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Is T-34-3 in your opinion balanced tier 8 medium ?

  1. Yes (34 votes [28.57%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 28.57%

  2. No (85 votes [71.43%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 71.43%

Would you buy T-34-3 for making credits ?

  1. Yes (35 votes [29.41%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 29.41%

  2. No (84 votes [70.59%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 70.59%

Would you buy T-34-3 for boosting Chinese crew ?

  1. Yes (66 votes [55.46%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 55.46%

  2. No (53 votes [44.54%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 44.54%

Wich tank would you buy firstly ?

  1. T-34-3 (21 votes [17.65%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 17.65%

  2. FV4202 (P) (8 votes [6.72%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 6.72%

  3. AMX CDC (11 votes [9.24%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 9.24%

  4. M4A1 Revalorise ? (40 votes [33.61%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 33.61%

  5. Some other (39 votes [32.77%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 32.77%

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jorn175 #41 Posted 28 February 2017 - 12:10 PM

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View Postnksh, on 27 February 2017 - 04:58 PM, said:

after 2k battles I found its best use on battlefield as something like heavy-scout hybrid (with optics instead of vents). Avoid notorious heavy tank clusters, chase scouts and lower tiers and provide initial spot for your team.

 

This is also true. But when people look to buy a tank and see it's a medium tank. They EXPECT a medium tank. And not a heavy-scout.

 

It NEEDS a rework. Just like what the Maus got. Or the T95 etc. As I said in my post above.



Scanmen #42 Posted 05 March 2017 - 02:49 PM

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View PostMarlekin, on 27 February 2017 - 04:15 PM, said:

... Wargaming offers you this life lesson for the insane price of only €40!!

 

 

You're right bro.... :teethhappy:  :teethhappy:  :teethhappy: :teethhappy:


Edited by Scanmen, 05 March 2017 - 02:50 PM.


Ankot #43 Posted 05 March 2017 - 05:36 PM

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This tank certainly does need some love from WG. The 112 is now a good tank, the WZ-111 is, the Type 59 is, but this tank sure as hell is not.

Akathis #44 Posted 05 March 2017 - 05:40 PM

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View Postdouglarse, on 26 February 2017 - 05:06 AM, said:

Thnx man, read this and took mines out for a spin.
 
Probably had my best game in the thing :D
 
Top tier its not so bad and it doesn't meet tier X. The gun can be shockingly bad at times but I have found 50% aim seems to work pretty well, thing is if you buff the pen on it you also buff the pen on so many other tanks that use the D-25T series guns. You just need to pick your fights well in it. But then I don't have as many games in it as you so you would know better.

 

When top tier, t-34-3 is a very, very bad tank if there are tier 8 heavies or armored tds in the enemy team.

 

EDIT: revalorisé is miles ahead of this thing, even when in a tier 10 match. FV has too low dpm to be competitive against t8 heavies, the same issue every other tier 8 medium has in this game. Even the recently buffed t-34-85m has more dpm than tier 8 meds.


Edited by Akathis, 05 March 2017 - 05:51 PM.


Ober__ #45 Posted 07 March 2017 - 02:48 PM

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View Postjorn175, on 28 February 2017 - 01:09 PM, said:

 

This is so savage but so true :teethhappy:

Again, they will remove this tank soon. Or they will buff it. One of the 2. As it has pref mm.
 

 

they will remove it for sure, cause WG wanna remove all pref MM tanks from shop. Also it will get some buff with HD model

Ankot #46 Posted 07 March 2017 - 03:35 PM

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View PostOberfuhr, on 07 March 2017 - 01:48 PM, said:

 

they will remove it for sure, cause WG wanna remove all pref MM tanks from shop. Also it will get some buff with HD model

 

​I really hope they do like they did on the 112. Remove it first, wait a month, and then buff it so it becomes pretty good.

 

I think it needs an aimtime and RoF buff, and some HD armour.



Razzupaltuff #47 Posted 07 March 2017 - 05:04 PM

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The bad gun depression just kills this tank. The low mobility just makes things worse. Imo, all WG would need to change to make this thing work is to make it fast and agile. If it was like that, I think I could even live with the non existent gun depression.

Radu_Korne #48 Posted 07 March 2017 - 05:36 PM

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The gun is horribly unsuited for a rather sluggish medium. It was a decent tank before the Patriot/Liberte/SkorpionGspot/Defender hordes arrived. Now it's just not that fun to play, not at all. I'd rather grind a crew in T-34-1 (even Type T-34) with boosters than play T-34-3...and T-34-1's gun isn't that good anyway. That says a lot, I find it appalling in comparison to M4 Rev for example. Yeah it has turret armor but that thing doesn't compensate the other weaknesses.

TheMarketGardener #49 Posted 07 March 2017 - 05:44 PM

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View PostVanHunten, on 07 March 2017 - 06:04 PM, said:

The bad gun depression just kills this tank. The low mobility just makes things worse. Imo, all WG would need to change to make this thing work is to make it fast and agile. If it was like that, I think I could even live with the non existent gun depression.

 

If you think it has bad gun deperssion now I bet you'd love it when it had -3 degrees...

 

View PostAnkot, on 07 March 2017 - 04:35 PM, said:

 

​I really hope they do like they did on the 112. Remove it first, wait a month, and then buff it so it becomes pretty good.

 

I think it needs an aimtime and RoF buff, and some HD armour.

 

 

I don't think it needs a RoF buff too badly, but it definitely needs aimtime and more mobility or more armor (Or both. Both is completely fine too.)


Edited by TheMarketGardener, 07 March 2017 - 09:10 PM.


____prophet____ #50 Posted 08 March 2017 - 11:50 PM

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The alpha damage is nice when I look at the tank objectively - it's my second highest DPG tier 8 prem tank because of the alpha. But it has no place in 2017 WoT because half the tanks you need to kill in an average battle you can't harm other than by spamming HE at them. The absolute worst thing about this tank is its unreliability. You have to expose yourself for such long periods of time to take a shot - and you only hit 50% and you pen 35% of what you hit. Aiming and gun handling buffs + slightly better mobility and it would be just fine.

Ankot #51 Posted 14 March 2017 - 07:05 PM

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View Postalisuorittaja, on 08 March 2017 - 10:50 PM, said:

You have to expose yourself for such long periods of time to take a shot - and you only hit 50% and you pen 35% of what you hit.

Unfortunately, this is very true.



Drahau #52 Posted 15 March 2017 - 01:39 PM

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Fun facts:

T-34-3 was advertised as Type 59 with a bigger gun, more armor and slower. Seriously the person in WG who advertised it like that should set himself on fire. Like now.

T-34-3 was burning like hey filled with propane but they changed that.

 

Other than that the t-34-3 is expensive and utter garbage. I mean back in the days where powercreep was not on such absurd levels and there was much more maps which didn't limit you to 3 corridors - this tank preformed mediocre. Now many tanks are faster, with better guns, armor, view range, accuracy etc. 1v1 this thing can barely handle a t54 mod not to mention other tanks.

It's too slow for a scout killer not to mention the epic 0.46 accuracy when FULLY AIMED. HEAT ammo sucks bad unless fired point blank. The turret armor sucks. Big hatches and ~200mm effective frontal armor.... IS-3 215 mm pen, Tiger II 225 mm pen, Lowe 234mm pen... I could go on and on. Not to mention that often you'll encounter the super medium T54 fireing that 330mm pen HEAT ammo three times before you even reload not to mention you won't go through his turret. Fun fact? Try dueling with a T54 ltw. It will rip you apart.

 

So, any redeeming qualities? No. It has none. Well, unless you're a masochist.

 

What would fix it?

Uhm.... Give it IS-3 top 122 gun with exact same stats (maybe buff the reload by 1 s so this thing will become dangerous). Turret armor and hp/t could use a slight buff too. Done. You now have hell of a medium tank that when you see it flanking you, all you can thing is "Oh crap...". 

 

Reason behind this?

The derp gun fail penetrate IS6 side armor 90% of the time, I even missed a Tiger I turret (exposed 100% of it) from ~70m .... It won't go through IS3 lower and upper plate, it will fail to penetrate side armor 90% of the time. Hitting a Tiger II in the LFP from over 100m is like winning the grand lottery. On an on I could go but I'll mention one crucial thing:

RELOAD TIME sucks. It was buffed by 1s ages ago but it reloads slower than a tier VII heavy with the same gun. Slower than IS3 top gun.  I think only defender loads the 122mm longer but then, he has that epic alpha and penetration.


Edited by Drahau, 15 March 2017 - 01:41 PM.


Shacou #53 Posted 15 March 2017 - 08:51 PM

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View PostDrahau, on 15 March 2017 - 02:39 PM, said:

The great wall

 

It won't get buffed anymore until 34-2 gets some love. 34-2 works due it's small profile which allows you to sneak around, but 34-3 is just a big turd on tracks. 34-3 has better 122mm capabilities than 34-2 though.

Search_Warrant #54 Posted 16 March 2017 - 06:03 PM

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WG buffed this thing how much now? it will never be good.

PricelessPlayingPancake #55 Posted 18 March 2017 - 02:23 PM

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It will be good only if Murazor will put his hands on that tank via ru community rage about the tank being 40eu crap. I have high hopes for that , because of some thingys passed #ST-II tier X - which was known 1 month , before the news about that reached the forums . Preff mm tank equalizing was named in the same $^$/@@5/ :)  i said already  way more than im currently allowed...

Edited by PricelessPlayingPancake, 18 March 2017 - 02:26 PM.


nekti212 #56 Posted 21 March 2017 - 01:50 PM

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View PostSchemezoid, on 26 February 2017 - 03:53 AM, said:

It's become so obsolete that just looking at it hurts my eyes

 

lol, i still play it though and i still own people in it.... but i have to try really really really hard... 

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View PostSpurtung, on 26 February 2017 - 11:06 AM, said:

If you can't make T-34-3 work, I worry more about your level of incompetence and less with the tank's level of "uncompetitiveness".

 

I agree. But still doesnt change the fact that its garbage and needs a huge buff.

LaManche #58 Posted 21 March 2017 - 02:25 PM

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If they're going to change one thing, then I hope they buff the aim time. 



Marlekin #59 Posted 21 March 2017 - 02:37 PM

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The best thing you guys can hope for is that Wargaming nerfs this premium. 



Thalgardis #60 Posted 27 March 2017 - 09:41 AM

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Buffs ?  Sure, as long as the preferential MM stays.




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