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Community #1 Posted 14 April 2017 - 02:57 PM

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A breakdown of changes coming to the American LT branch, with more details on the new Tier X lineup.

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fighting_falcon93 #2 Posted 14 April 2017 - 02:59 PM

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Revert the stats of all LTs to as they where in common test 1...

bobyto93 #3 Posted 14 April 2017 - 03:00 PM

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RIP T37 :(, farewell M41.

Edited by bobyto93, 14 April 2017 - 03:01 PM.


uglycousin #4 Posted 14 April 2017 - 03:01 PM

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Good job turning the Bulldog and all the tier X lights into useless tanks.

THICC_RAT #5 Posted 14 April 2017 - 03:05 PM

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Woooow no more T49 152mm game breaking crap !

I'm so happy those tier X Lt got nerfed to shred, completly.

But lower tiers one ( VII and under) don't really deserve the nerf they took

 

Come at me mad bois, glad your so precious High tiers Lt are dead ~


Edited by Furbutt_requin, 14 April 2017 - 03:06 PM.


ezix58 #6 Posted 14 April 2017 - 03:05 PM

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now no one will noy enjoy new tier 10 LT, thanks WG, as always great job

JS_Bach #7 Posted 14 April 2017 - 03:08 PM

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Why do you bother with these "Revision" Posts after completely destroying light tanks?...

shoot4fun #8 Posted 14 April 2017 - 03:17 PM

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Nobody in his right mind will use that autoloader on the M41, so you reduced the number of shell in the clip but kept the clip reloadtime to 38 seconds...

The T71 at a tier lower has the same damage per clip, the same number of shells  and reloads in almost half the time (in 20 seconds)...

I can not see the logic in this...

 



Mav75 #9 Posted 14 April 2017 - 03:20 PM

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Looks like a thorough f**king to the American light tanks as well. :angry:

 

6 rounds and 38 second reload? Goodbye Bulldog.

Reduced AP penetration on T71... the thing uses APCR as standard. So ammo swap and pen nerf?

T37 was never known for "extreme maneuverability" and a 0.45 accuracy on the nominally top gun?

M7 switched to light tanks and gets reduced rate of fire? Another goodbye.

Never cared about the T49 and the Sheridan, so no effort wasted there for me.



STRAPATONI #10 Posted 14 April 2017 - 03:20 PM

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the RUINS of WOT is started, im not big fun of lights but when they change so much is like they flip the game.

just let the developers be HAPPY!

they work hard on something, they get pay for that, WG owner dont want to put the dollars for wasting time. so why not?

i think they even didnt listen and read their own survey of the SANDBOX , the  players opinion.

they shouldnt come with the idea of tier x lights, and should gave a other solution to the arty instead STUN mod which is disaster.

never invest here my dollars and never will. bcz its obvious one day they will RUIN  all they build for favor.

give medals to developers.



Wayward_Current #11 Posted 14 April 2017 - 03:27 PM

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View PostJS_Bach, on 14 April 2017 - 03:08 PM, said:

Why do you bother with these "Revision" Posts after completely destroying light tanks?...

 

  Exactly, why is WG bothering,  it is defined by majority of experienced players they destroyed uniqueness of playing light tanks, this counts for every nation.

They screwd it by "stadardising" things, making once delicate class of tanks     to be poor man's mediums.

 

As I am concerned they can delete Light tanks from this game because from now playing  this "poor man's madiums" is  waste of play time and crew XP time since true mediums do all the lights can do and are doing it  better.


 


 


 


Edited by _Poe, 14 April 2017 - 03:30 PM.


daimonos93 #12 Posted 14 April 2017 - 03:31 PM

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Moving the bulldog up a tier and reducing its clip size seems like a huge nerf. The autoloader now look very weak. The tank's top speed is also reduced from 72 to 68 Was this tank that overpowered? The new M41 looks very uncompetitive. 

Havoc199 #13 Posted 14 April 2017 - 03:35 PM

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If you move a scout up a tier and remove the scout mm….surprise…..it STILL HAS THE SAME MM AND MEETS THE SAME TANKS. So the nerfs are not needed and in many cases they actually need buffs.....


 

What a joke.


Before the 2nd test nerf to lights they were actually balanced for the most part although some still needed buffs. E.g the French.

 

 

 

 

They had worse (generally across the tiers compared to meds) :
Penetration
Accuracy
DPM
Reload
Alpha
HP
Armour


 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

They made up for it by having :
View range
Camo
Mobility

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

They were very well balanced and still worse than mediums for most maps and situations especially in corridor city meta where scouting means sh*t all. But no…everyone wants to whine.


What people need to understand is that the lights don’t stop at tier 8 now. These are tier 10 tanks and they need to be competitive with tier 10 tanks.

 

 

 

 

Also the argument that they are just mediums is complete false. The meds have way more survivability and firepower. See list above.


Also in that same argument you could say well heavies are just mediums too, more HP, armour and alpha but worse mobility and DPM. Logic....


The entire situation is a stupid joke.

 

 

 

 

Now they have the same or even less view range of equal tier meds and even heavies.
The guns are literally worthless at their tiers.
They have no armour or HP to be able to get stuck in.
They don’t have accuracy or penetration to support.
They don’t have alpha to trade or DPM to fight.

The only thing they have is the mobility and camo.
The mobility means very little in current corridor meta and doesn’t change the dynamic of the game at all except for a few climbs and for chasing damage at the end of the game.
And even the camo isn’t that much better than mediums of their tier in most cases with the exception of keeping it on the move but you still get outspotted by any same tier tank who is camping bush…

 

 

All in all, they just to to revert the changes made in the 2nd test and then go through the tanks 1 by 1 and rebalance them individually.
 

E.g.
 

French lights should be based around a small clip with higher burst / alpha.

Low tier French lights like the 12t and 13 75 need either higher damage per shot or bigger clip to keep the French light flavour.

So leave the 13 90 at tier 8 with a 4 shot 90mm gun.

Make the bat 12t a tier 9 with a 300 alpha 100mm 4 shot gun.

The Americans should have smaller alpha but a larger clip.

Buff RoF on Chaffee, M7 (a lot) and T21.

Leave bulldog with 10 shots.

Make reload speed on 3cm gun on leopard about 2 seconds faster.

Put derp gun back on VK 28. It made it unique. Increase speed back to 68.

Spic is complete garbage. Buff top speed and shell velocity. Possibly return autoloader gun to this. Even better yet add high pen HE for the 'flavour' of the line.

HWK sucks. Buff shell velocity. Possibly add spic autoloader to this tank. Even better yet add high pen HE for the 'flavour' of the line.

Ru top speed back to 80.

Nerf 105mm gun on sheriden SLIGHTLY in terms of RoF and aimtime and buff the gun on Rhm Panzer so it is better. As it was the rhm panzer is literally worse sheriden in every way with the 105mm gun.

Increase effectiveness on the 152mm guns on both T49 and sheriden. Make aimtime, accuracy and gun handling all better as well as slight reload buff.

Buff wz-131 reload speed.


 

These buffs should be done ON TOP of changing the stats back to the 1st test version.
 


Edited by Havoc199, 14 April 2017 - 03:47 PM.


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View Postdaimonos93, on 14 April 2017 - 03:31 PM, said:

Moving the bulldog up a tier and reducing its clip size seems like a huge nerf. The autoloader now look very weak. The tank's top speed is also reduced from 72 to 68 Was this tank that overpowered? The new M41 looks very uncompetitive. 

Bulldog is freking OP now in real servers. 10 shels with 150/ piece is aloat when u meet any light or a tier 8 medium but maybe if they reduce the clip to 6 and in the same time reduce also the reload time with 40% wont be that nerf feel so bad.



Leg3n_d #15 Posted 14 April 2017 - 03:43 PM

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Please dont nerf the M41 Walker Bulldog.

XTXMX #16 Posted 14 April 2017 - 03:47 PM

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I am wondering why WG bothers to create those detailed revisions for each nation as nobody will play them in their death-nerfed state anyways.

 

But I guess stuff like that is time-consuming and easier than actually giving a crap about the value of their own new content.



Schemezoid #17 Posted 14 April 2017 - 03:54 PM

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Nerf, you mean nerf...
Your mentally challenged game designers should write a book called '' how to [edited]up a game 101''

Schemezoid #18 Posted 14 April 2017 - 03:55 PM

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View PostRila1976, on 14 April 2017 - 02:38 PM, said:

Bulldog is freking OP now in real servers. 10 shels with 150/ piece is aloat when u meet any light or a tier 8 medium but maybe if they reduce the clip to 6 and in the same time reduce also the reload time with 40% wont be that nerf feel so bad.

Bulldog op... Lol u mad?



Whiteleo #19 Posted 14 April 2017 - 04:01 PM

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whyyyyyyy will u do something like this??? why u criple light tanks......why u ruin the game?????.....wtf is wrong with u???????????go nerf more lights and buff maus and rest of havy....no sense, this is so stupid....ur master of ruin something good

congo3333 #20 Posted 14 April 2017 - 04:02 PM

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Just what we needed, another T49 with arty shot. Wait, no arty will be able to shot so much so yes bring big guns to scouts.

I think that WG could use some arty gun on some scouts, i bet in blue prints germans/russians made that tank so dig WG dig and bring him to us :popcorn:






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