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Update 9.17.1: Renewed Strongholds


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Community #1 Posted 02 February 2017 - 04:26 PM

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The upcoming patch will introduce some significant changes to the game mode. Make sure to check out what's new!

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Folau #2 Posted 02 February 2017 - 04:29 PM

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 Here, we’ll replace the 10-vs-10 format with 7-vs-7 battles for detachments in Tier VIII vehicles. So, Skirmishes will include three battle formats: 7-vs-7 for Tier VI vehicles, 7-vs-7 for Tier VIII vehicles, and 15-vs-15 for Tier X vehicles. 

 

What the hell? Why?


Edited by Folau, 02 February 2017 - 04:31 PM.


Shnuks #3 Posted 02 February 2017 - 04:36 PM

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View PostFolau, on 02 February 2017 - 04:29 PM, said:

 

What the hell? Why?

 

This. Who the hell asked for this!? If clans can't get members they can play teir 6, not to mention with the addition to add members of other clans this isn't such of a problem. Let's make tier 8 even less tactical!!!!

Folau #4 Posted 02 February 2017 - 04:38 PM

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View PostShnuks, on 02 February 2017 - 03:36 PM, said:

 

This. Who the hell asked for this!? If clans can't get members they can play teir 6, not to mention with the addition to add members of other clans this isn't such of a problem. Let's make tier 8 even less tactical!!!!

 

It also matches the CW format at present, so you can practice as a group in SH.

 

Seriously, no idea what the point of this is.



HadurHun #5 Posted 02 February 2017 - 04:43 PM

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Who cares?
Strongholds and Clan Wars are the reason I quit the clans!
They are slowing the grind!
They turn gameplay into a job!
They cause more stress than work!
It ruins game economy!

Edited by HadurHun, 02 February 2017 - 04:44 PM.


mArtinko5MB #6 Posted 02 February 2017 - 04:47 PM

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View PostHadurHun, on 02 February 2017 - 04:43 PM, said:

Who cares?
Strongholds and Clan Wars are the reason I quit the clans!
They are slowing the grind!
They turn gameplay into a job!
They cause more stress than work!
It ruins game economy!

 

You've got some quality dope right there my friend

Endranii_PL #7 Posted 02 February 2017 - 04:49 PM

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 Here, we’ll replace the 10-vs-10 format with 7-vs-7 battles for detachments in Tier VIII vehicles. So, Skirmishes will include three battle formats: 7-vs-7 for Tier VI vehicles, 7-vs-7 for Tier VIII vehicles, and 15-vs-15 for Tier X vehicles. 

But this thing here is just a slap in the face to all of us who had played the game from the very beginning... From the time i can remember it was always 10v10 on t8 matches but now you suddenly make it 7v7? Like why? And who even called such change? It's breaking the working meta yet again when there was nothing wrong with it?  Unless you want us to stop playing arta in t8 matches?

 

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  • Battles begin at a fixed time and matching is automated, so it’s impossible to choose a certain clan to attack. Instead, you get matched against a clan from the queue, members of which have the closest skill level to your clan members.

 I hope that the fixed time will be during the CW hours so we wont see some "warriors" doing rigged battles at 10am or something.

 

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  • Clans can invite legionnaires to their Advance detachments.

 

This thing is pointless as this mode should be akin to the CW mode not Skirmishes. 

 

 



Cobra6 #8 Posted 02 February 2017 - 04:50 PM

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 Here, we’ll replace the 10-vs-10 format with 7-vs-7 battles for detachments in Tier VIII vehicles. So, Skirmishes will include three battle formats: 7-vs-7 for Tier VI vehicles, 7-vs-7 for Tier VIII vehicles, and 15-vs-15 for Tier X vehicles. 

 

What the hell? People wanted 15 vs 15 for T8 and maybe even T6. Why the hell are you making it 7-vs-7?

 

Are you even listening Wargaming!?

 

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Griva #9 Posted 02 February 2017 - 04:55 PM

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View PostCobra6, on 02 February 2017 - 03:50 PM, said:

 

What the hell? People wanted 15 vs 15 for T8 and maybe even T6. Why the hell are you making it 7-vs-7?

 

Are you even listening Wargaming!?

 

Cobra 6

 

Actually I personally never heard that someone complain for 10v10 format.

or rather i heard but in completly other direction - to 15v15... WTF?



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2011-2014:      t8 15v15

2014-2017:      t8 10v10

2017-20??:      t8 7v7

 

whats next 1v1?



Folau #11 Posted 02 February 2017 - 04:58 PM

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I won't even bother with T8 7v7, which is a shame as T8 SH is basically my favourite gamemode - a nice balance of individual and team play.

 

Plus if you are short of people you can get 5 legionnaires on anyway, so there's no excuse for being so unpopular that you can't get 10 people on. T6 exists for chill and 7v7, which I only play for credits never enjoyment.

 

Cheers WG - now [edited]off back to the drawing board. 


Edited by Folau, 02 February 2017 - 05:00 PM.


WunderWurst #12 Posted 02 February 2017 - 04:58 PM

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A question here: Why did you change the 10vs10 skirmishes to 7vs7? Because you want to make people more farmiliar with the "E-sports" mode? Lets be honest here. This game super far away from being a good "E-sports" game and we all know that.

It doesnt even change alot but why!? It is not like clan which cannot even field 10 guys on tier 10 will have much success in skirmishes to begin with. Also that makes these modes even more skill dependent and they will struggle even more with these kind of skirmishes. As I see it its a pointless changes, making it worse for the "good" clans and even worse for the "bad" clan. I would predict this change will have the exact opposite effect than what it is intended to be.

 

Well there are no numbers in that. A lot of words but nothing specific. Time will tell. I just hope that you dont completely screw up the better clans with the attitude "Everyone is a winner!". That would be really sad as I always understood Stronghold battles (skirmishes and battles for the Stronghold (now Advances)) are meant to be endgame content for the more COMPETETIVE part of the community. I.E. Tier 11 and 12 boni should be vastly superior to the current tier 10 boni. If thats not the case why would have the clans even bother engaging each other.


Edited by WundeWurst, 02 February 2017 - 05:03 PM.


Dr_Oolen #13 Posted 02 February 2017 - 04:58 PM

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kek top,

 

5x is3, 2x t54lt incoming in every single game, including from clans that didnt even go full tryhard yet. Way to go WG. Not only did no one ask about anything like this, but it also completely ruins any diversity that t8 sh still had. But i guess its all in the name of introducing more RNG into the game so that good clans can no longer get 85%+ WR unless they go tryhard aswell. Gotta get everyone to 50% wr so that everyone can have all of nothing and WG can completely decide who gets what and how who plays the game.

 

 

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I am willing to give these changes a chance, even though I assume that it is just a way to fix the last available source of gold (War Department). A ladder might even spice things up a bit, especially if we can get unique rewards or possibly even the mythical stronghold store.

 

The tier 8 7vs7 changes are however simply horrendous and one of the worst ideas Wargaming has tried to implement in a long time.



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KEEP TIER 8 on 10vs10 FFS!!!! No one asked for that change. 

 

Are u even playing ur own game? Do u even realize that most maps are shitty to play in 7vs7? Do u even realize that there is no tactic at all, just yolo or camp? Can u please start playing ur own game, or atleast listen to people who play it? Can u stop beeing drunk all the time when u discuss changes in the game?


Edited by Olch, 02 February 2017 - 05:16 PM.


Fallschrimjaeger #16 Posted 02 February 2017 - 05:07 PM

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Some of us can barely have a seat in strongholds for play. If clan have better players online when they play stronghold they prefer these ones instead of lower players. Don't decrease the 10v10 to 7v7. Everyone wants to play don't decrease their chance in addition I want 12v12. Don't crush mid players to pro ones. We want to try our chance. 

Edited by Fallschrimjaeger, 02 February 2017 - 05:08 PM.


Manuel1324 #17 Posted 02 February 2017 - 05:12 PM

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View PostOlch, on 02 February 2017 - 05:07 PM, said:

KEEP TIER 8 on 10vs10 FFS!!!! :izmena::angry: No one asked for that change. :facepalm:

 

Are u even playing ur own game? Do u even realize that most maps are shitty to play in 7vs7? Do u even realize that there is no tactic at all, just yolo or camp? Can u please start playing ur own game, or atleast listen to people who play it? Can u stop beeing drunk all the time when u discuss changes in the game?

 

QfT

 

NONE ever asked for 7vs7 on tier 8. If anything of that topic ever occurred on the forum it was ppl asking for 10 vs 10 on tier 6 or 15 vs 15 for both. But this? This seems to be one of the worst ideas you ever came up with. :facepalm:



MobiusOne #18 Posted 02 February 2017 - 05:14 PM

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View PostFolau, on 02 February 2017 - 03:29 PM, said:

 

What the hell? Why?

 

View PostOlch, on 02 February 2017 - 04:07 PM, said:

KEEP TIER 8 on 10vs10 FFS!!!! :izmena::angry: No one asked for that change. :facepalm:

 

Are u even playing ur own game? Do u even realize that most maps are shitty to play in 7vs7? Do u even realize that there is no tactic at all, just yolo or camp? Can u please start playing ur own game, or atleast listen to people who play it? Can u stop beeing drunk all the time when u discuss changes in the game?

 

This, so much this



Serprotease #19 Posted 02 February 2017 - 05:16 PM

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Wg : So enjoying the new T8 sh ?

me :

 



McMokka #20 Posted 02 February 2017 - 05:20 PM

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Way too go, ruining the last fricking gamemode which is still fun in your game, WG.




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