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J00F #41 Posted 28 February 2017 - 09:49 PM

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Perfect example of pay2win. Its better than standard t34-85


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Lanrefni #42 Posted 28 February 2017 - 09:59 PM

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View PostHoldes, on 28 February 2017 - 01:02 PM, said:

Again a bundle, inflating the price about 40%. Thanks, but no thanks.

It costs as much as 5500 Gold which, if you use simple math brains,is the same price for the bundle there.

And most premiums of T6 are ~3000 gold.

 

On topic:

Ahh a good tank,now would be even better with my 5skill T-43 crew (and this thing is now even better than T-43 on it's tier,but on par with KV-13,which is simply all kinds of wtf),but since i spent my cash elsewhere already,no money - no honey.


Edited by lnfernaI, 28 February 2017 - 09:59 PM.


anonym_ZxkC3EBNBO8l #43 Posted 28 February 2017 - 10:09 PM

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 T-34  M is real beast in its tier now.

180 alpha damage , 12 shells per minute,  aim time just  2.2 s,   usable armor and speed.

 

One of the best tanks in tier now, if not the best IMO.

 

 

 


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Holdes #44 Posted 28 February 2017 - 10:54 PM

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View PostlnfernaI, on 28 February 2017 - 09:59 PM, said:

It costs as much as 5500 Gold which, if you use simple math brains,is the same price for the bundle there.

I'm trying to understand what you said here. So the bundle costs as much as 5500 gold... and?

 

In case you see a problem with my post:

Tank cost (including slot): 5500-1450=4050 gold

4050×1.36=5506.

 

So the price is inflated by a little less than 36%, to be exact.

 

4050/5500 = 0.73

 

 



Lanrefni #45 Posted 01 March 2017 - 05:21 AM

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View PostHoldes, on 28 February 2017 - 11:54 PM, said:

I'm trying to understand what you said here. So the bundle costs as much as 5500 gold... and?

 

In case you see a problem with my post:

Tank cost (including slot): 5500-1450=4050 gold

4050×1.36=5506.

 

So the price is inflated by a little less than 36%, to be exact.

 

4050/5500 = 0.73

 

 

 

3750 (tank) + 1450 (bundle gold) + 300* (slot) - 5550*.

Gold value is actually smaller - you can buy at least 1 permanent camo on top.

It's simple math jesus. 

The hell you smoking.

 

Besides do you even know what inflation is? No.


Edited by lnfernaI, 01 March 2017 - 06:48 AM.


sir_alex_ice #46 Posted 01 March 2017 - 05:28 AM

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Cost for tank slot is 300g.

Gremlin182 #47 Posted 01 March 2017 - 06:41 AM

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View Post_Poe, on 28 February 2017 - 05:44 PM, said:

 

 mr . M is now slightly stronger than Rudy, I bought it and feel is like in Soviet  ww2 films.

 

True enough

I was checking it in tanks GG "though I am not sure that is completely accurate any more errors are creeping in"

 

Though I liked the T34-85 and the Rudy I am not sure I like their reasoning when it comes to these tanks.

They are still stuck in the Premium tanks must be worse than standard types.

Bur they have found a way to make them appear better or at least as good, mostly its by using things like ground resistances rate of fire etc.

 

T34-85 has a 600 hp engine    while Rudy and the T34-85M only have a 500.

So their engine health is a lot lower and they have a higher chance of fire.

 

Gets even more strange when it comes to the tank weight and the ground resistances.

The Rudy and M variants weigh over 1000 kg less than the Standard T34-85

The M turret weighs in at 800 kg less than the T34-85.

Engines weigh the same

On the premiums the Guns weigh less and despite having the same radio range the radio is 30kg compared to 100kg.

Standard carries 48 rounds of ammo Rudy has 56 and the M has 60

 

Based on the engine power weight and ground resistances I would expect the Rudy and 85 to more or less behave the same and the M to be a little slower to accelerate.

Still it makes the game interesting

 



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View Postsir_alex_ice, on 01 March 2017 - 06:28 AM, said:

Cost for tank slot is 300g.

It's still total 5500(little mistake on my side) so what is the fuss about?

Value of that stuff is the same even if you bought the tank,gold and slot separately.



Holdes #49 Posted 01 March 2017 - 07:06 AM

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View PostlnfernaI, on 01 March 2017 - 05:21 AM, said:

 

3750 (tank) + 1450 (bundle gold) + 300* (slot) - 5550*.

 

It's simple math jesus. 

The hell you smoking.

Hey, you know how to add, congratulations!

Now explain why i need to buy 1450 gold with the tank.

 

Actually don't bother, because I know the answer. 



Lanrefni #50 Posted 01 March 2017 - 07:31 AM

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View PostHoldes, on 01 March 2017 - 08:06 AM, said:

Now explain why i need to buy 1450 gold with the tank.

To trigger people in the use of gold ammo.

Matter of fact,only noobs don't use gold ammo.



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View PostlnfernaI, on 01 March 2017 - 07:31 AM, said:

To trigger people in the use of gold ammo.

Matter of fact,only noobs don't use gold ammo.

 

LOL. That's the most stupid thing I've read in this topic. Gold can be used for many things, and gold ammo is definitely not the best choice.

 

Anyway you've totally missed the point, which is - tank can be bought only with additional and unnecessary gold. EOT.



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View Post_Poe, on 28 February 2017 - 05:20 PM, said:

 finally an offer that is logical, tank is buffed and I buy it now. Thank you.

 

, if only they would release Panther/M10 and PZ IV Schmathurm which were also buffed in recent patch, the tanks would be selled better now , and if not selled now   in time people will forget they were buffed.

 

So please WG next offers Panther /10 and  Pz IV Schmalthurm.

 

No. I bought M10 when it was cack, in full knowledge that it was cack. At least give us masochists a few months before you milk it.

 

I mean why bother? Just get one medium crew and then cycle it through your premiums. Just you wait until they release tier9/10 premiums.

 

In summary another game breaking OP premium, in that it's better than standard tanks. It's not going to be long before the it's no point owning non-premium tanks at all.


Edited by The_Foolio, 01 March 2017 - 09:31 AM.


sir_alex_ice #53 Posted 01 March 2017 - 09:37 AM

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Gold is good to buy permanent camo and decorate nicely your tank. I am waiting for weekend with 50% discount on camo and decorations.

Burty61 #54 Posted 01 March 2017 - 10:55 AM

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Lol, they didn't lose any time getting this on sale. Guessing it won't be long until the Panther/M10 appears.

 

Quite glad I got this for free now and didn't rage sell it.


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View PostHoldes, on 01 March 2017 - 08:52 AM, said:

 

LOL. That's the most stupid thing I've read in this topic. Gold can be used for many things, and gold ammo is definitely not the best choice.

 

Anyway you've totally missed the point, which is - tank can be bought only with additional and unnecessary gold. EOT.

SHUT UP AND THROW MONEY AT THEM.

It's for your own Foching benefit after all.

(and for WG's benefit too)


Edited by lnfernaI, 01 March 2017 - 11:03 AM.


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Beast. Buy it while can.

 

This tank deservers my respect, I hope it will stay like this, it is ode to most influential  tank in history..


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Depends on what it is you are measuring the influence of (opens can of worms) e.g. Tank design, tank warfare, tank use, tank technology or WW2 impact specifically.

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View PostlnfernaI, on 01 March 2017 - 07:31 AM, said:

To trigger people in the use of gold ammo.

Matter of fact,only noobs don't use gold ammo.

 

That's still a stupid answer on why one would need gold..... only really noob players pays gold for premium ammo. Rest of the sane people uses in game silver....

 

And i think they bundled a small amount of gold with it for if you need to retrain a crew for a different tank and to purchase permanent camo.



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View PostThe_Foolio, on 01 March 2017 - 03:46 PM, said:

Depends on what it is you are measuring the influence of (opens can of worms) e.g. Tank design, tank warfare, tank use, tank technology or WW2 impact specifically.

 

In case of T 34 it is everything you mentionin, Tank design, tank warfare, tank use, tank technology and WW2 impact

 


Edited by _Poe, 01 March 2017 - 07:06 PM.


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View Post_Poe, on 01 March 2017 - 07:03 PM, said:

 

In case of T 34 it is everything you mentionin, Tank design, tank warfare, tank use, tank technology and WW2 impact

 

 

I do see what your saying and it is iconic, and I agree with the WW2 impact part, but with the other parts I think they could be up for discussion. But best not to do that here, not really the right section and it could just de-rail the thread.

 

But you do now get a nice tier 6 prem tank which is semi-historical in not too bad a bundle. (I say semi historical as I think T-34M and A-43 are both interpretations of the proposed T-34 modernization project). 

 

Glad they did something with it, now it's just the FV201/A45 buff I'm waiting for.........






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