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Rincewind_wizzard #1 Posted 19 May 2017 - 10:16 PM

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Back when i played the lights was one shot from anything and dead and they could not scratch any sort of armor.

 

Is this still the case? Are the lights still useless?



Pablo_Amenable #2 Posted 19 May 2017 - 10:21 PM

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Depends on how you will drive them... Anything is useless with a driver that is special

Rincewind_wizzard #3 Posted 19 May 2017 - 10:24 PM

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View PostPablo_Amenable, on 19 May 2017 - 10:21 PM, said:

Depends on how you will drive them... Anything is useless with a driver that is special

 

Speaking from personal experience i see.

Kooallu #4 Posted 19 May 2017 - 11:03 PM

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View PostRincewind_wizzard, on 19 May 2017 - 11:16 PM, said:

Back when i played the lights was one shot from anything and dead and they could not scratch any sort of armor.

 

Is this still the case? Are the lights still useless?

 

of course light tanks are one shot if you park them front of fv183, but if you play light tank correctly its will kick [edited], my favorite light line is french

RockyRoller #5 Posted 20 May 2017 - 12:49 AM

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Some LT have been made worse by the last patch, SP1 c for example

EggyTheGumGumChewer #6 Posted 20 May 2017 - 09:51 AM

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View PostRockyRoller, on 20 May 2017 - 12:49 AM, said:

Some LT have been made worse by the last patch, SP1 c for example

 

SPIC pre patch can not be compared to SPIC after patch because it is a tier lower... The HWK on the other side now has better mm than the pre 9.18 SPIC, and also has better stats.



magkiln #7 Posted 20 May 2017 - 10:13 AM

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View PostRockyRoller, on 20 May 2017 - 12:49 AM, said:

Some LT have been made worse by the last patch, SP1 c for example

 

They've also become more boring. E.g. VK28 no longer gets a derpgun, so now it's just another tier 6 LT with a 75 mm gun.

 

Also, the playstyle has changed. When top tier they're basically fast, unarmoured mediums. Can be a problem when the only LT on your team is top tier. That player probably isn't going to spot.



Akathis #8 Posted 20 May 2017 - 11:02 AM

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Tier 6 light tanks are ok, but nothing special.

Tier 7 tanks are getting better.

Tier 8 tanks render tier 8 medium tanks obsolete.

Tier 9 tanks (when elited) are a true nightmare to tier 8 tanks (not superheavies).

Tier 10 tanks are very underpowered.



Gremlin182 #9 Posted 20 May 2017 - 11:30 AM

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Just personal opinion but

AMX ELC worse

SP1C I dumped but HWK pretty good RU252 still decent.

AMX 13-75 I bought back to train crews but I like it a lot BC12t not played it yet need better crew 13-90 still deciding

LTTB and T54 ltwt seem fine to me

T71 fine, Walker Bulldog I need a crew for but T49 excellent

59-16 great WZ132 seems to have not really changed still pretty good.

 

all 4 premium lights are now really good grab em if you can Type 64 is a little gem but the others are well worth the money if and when they come back on sale.

Type 62 might be win only like last time

 



siramra #10 Posted 20 May 2017 - 06:06 PM

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The easiest class to statpadd was deemed useless by u?

Well, then no. They are still a useless class for u.

I`d suggest u play something else till u get a grasp of the game. A player with 331 games has hardly the experience to state a class is useless.

 

 



Gremlin182 #11 Posted 20 May 2017 - 08:06 PM

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Light tanks are not there to be shot at or go yoloing into combat hoping speed will win through.

If you play them right you are never seen till just before you execute a tank caught out on their own.

You spot enemies you control some areas of the map by allowing your team to damage and kill the enemies you spot.

Then when half the enemy tanks are dead and the rest spread out you go and clean up the remnants.

 

There has been a slight change no scout mm has gone and some lights can be played as mediums but its risky and needs some skill and luck



8Knight_Commander_Pask #12 Posted 21 May 2017 - 07:58 AM

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Did they fix the way LT were rated in battle?

 

I remember that the game didn't rewarded spotting damage so LT were forced to be played like mediums if you wanted to get good money/XP.



Bordhaw #13 Posted 21 May 2017 - 09:30 AM

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View PostRincewind_wizzard, on 19 May 2017 - 09:16 PM, said:

Back when i played the lights was one shot from anything and dead and they could not scratch any sort of armor.

 

Is this still the case? Are the lights still useless?

 

Yes, that's why they are called "lights"....

 

The light's role of being purely scouts has changed now since the last MM change. So you have to play differently altho this is still dependant upon the light tank you playing, the tier, the mm team and map. 



Ranger772 #14 Posted 21 May 2017 - 12:49 PM

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I assume you are back after a longer hiatus. The lights are more useless now because the quality of play on the EU server has declined since 2014.

8Knight_Commander_Pask #15 Posted 21 May 2017 - 04:44 PM

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Do they gain xp for spotting damage now?

Back then you had to deal damage like ordinary tanks to earn credits and xp, and that was PAIN.

 

 



etikchoochoo #16 Posted 21 May 2017 - 08:38 PM

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The leopard at tier 5 now has a pretty awesome gun with really good dpm, so if you are looking to statpad it's probably a place to start and it's good fun to do everything the mediums do but better.

FAMILYTank #17 Posted 22 May 2017 - 08:51 AM

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I dont know how they suit to players in different skill levels but at least for a skilled players lights arent useless.

 

I think lights are fun to play due to their speed. But you I feel that patience is needed with them since the guns in general arent that accurate and especially if you are not using gold ammo, you need to choose your fights really carefully. In my opinion most lights require patient and map-conscious playstyle if one wants to perform well in them.



Suurpolskija #18 Posted 22 May 2017 - 11:51 AM

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I've enjoyed mine after the patch just as I did before. The gun on Amx 13 90 is awesome. Bulldogs firepower is now on the "meh" -side, but oh well. Times are a changing.

 



OreH75 #19 Posted 22 May 2017 - 01:22 PM

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View PostRincewind_wizzard, on 19 May 2017 - 10:16 PM, said:

Back when i played the lights was one shot from anything and dead and they could not scratch any sort of armor.

 

Is this still the case? Are the lights still useless?

 

How did you ever pass Tier 1 then? Lights were never useless...

StinkyStonky #20 Posted 22 May 2017 - 02:55 PM

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I don't think it's very helpful for a player with only 350 battles and only 1 tank about tier 4 to come on here and moan about an entire class of tanks.

 

Some of the best tanks in the game are light tanks.  There are plenty of players who almost eclusively play lights.

 

They're not the easiest to learn though.  For that you want the heavy tanks.  So what are your views of the the Japanese super heavies, the ubiquitous Russian heavies, the classic Germans or the French autoloaders ?

 

Oh, I see you don't have a view as you've never played a heavy tank.

 

Come back when you've got a sensible question that isn't pre-loaded with prejudice.






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