So according to this: https://www.reddit.c...e_and_so_is_wg/ both circonflexes and sirfoch have lost their CC status(understandable in a way for the latter) and Wg had threatened foch with DMCA strikes for having the wrong opinion?
What the hell WG? That's the complete worst way to go about it. Sure, both of them were exceptionally critical of WG, but with valid reason. Do they really think only allowing obvious shills like QB to be CCs has any point? This is just shameful conduct, especially the alleged copyright strikes. Not keeping them as CCs is WGs right obviously, but trying to silence dissenters via copyright is [edited]-backwards conduct for such a big company.
Foch probably explains this better than me:
Update because proofs:
without a preamble, please allow me to clarify one thing which seems to be in the center of all discussions and which is extremely important to me as Head of Community and to Wargaming!
We at Wargaming never claimed and will never pursue a copyright strike on public available or given content based on criticism, negative reviews of content, opinions on content etc. as long as I am having responsibility for community management in Europe. The only exception can be content provided under conditions of an NDA.
Head of Community
Looks like Wg is preparing to throw Ph3lan under the buss and be done with this, not seeing the solution there...
I understand that my statement can be seen dubious compared to the screenshot posted, and the implied threat there. However I want to point out that there was no copyright claim done on SirFoch and I assure you it wouldn't have come to that.
That leaves the questions on our communication yesterday with SirFoch, where the focus was completely and only on his vocabulary, unfortunately the wrong words had been chosen to express the importance of the situation to us. And I apologize to SirFoch, censorship was in no way ever the goal. We will certainly learn from the situation and will continue to work on the we communicate.
I think an apology is extremely minimal considering just what kind of a [edited]move was threatened towards him, especially one buried in a forum topic where he would've never found it. An apology on the portal seems to be more in order.
Kotaku is crap, but this is relevant:
In an official statement provided to Kotaku by Wargaming, the company elaborated on its position,
“We are more than willing to give members of our community second chances, but there is a level of toxicity and/or offensive language that is unacceptable. We regret having to go to such extreme measures in SirFoch’s case, but we also don’t consider those measures to be censorship because we weren’t trying to silence SirFoch’s opinion, we were simply seeking to curb the extremely profane language of a member of our contributor program. SirFoch’s latest claim that we’re somehow prohibiting him from making future videos involving our games is completely false – he’s more than welcome to make more Wargaming-related videos. If those videos continue to include hate speech and homophobic slurs, we’ll take the necessary and appropriate action.”
Yeah, this 1 min 40 clip contained so much hatespeech: https://www.facebook...hc_location=ufi
Turns out that statement has been sent to that jimquisition guy as well, but there's more, not everyone at Wg seems to agree:
Hello all, we wanted to share an update with you on the recent incident with SirFoch
"We at Wargaming have further reviewed the incident of last Friday involving SirFoch and his “Chrysler K GF rant” video, and we believe we could have handled the situation better. We strongly support our players’, including our Community Contributors’, right to speak critically about us and our games. At the same time, in the case of our Community Contributors, we ask that negative comments be made in a reasonably respectful, constructive manner, and SirFoch’s video didn’t do that. In turn, we acted too quickly when we threatened to have YouTube remove SirFoch’s video through a copyright infringement complaint. We have apologized to SirFoch for making that threat, and we are continuing our conversation with him on next steps.
We’re committed to doing a better job on this front. We’re going to improve the way we communicate with our Community Contributors, and as part of that effort we will work with them on more detailed, specific guidelines for our Community Contributors to help ensure incidents like this don’t happen again. We’ll also be implementing a more thorough internal review process of our own potential actions which will be used in any future case where we have concerns that a Community Contributor has crossed the line in the language they use.
We love our players and our contributors – even the ones who don’t always love us – and we are committed to using this case to grow and improve."
Full transcript of the Foch video:
Hello ladies and Mentlegen[sp.],
This is not gonna be a Chrysler K GF review, because f*ck Wargaming, f*ck their terrible way of making these premium tanks lately and f*ck this premium tank in particular. So what is it so bad about this one? Well, first of all there is no frontal weak-spots whatsoever and that is weird when you think about it because, like, if you look at the visual model right here, you see these?
[Zooms to machine-gun ports on the visual model, located on upper-left and -right of the upper glacis.]
You see these things? Oh my god, they are like machine gun ports, they're completely flat probably in real life that you couldn't really put any armour behind this so, this would be a weak-spot and it would be fine, it would award players for knowing this weak-spot and for shooting them but in the collision model, what do we have?
[Switches from visual to collision model.]
No machine gun ports! Why? I don't know because, eh, how are we gonna make money if we don't force everyone to spam premium ammo and buy premium tanks and buy f*cking premium
account? Yay! We are greedy f*cks at Wargaming. Hurray!
Other problems with this tank is that this gun is [edited]AIDS, it's so [edited]bad. 198 pen on a Tier 8 Superheavy? F*ck off dude. Like if you don't load gold/premium ammo on this you're not gonna f*cking do anything on a Heavy tank and if you do load full premium you're not going to make any f*cking credits. So where's the point of playing this?
To f*cking statpad of course, what is better than 260 pen f*cking tier 8 Superheavy that can only be penned with gold ammo frontally? Isn't it f*cking wonderful? GG Wargaming and f*ck you!
It's one thing to claim someone slandered you, but to try and twist that into something it's not and falsely label someone else a homophobe? I'm trying to think of the best word for this. Disgusting is probably the one that comes closest. Vile is another. That's just wrong on a whole other level entirely.
What the [edited]Wg, it's time to stop digging that grave any further.
Oh wait, there's more, maybe his rant was on to something:
Now this storm is settling down, the damage is becoming clear.
-lost Foch as a contributor(obviously)
-PointyHairedJedi and Jingles resigned as community contributors
-Internal WG communication between branches shown as nonexistent
-Non-WoT youtubers now hate their guts
-Ph3lan probably needs new underwear
-Njial needs stress pills
-We still get fucked by a Chrylser K spam (not taking the blam for your faulty wordfilter mods)
Literally the only winner here is the WG marketing department. What incredible damage a single sentence can lead to.
Plot twist, WG support is not the bad guy for once:
Edited by HeathLedger_, Today, 01:46 AM.