 couple days ago and i didnt like it at all, veryslow top and turning speed, all stats in gun are bad, hull is weak, only strong turret

Hohumm4sh3d #18 Posted 10 May 2017 - 02:40 PM

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Emil 2's turret btw turns like a dog as well.  As long as it's not full down and facing forward anything else is fine. 

 



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View PostKooallu, on 08 May 2017 - 07:40 AM, said:

i bought emil 1 couple days ago and i didnt like it at all, veryslow top and turning speed, all stats in gun are bad, hull is weak, only strong turret

 

And then you realise T29 turret is better 1 tier lower and wonder why emil1 even exists.

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View PostSearch_Warrant, on 10 May 2017 - 03:00 PM, said:

 

And then you realise T29 turret is better 1 tier lower and wonder why emil1 even exists.

nice maid dragon references






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