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Potato_Power #1 Posted 13 May 2017 - 11:43 AM

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So when i came back to WoT i hopped to my favorite tank and it was slow and people complaned how bad it is and on top of that im vs lower tears...

 

So can WoT PLEASE buff ELC speed i mean a freaking artilery is faster than him :D

 

and if not PLEASE bring ELC back and make him a Tier 6 tank so he goes against harder enemies,  ELC is weaker on lower tears because they have autoloaders and HE tanks more often and you dont feel satisfied because there are not many tanks with long reloads and there are not many heavy tanks what you can juke with your low profile tank.... its a complete direct and indirect nerf,,,,



douglarse #2 Posted 13 May 2017 - 12:11 PM

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View PostPotato_Power, on 13 May 2017 - 10:43 AM, said:

So when i came back to WoT i hopped to my favorite tank and it was slow and people complaned how bad it is and on top of that im vs lower tears...

 

So can WoT PLEASE buff ELC speed i mean a freaking artilery is faster than him :D

 

and if not PLEASE bring ELC back and make him a Tier 6 tank so he goes against harder enemies,  ELC is weaker on lower tears because they have autoloaders and HE tanks more often and you dont feel satisfied because there are not many tanks with long reloads and there are not many heavy tanks what you can juke with your low profile tank.... its a complete direct and indirect nerf,,,,

 

Serious?

 

Don't use the top gun and spam APCR(most ELC players did anyway) and you get a fully revolving turret. It makes the tank way more usable in close quarters



Scotviking1968 #3 Posted 13 May 2017 - 12:18 PM

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View Postdouglarse, on 13 May 2017 - 12:11 PM, said:

 

Serious?

 

Don't use the top gun and spam APCR(most ELC players did anyway) and you get a fully revolving turret. It makes the tank way more usable in close quarters

 

 


 

have good players stopped playing the ELC ? My usual MOE % varied between high 60's and low 70's before; I played a few games today an suddenly it jumped to 84% and I 2 marked it.  My play has not got that much better, only other reason I can think of is better players have stopped playing it while many more poorer players suddenly have picked it up ?



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View PostPotato_Power, on 13 May 2017 - 10:43 AM, said:

 ELC is weaker on lower tears because they have autoloaders 

 

Good job there are not auto-loaders at high tiers. Must be people with a fast reloading cheat and for some reason a long to medium cooldown. DAMN HAX!



douglarse #5 Posted 13 May 2017 - 12:33 PM

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View PostScotviking1968, on 13 May 2017 - 11:18 AM, said:

 

 


 

have good players stopped playing the ELC ? My usual MOE % varied between high 60's and low 70's before; I played a few games today an suddenly it jumped to 84% and I 2 marked it.  My play has not got that much better, only other reason I can think of is better players have stopped playing it while many more poorer players suddenly have picked it up ?

 

​I would say so. Mines was sitting just over 93% and I played it today, did 1054 damage with 374 assist and it jumped to 96.84.

 

Seems the loss of the ultra high 90mm APCR has put a lot of people off playing it



Homer_J #6 Posted 13 May 2017 - 12:38 PM

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View PostScotviking1968, on 13 May 2017 - 12:18 PM, said:

 

have good players stopped playing the ELC ? My usual MOE % varied between high 60's and low 70's before; I played a few games today an suddenly it jumped to 84% and I 2 marked it.  My play has not got that much better, only other reason I can think of is better players have stopped playing it while many more poorer players suddenly have picked it up ?

 

More likely that the average damage has dropped since the patch and your MOE is counting pre patch damage.  If so your MOE will now nosedive with every battle.

Edited by Homer_J, 13 May 2017 - 12:38 PM.


DracheimFlug #7 Posted 13 May 2017 - 01:01 PM

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Did it take a manoeuvrability hit or is that just my imagination? I don't find the gun quite as much a problem as getting the gun into position while staying alive...

 



RaxipIx #8 Posted 13 May 2017 - 01:10 PM

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View PostHomer_J, on 13 May 2017 - 12:38 PM, said:

 

More likely that the average damage has dropped since the patch and your MOE is counting pre patch damage.  If so your MOE will now nosedive with every battle.

 

I had my 3 marks before the patch. And needed around 1.2-1.3 base xp for an ace.

 

Played it after the patch, and the base xp needed now for an ace is in the 900-1000 area, aced it 2-3 times in 10 games while trying both guns out.

Pretty sure the drop is because it does not have the same fun factor then before so some very good players stopped, or plays them  rarely.



Potato_Power #9 Posted 13 May 2017 - 01:37 PM

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View PostScotviking1968, on 13 May 2017 - 11:18 AM, said:

 

 


 

have good players stopped playing the ELC ? My usual MOE % varied between high 60's and low 70's before; I played a few games today an suddenly it jumped to 84% and I 2 marked it.  My play has not got that much better, only other reason I can think of is better players have stopped playing it while many more poorer players suddenly have picked it up ?

 

ELC is stronger but less fun

Edited by Potato_Power, 13 May 2017 - 01:38 PM.


douglarse #10 Posted 13 May 2017 - 01:48 PM

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View PostPotato_Power, on 13 May 2017 - 12:37 PM, said:

 

ELC is stronger but less fun

 

think the new MM helps it as well

Potato_Power #11 Posted 13 May 2017 - 02:01 PM

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The new 

View Postdouglarse, on 13 May 2017 - 12:48 PM, said:

 

think the new MM helps it as well

 

The new MM is the part whats ruining it, you feel like you paly vs bad tanks so it doesent feel so rewarding to win, and to win its too easy now... all tanks have 0 vision range and overall suck

r00barb #12 Posted 13 May 2017 - 02:10 PM

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View Postdouglarse, on 13 May 2017 - 11:33 AM, said:

Seems the loss of the ultra high 90mm APCR has put a lot of people off playing it

 

I don't recall the last time I fired APCR, the standard AP was always good enough pre-patch. I've been put off playing it because it's not as much fun as it used to be. Mount the 75mm and it's just another tier 5 light tank; mount the 90mm and it's a shadow of what it once was.

 

View PostPotato_Power, on 13 May 2017 - 10:43 AM, said:

So can WoT PLEASE buff ELC speed i mean a freaking artilery is faster than him :D

 

The FV304 has always been faster than the ELC.



Potato_Power #13 Posted 13 May 2017 - 02:32 PM

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View PostStrappster, on 13 May 2017 - 01:10 PM, said:

 

I don't recall the last time I fired APCR, the standard AP was always good enough pre-patch. I've been put off playing it because it's not as much fun as it used to be. Mount the 75mm and it's just another tier 5 light tank; mount the 90mm and it's a shadow of what it once was.

 

 

The FV304 has always been faster than the ELC.

 

i wanted to demonstrate that if a arty can be that fast why not the most limited tank in the game too

r00barb #14 Posted 13 May 2017 - 02:46 PM

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View PostPotato_Power, on 13 May 2017 - 01:32 PM, said:

i wanted to demonstrate that if a arty can be that fast why not the most limited tank in the game too

 

Most limited? Can I have a pint of whatever you've been drinking, please?

 

It's got some of the best camo values in the game and makes a perfect passive scout because you can get to places the enemy aren't expecting. I've always played it with optics and binocs to maximise my chances of getting scout assist damage. That's mostly how I got my 3 MoE in it, though spotting. The fun, for me at least, was in using its mobility to get around the map and exploit its camo.

 

If you think it's limited, you should try playing the British AT TDs. Or the British heavy line before the Conqueror. Or French TDs above tier 5. Or ... etc.



KillingJoker #15 Posted 13 May 2017 - 06:33 PM

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The ELC used to be the little mice of World of tanks, that anoying little creature, that would make arty players lose their minds trying to spamm shots at it and fail...

 

i sold mine after this patch, i second marked it, and as far i remember i was once 3 % of getting the 3rd mark, it was a little gem, that was not easy to master for majority of players, but great fun for everyone...

 

The ELC allowed you to have moments of pure adrenaline by outplaying tanks that could one shot you... playing high risk gameplay at tier 8 level and escape with it doing kolobanov medals and sometimes around 3k damage was something very special for a little machine...

 

it was like my pet, my second most played tank in this game, now i dont i want to play it anymore... it lost its character, its something else now...

i was so upset and sad that i had to sold it... 

 

 

 

 



jugilismaani #16 Posted 13 May 2017 - 06:37 PM

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Just replace the useless tier 6 French scout with the old ELC and everyone should be happy. 

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View Postjugilismaani, on 13 May 2017 - 05:37 PM, said:

Just replace the useless tier 6 French scout with the old ELC and everyone should be happy. 

 

The AMX-12T is far from useless. Especially with the changes done to it in 9,18.

Potato_Power #18 Posted 13 May 2017 - 10:10 PM

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View PostStrappster, on 13 May 2017 - 01:46 PM, said:

 

Most limited? Can I have a pint of whatever you've been drinking, please?

 

It's got some of the best camo values in the game and makes a perfect passive scout because you can get to places the enemy aren't expecting. I've always played it with optics and binocs to maximise my chances of getting scout assist damage. That's mostly how I got my 3 MoE in it, though spotting. The fun, for me at least, was in using its mobility to get around the map and exploit its camo.

 

If you think it's limited, you should try playing the British AT TDs. Or the British heavy line before the Conqueror. Or French TDs above tier 5. Or ... etc.

 

Forget that most limited part :D sry,  im just mad that my favorite tank and the most special tank in the game (not counting FV304) is nerfed...

 

(by most limited i wanted to say the most high risk high reward tank)


Edited by Potato_Power, 13 May 2017 - 10:14 PM.


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View Postjugilismaani, on 13 May 2017 - 06:37 PM, said:

Just replace the useless tier 6 French scout with the old ELC and everyone should be happy. 

 

Don't touch my beloved 12 T. It's one of my most loved tanks, so no ty sir. Terrible idea!

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I have not stopped playing it.  I believe it is still a powerful tank.  Yes the speed sucks, yes the pen sucks, yes the longer reload sucks, but the camo is still good and if played properly it can still be fun.





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