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Solten #41 Posted 01 June 2017 - 05:05 PM

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Karasugan #42 Posted 01 June 2017 - 05:07 PM

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View Postchuao, on 01 June 2017 - 04:47 PM, said:

So much for the pay2win, game money milking, or that only super unicum can get bonds whining :))

 

Kayi4ek, a WoT PC Product Specialist has given a statement:

“To make things more clear. The new mode -Ranked battles – is not supposed to be only way how to get the Bonds in the future. We want to make the Bonds available for everyone. We have decided to launch this new in-game currency with Ranked battles to support the mode. In the future there will be chance to get Bonds for you in Random battles through the missions or in-game specials.”

 

Remains to be seen on how they plan to implement it. Either way you look at it, this statement does not remove the fact that this enhanced equipment is an idiotic move. It will still make the old equipment obsolete and create a bigger gap between players who have them and players that do not. I'd prefer a game being more skill vs skill and less equipment vs equipment, but hey, you can't really sell skill can you?


Somehow competitive games still manage to sell. And sell big. What a paradox that is.

For all the people going on about whine, here's a link to my post earlier on the subject. It was prior to this one guy's announcement about how you can earn bonds via other means in the future, but most of it still applies. Go and and have a read: http://forum.worldof...4#entry14361074

And by the way, right after that the same guy said:
"I can assure you that for now, we have no plans to sell the Bonds for Gold or real money. 

Okay, maybe next christmas then? ;)



VeryRisky #43 Posted 01 June 2017 - 05:29 PM

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Fool/Money separation device.

imendars #44 Posted 01 June 2017 - 05:39 PM

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ADMINS - why Skoda t 50 cant have this bonus? its said from tier 8 to tier 10, but my skoda t 50 (tier 9) doesnt have this. :(

 

Never mind, sorry. its for those that have lost theyre x2... my brain turned itself off.....


Edited by imendars, 01 June 2017 - 05:40 PM.


domnulrazvan #45 Posted 01 June 2017 - 07:24 PM

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Wg s fault :))).



FireWhip #46 Posted 01 June 2017 - 08:20 PM

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Disgusting !!   Stick your Ranked battles down your deep dark tank barrel !!!

imendars #47 Posted 01 June 2017 - 08:24 PM

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View PostCobra6, on 01 June 2017 - 06:33 PM, said:

 

So that in some alternate universe makes it a good thing?...... I don't see your point.....

 

Cobra 6

 

Yes, it does make it a good thing. I really like x2 events.

Besides, i'm trying to get TVP. x2 helps xD


Edited by imendars, 01 June 2017 - 08:29 PM.


Rosetta_and_Philae #48 Posted 01 June 2017 - 08:28 PM

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Not interested in the slightest in playing tier x battles. It is the most annoying and unbalanced tier of them all. 

fighting_falcon93 #49 Posted 01 June 2017 - 09:39 PM

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Nice mission, but a discount on tier 10s would have been in order aswell, how else are we going to buy them WG? :P

Somnorila #50 Posted 01 June 2017 - 10:13 PM

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:facepalm: So i guess that you will not prove me wrong and Ranked battles will be a credit black hole...

I mean this is what i understand from this Untitled.jpg "awesome deal" offer about preparing for the new game mod.

 

View PostDoomHerald, on 01 June 2017 - 03:16 PM, said:

 

1. Using directives in randoms will be highly unlikely, except from the most pathetic statpadders.

 

People used to say the same thing about premium consumables. Just take a gander on some twitch channels and see how "few" people are using rations on random battles.


 

Edited by VMX, 02 June 2017 - 03:04 PM.


SlyMeerkat #51 Posted 01 June 2017 - 10:59 PM

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Finally could this be the incentive i've been waiting for in order for me to start playing and enjoying tier 10, least there is some sort of progression in this :)

Edited by SlyMeerkat, 01 June 2017 - 11:00 PM.


WindSplitter1 #52 Posted 02 June 2017 - 12:56 AM

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I already have one Tier X vehicle... I can unlock 2 or three more but I hardly see the point in it. If these bonds are available or will be in RB, makes no sense to earn them in Ranked Mode.

 

I'd give it a go, we're not for my gm PC being offtune.

 

A tier X premium would be the true definition of P2W. And that's what I thought at first. Despite the title, this is Pay 2 Progress, though implicit that one should do the former, not just because the sheer amount of Au/Ag/Exp needed to grind to their tier but because the repairs/ammo cost/profits are thrash.

 

I was kinda looking forward to this mode, regardless as it seemed like a good battleground to train my girl crew and get the improved equip. I understand not everyone has a Tier X vehicle but, well...



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View PostKarasugan, on 01 June 2017 - 06:07 PM, said:

 

Remains to be seen on how they plan to implement it. Either way you look at it, this statement does not remove the fact that this enhanced equipment is an idiotic move. It will still make the old equipment obsolete and create a bigger gap between players who have them and players that do not. I'd prefer a game being more skill vs skill and less equipment vs equipment, but hey, you can't really sell skill can you?

 

 

Then wait and see, no ? From what i've seen here, we don't have the rules of ranked battles, how many bonds we can can earn, if everyone can earn them, and people are whining already :)) insted of trying to give good ideas to implement in the future (is beta)

 

Enhanced equipment makes old equipment obsolete ? By this you proved that you have no idea how it works. Without "old equipment" , you cannot mount a "new equipment" and it only boost either one of the 3  old equipment (with 25% or 50%) or boost the crew (-1 s down from 3s with 6th sense if you have 6th sense/ gives 6th sense perk if you don't have it - very usefull - and so on with other perks/skills).

 

For example, yesterday i've read in game chat a players that will put the bonds in rammer at E-25. His problem if he thinks that - 0,06s reload with "new equipment" in E-25  is a game changer :))


Edited by chuao, 02 June 2017 - 09:02 AM.


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View Postfighting_falcon93, on 01 June 2017 - 09:39 PM, said:

Nice mission, but a discount on tier 10s would have been in order aswell, how else are we going to buy them WG? :P

 

This is not really special, infect you can probably always buy credit and gold in shop. And they introduce Tier X rank battle with no discount on tier X, great job WG.

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Well I've been saying for years tier 10 is overrated, I guess this justifies what I've been saying a bit.

 

I refer you to a movie scene you may be familliar with:

 

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Hammerhead20 #56 Posted 02 June 2017 - 08:45 AM

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I see no point of playing with tier X vehicles in this game.

 

I can get T110E5, Leopard 1, JagdPz E100, IS-4, IS-7...

 

I don't have any of these vehicles and I don't need them.


Edited by Hammerhead20, 02 June 2017 - 08:50 AM.


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View Postchuao, on 02 June 2017 - 07:55 AM, said:

 

Then wait and see, no ? From what i've seen here, we don't have the rules of ranked battles, how many bonds we can can earn, if everyone can earn them, and people are whining already :)) insted of trying to give good ideas to implement in the future (is beta)

 

Enhanced equipment makes old equipment obsolete ? By this you proved that you have no idea how it works. Without "old equipment" , you cannot mount a "new equipment" and it only boost either one of the 3  old equipment (with 25% or 50%) or boost the crew (-1 s from 3 with 6th sense if you have 6th sense/ gives 6th sense perk if you don't have it - very usefull - and so on with other perks/skills).

 

For example, yesterday i've read in game chat a players that will put the bonds in rammer at E-25. His problem if he thinks that - 0,06s reload with "new equipment" in E-25 thinks he is a game changer :))

 

Sorry friend, but you are one who has either no clue what you are talking about or an inability to understand what you read. I have addressed this common misunderstanding of "being able to boost only one equipment" before. Let me elaborate by copy-pasting my previous post here: 
 

Direct quote from WG (and you can confirm this in-game):

"Packed into 9.19 are six types of Improved Equipment. They all work like the most popular consumables, with one small yet significant difference: newly added items grant a bigger bonus to combat parameters. Also, it’s impossible to mount similar types of regular and Improved Equipment at once, e.g., you can’t equip a tank both with Rammer and Innovative Loading System. You’ve got to choose just one, when readying for a battle."

 

Now this means you won't be able to mount similiar types of equipment. Meaning you can't equip a normal rammer and an improved rammer. You can still go for improved vents, improved rammer (innovative loading system) and improved stabilization system at the same time. Which is quite the advantage over normal equipment.

 

Get it now? Good. Now that we have established that, we may go onwards.

You obviously did not also read my earlier post addressing many of claims people have on how these equipments and directives are "okay". One of them is about the small numbers seen and how good players squeeze out bigger advantage over them, directly affecting the two facts on widening the skill gap and making old equipment obsolete. It was directly linked to the post you just made your reply to, so... Yet again, sir, please go and have a read: http://forum.worldof...4#entry14361074

And after that has been established, we may now discuss about the whine and giving good ideas to implement it. They tested it, they asked for our opinions and the hands-down majority of replies was: "Do not implement this". Can you get any more clear on the subject than that? The "whine" is about them not listening to what we said the entire time and them forcing this feature down our throats. Let's have an imaginative scenario, shall we? We have a bigger guy who's saying he'll kick the s**t out of your geek of a friend and you plead him not to. He still starts doing it. Do you expect then for either you or the receiving end of the beating to be diplomatic about the subject? Will you proceed to explain that "you could maybe hit him less in the face with your next punches"?

No. You don't. There are no "improvement suggestions" because this is not a good feature to have in a game altogether, no matter how you look at it. As it was established in my longer post before. Also, if you have a say on the update itself (be it enhanced equipment or anything else), a better place for it would be the 9.19 general feedback topic (http://forum.worldof...eneral-feedback). You can find all the information discussed above from there.

EDIT: Sorry, forgot to address one of the things you mentioned: We actually do have the rules of the ranked battles and how many bonds will one earn by playing them. And the cost of different equipments and directives in bonds. It's all in the worldoftanks.eu front page article (not going to copy the link here). Please have a read on that as well.


Edited by Karasugan, 02 June 2017 - 09:07 AM.


chuao #58 Posted 02 June 2017 - 09:12 AM

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You sure have a lot of time to spend in forums... sorry, because i didn't read your interesting nouvels (and didn't read them also for this post). I've read only the post on which i quoted you.

I played in the first test server and in the case of equipment, i could mount ONLY enhanced equipment which boosted the already mounted equipment. Only one of the 3. If this changed, i didn't know and i will think how this will affect the gameplay in the running session that will start in around 10 minutes :))

Good luck with the posting. You are doing a very good job.


Edited by chuao, 02 June 2017 - 09:12 AM.


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View Postchuao, on 02 June 2017 - 09:12 AM, said:

You sure have a lot of time to spend in forums... sorry, because i didn't read your interesting nouvels (and didn't read them also for this post). I've read only the post on which i quoted you.

I played in the first test server and in the case of equipment, i could mount ONLY enhanced equipment which boosted the already mounted equipment. Only one of the 3. If this changed, i didn't know and i will think how this will affect the gameplay in the running session that will start in around 10 minutes :))

Good luck with the posting. You are doing a very good job.

 

Yeah, it's my day off... And I don't seem to have a life. :D

No, but seriously. It's just that I've spent four and a half years with this game and I love it. I hate to see it go on a downward spiral and thought that it's better to voice your opinion than just to sit in a gloomy corner and keep complaining without trying to do anything about it. So, you may of course have different opinions from mine and I respect them. But I did notice that you didn't actually read the documents and/or posts from before, so I wanted to explain things in a bit wider scale. :) I am but one player in the massive community of WoT, yet I hope to give voice to thousands of people that don't have the time to write these. 

Alas - and unfortunately - I do not think it will make any difference in the end...

Also what might interest you all is the fact that WG Asia is apparently currently revising this patch due to the massively negative response that they had about it. Let's see what happens.

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I see so to take advantage of this I have to play the same tank over and over.

 

I thought Pacman was 1980????????????????????

 

Is this 2017 or did I just go back in time 40 years??????

 

 

Oh sorry I forgot this is ByeloRUSSIA tetris video game culture  :D

 

I think this is turning into one of those feverish dream-nights where you have repeated nightmares of playing the same tank in rock and corner hugging camp fests omg WG what have you done (Drama for you Grimago).  I know you love it.

 

Not only that but running tier 9's are expensive.  So this is obviously an incentive to pay real money to rent game features.  Cool story!

 

Sorry WG but your game is just too expensive!  There is so much more value for your money to be had elsewhere...


Edited by b0d, 02 June 2017 - 10:17 AM.





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