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Napad24356 #41 Posted 02 May 2017 - 02:04 PM

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Great month for completing some SPG missions :)

DragonH19 #42 Posted 02 May 2017 - 04:16 PM

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View Postleggasiini, on 02 May 2017 - 03:19 AM, said:

 

Vertical stabilizer always if possible. If you want to use spall liner, use it instead of vents, not VStabs.

 

Tell me a situation in where VStab would be usefull pls?

leggasiini #43 Posted 02 May 2017 - 05:26 PM

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View PostDragonH19, on 02 May 2017 - 05:16 PM, said:

 

Tell me a situation in where VStab would be usefull pls?

 

Having 20% increased accuracy when moving and turning vehicle is significant advantage and is extremely useful on everything that has gaven awesome gift that is access to VStabs. This means you can snapshot much better, you can come out from corners and aim less because you lost 20% less accuracy when moving. Seriously, trust me. You WANT it over super marginal reload and VR increase you get from vents.

 

Vents is useful but its generally filler equipment. Rammer and VStabs on everything always if possible. There are few super specific expections, such as dropping VStabs on T-100 or Maus (because those has so ridiculously good gun handling that dropping VStabs is an option, but even still it should be considered), but really, you WANT VStabs on Type 5 Heavy.


Edited by leggasiini, 02 May 2017 - 05:26 PM.


Velvet_Underground #44 Posted 02 May 2017 - 10:08 PM

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View PostHUN_Sector, on 02 May 2017 - 01:13 PM, said:

 

Gameplay should be changed in a way, where existing armor means something.

Because big fat, slow overarmored tanks are boxing bags, free HP pools for other classes.

1. Armor is already meaningful; the high tier japanese heavies block more than 50% of the hits as it is, how much more effective do you want armor to be?
2. Just a thought: If heavy tanks aren't supposed to bleed hp why do they have the highest hp pool in the first place?

 

View PostHUN_Sector, on 02 May 2017 - 01:13 PM, said:

I am here from the closed beta. I experienced the prem shells for real money era and I saw what was the original role of the tank classes. Where meds flanked, heavies pushed, td-s supported. But yet, afraid heavies & td-s are camping, and the meds with gold shells penetrating everyone as an invisible and fast spectre.

What the hell are you talking about? Heavy tanks are already dominating the game and outclass mediums either for most of the player base (e.g. at tier 9-10) or are flat out superior (tier 7 and 8). If you were actually interested in balance between heavies and meds you should first and formost advocate substantial buffs to most tier 7 and pretty much every tier 8 medium tanks.

 

View PostBucifel, on 02 May 2017 - 01:57 PM, said:

yes please...change something on guns...especially on derp one - change this stupid P2W ammo !

ad weakpoints and nerf gold ammo - thats all what BALANCE needs to exist.

A weak cupola as a weakspot is not enough by the way, the japanese heavies need armor nerfs and the removal of their derp guns to achieve some well balanced status.

 

View PostBucifel, on 02 May 2017 - 01:57 PM, said:

japans are pure useless, even buffed...i have to insult players when i play those tanks because any idiot simply press 2 and ruin my game :facepalm:

its extremely frustrating and idiotic and make me to break rules..(insults)

Uselessness confirmed guys

PS: Stating that "any idiot simply press 2 and ruin my game" is rather interesting because the japanese heavies themself are complete noobtubes that lower the overall gameplay quality with their existence in the game......

 

 

 

 

 



Alex_Connor #45 Posted 02 May 2017 - 11:19 PM

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Having ground up the line as far as the O-Ni, can safely say the only thing I like less than fighting japanese heavies is playing japanese heavies.

 

Other heavies, you can play to strengths and weakness. Russian, play aggressive so they miss weakspots, German, sidescrape, US and British go hull down, etc. Japanese heavies are just a big [edited] block of armor, enemy either has enough pen or they don't, there is nothing you can do to make the armor work better or worse. And OMG the guns are so bad. Sure, every now and again you oneshot a tank a tier higher, but the aimtime and accuracy are absolutely horrendous and dpm against armored targets is just laughable. HE doing 300-ish damage a shot with a 20 or 25 second reload.

 

Would take a reliable gun that does less damage but can hit weakspots consistently anyday over occasionally blowing up scouts and TDs (and no, the Japanese AP guns aren't the answer, they are an unholy hybrid of everything bad about Soviet and German HT guns).

 

So yeah, huge [edited] blocks of armor that are entirely dependent on enemy pen/goldspam for performance rather than anything the player does, wildly unreliable/inconsistent guns and a complete lack of mobility to react to the battle changing...

 

At the same time, hugely frustrating to fight, there are no weakspots so you either have really high pen or spam gold, meanwhile whatever you do with own armor doesn't matter, getting hit means a 300 hp chunk of health lost and probably some damaged modules/crew.


Edited by Alex_Connor, 02 May 2017 - 11:33 PM.


Bobby_Berov #46 Posted 03 May 2017 - 02:16 PM

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Will there be a discount 30% for tiers 2 to 5 and 50% for tiers 6 to 10?

az_zill #47 Posted 03 May 2017 - 04:55 PM

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tier x battles right now= press 2 key or go f yourself

 



StinkyStonky #48 Posted 03 May 2017 - 05:30 PM

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View PostBobby_Berov, on 03 May 2017 - 01:16 PM, said:

Will there be a discount ... 50% for tiers 6 to 10?

HHahahahahaaaahahaaaaaaaa  :D

 

Sorry, I see you're new.

There will be discounts.  50% on tier 2-5 happens occasionally.  30% on tier 6/7 every now and then.  

 

And discounts on 8-10 do happen, but virtually never.

And when they do happen they are usually 15%.

 

But I've some good news.  The next discounts on 8-10 is this coming weekend.  So if you're hoping to get one soon, get grinding like crazy this week.



wessmen #49 Posted 04 May 2017 - 08:05 AM

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Wow, is this an arty thread or why is it loaded with crybabies?

Finally. I fcking live it. Its so relaxing to grind this line to break of from normal more frustrating tanks that are overall weak. It doesnt really matter what tier you play you just DERP them anyway.

Its the most fun Ive had in this game for a long time. Rollin up and press DELETE on tanks that think they can sneak in shots never get old. I burst out in laugh every night because derp trolls. Sure it sucks to shoot at strong point and splash for 250 but then you need to fix your aim and get how it works.

-DELETE-
-DELETE-
-DELETE-

Thats me on the battlefield.

leggasiini #50 Posted 04 May 2017 - 08:15 AM

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:popcorn:

ybsone #51 Posted 04 May 2017 - 11:05 PM

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Ok, where is the next top of the tree poll?

Mao89 #52 Posted 04 May 2017 - 11:09 PM

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View Postybsone, on 05 May 2017 - 12:05 AM, said:

Ok, where is the next top of the tree poll?

^That^

Come on, WG! We're curious to know what the next selection will include.



Akathis #53 Posted 04 May 2017 - 11:25 PM

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View PostVelvet_Underground, on 02 May 2017 - 10:08 PM, said:

1. Armor is already meaningful; the high tier japanese heavies block more than 50% of the hits as it is, how much more effective do you want armor to be?
2. Just a thought: If heavy tanks aren't supposed to bleed hp why do they have the highest hp pool in the first place?

 

What the hell are you talking about? Heavy tanks are already dominating the game and outclass mediums either for most of the player base (e.g. at tier 9-10) or are flat out superior (tier 7 and 8). If you were actually interested in balance between heavies and meds you should first and formost advocate substantial buffs to most tier 7 and pretty much every tier 8 medium tanks.

 

A weak cupola as a weakspot is not enough by the way, the japanese heavies need armor nerfs and the removal of their derp guns to achieve some well balanced status.

 

Uselessness confirmed guys

PS: Stating that "any idiot simply press 2 and ruin my game" is rather interesting because the japanese heavies themself are complete noobtubes that lower the overall gameplay quality with their existence in the game......

 

 

 

 

 

 

THIS.

 

Noobs want to have immune heavies that only requires to press rrrrrrrrrr and left mouse button to win.

 

Because they deserve it, their parents told them.



HUN_Sector #54 Posted 06 May 2017 - 12:13 PM

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Buff these shits already! Tier 9 and 10 unplayable!

ybsone #55 Posted 06 May 2017 - 02:49 PM

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Maybe there is no poll because a) there won't be another tott or b) next one will be WG chosen like Kranvagn line

Neyaru #56 Posted 06 May 2017 - 08:13 PM

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Who uses Improved Ventilation instead of Spall Liner now?




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