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cellaman7 #1 Posted 02 June 2017 - 06:53 PM

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So who thinks arty toons should be reinstated?

You can't toon if you are a single arty with 2 other 'normal' tanks. Why is this class being picked on?

 

I've had toons of all the other classes and 3 man platoons of premium tanks on the enemy team but I can't toon in my Bishop with say 2 clan mates in T67's??

 

Come on WG. This is ridiculous!



Adre_ #2 Posted 02 June 2017 - 06:58 PM

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Arty is working as intended, nothing wrong with this class, according to WG. Its balanced, statistics are showing nothing to see here.  Just pick another t67 to the pack, hehe.

Yes, its ridiculous, not alowing people with certain medical problems( "Artillery is a good class for autistic people, why you complaining about that".), taken from http://forum.worldof..._fromsearch__1 ;) to play with "normal" ones in platoon. As for me, i would also like to again toon with others, now i feel abandoned and alone and i dont like it.  :arta:      Make arty great again?



cellaman7 #3 Posted 02 June 2017 - 07:11 PM

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Exactly. A 3 man toon of Scorpion G's or KV-220 or Patriots is fine yet a lonely Bishop is deemed unacceptable.

 

Just total madness on WG behalf. Were the developers drunk when they came up with this idea?



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platoons with one arty   :medal:

 

 



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View Postcellaman7, on 02 June 2017 - 08:11 PM, said:

Exactly. A 3 man toon of Scorpion G's or KV-220 or Patriots is fine yet a lonely Bishop is deemed unacceptable.

 

Just total madness on WG behalf. Were the developers drunk when they came up with this idea?

 

I agree.  A platoon of 3 E25's is completely ok, but if you have a platoon of 2 E25s and a Bishop then the platoon is not allowed. I suppose the Bishop is so much more OP than an E25 that suddenly the enemy team couldn't compete.  That is some funny stuff right there. 

 

And since Slava Makarov himself said "Artillery is a good class for autistic people...", I would like to ask WG:  What does Slava have against people with Autism that makes it so that they are not allowed to platoon with their friends?



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View PostDarth_Clicker, on 03 June 2017 - 05:42 AM, said:

 

 I suppose the Bishop is so much more OP than an E25 that suddenly the enemy team couldn't compete. 

 

Now now there, Darth. We both know that the Bishop is a super awesome SPG :B

cellaman7 #7 Posted 03 June 2017 - 08:20 PM

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Funny enough. 3 Dingers were in a toon last night and I was solo in my Crusader SP.

We got into the same game on the same team. So 4 Dingers with an arty. It can be done!



captainpigg #8 Posted 03 June 2017 - 10:59 PM

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^^^ 3 2 1 press battle right?

cellaman7 #9 Posted 04 June 2017 - 09:04 PM

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View Postcaptainpigg, on 03 June 2017 - 09:59 PM, said:

^^^ 3 2 1 press battle right?

 

That might improve your chances but this was pure coincidence. I didn't notice the other 3 Dingers until I died.

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View PostOrkbert, on 03 June 2017 - 07:51 PM, said:

Now now there, Darth. We both know that the Bishop is a super awesome SPG :B

 

Despite its somewhat-tank-like playstyle, it still attracts opprobrium. I like the ve-hickle though. Today I played on the same team as someone who'd had about 2K Bishop games! I had to apologise to an opposition Bishop, too, 'cos I blew him up.... blinking cannibal.... :ohmy: (sorry about the smiley)!

 



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+1 from me.

 

One of the best things about this game is the ability to platoon with your friends, drink some beers, and have fun.

 

But now if you are playing arty it tuff luck, arty is to OP in platoons, what BS. This is just WG trying to make the arty haters happy. I men why do you think the amount of artys in games have gone down? Instead of having the ball to remove arty they do this, this way the amount of people playing arty go down, but WG do not have to give arty players anything in return for all the hours spent grinding SPG to play. Wg just being Edited , plane and simple.

 

This post has been edited by the moderation team due to swearing. 

 

 


Edited by VMX, 14 June 2017 - 03:11 PM.


cellaman7 #12 Posted 05 June 2017 - 07:11 PM

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Well said Wayne. It's borderline racism against arty. We should all go out and burn our bra's!

 

In a GAME. What can be more FUN than a toon of 3 Bishops or Leffy's?

Oh I know. 3 Defenders that can just decimate a team in the right hands, or stick a Lowe in their for some variety.

 

So come on developers. Remove this silly limitation and just have a 3 arty limit. Me and my clan want to have FUN again!



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View PostOrkbert, on 03 June 2017 - 08:51 PM, said:

 

Now now there, Darth. We both know that the Bishop is a super awesome SPG :B

Yes we do...and yes it is.

 

View Postcellaman7, on 05 June 2017 - 08:11 PM, said:

Well said Wayne. It's borderline racism against arty. We should all go out and burn our bra's!

 

In a GAME. What can be more FUN than a toon of 3 Bishops or Leffy's?

Oh I know. 3 Defenders that can just decimate a team in the right hands, or stick a Lowe in their for some variety.

 

So come on developers. Remove this silly limitation and just have a 3 arty limit. Me and my clan want to have FUN again!

 

There are many platoon combinations in the game much more devastating to the enemy team than any arty platoon.  3x e25...3x Cromwell...3x Type 5 Heavy.....3x Maus....etc.  The only reason these tank classes are still allowed to platoon is because they aren't arty.   There isn't another reason to exclude arty from platoons that isn't also true for non arty vehicles.  It is discrimination and a token pacifier to reduce the level of whine from tank players.

 


 

cellaman7 #14 Posted 06 June 2017 - 06:51 PM

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View PostDarth_Clicker, on 06 June 2017 - 06:26 AM, said:

 

  It is discrimination and a token pacifier to reduce the level of whine from tank players.

 

 

I agree Darth. Yet when I play my Bishop solo, I still see teams with 3 arty a side so what's changed apart from the fact that the arty can't be from the same clan. What difference does it make? Nothing. Still 3 arty per side. It just isn't logical?



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View Postcellaman7, on 06 June 2017 - 07:51 PM, said:

 

I agree Darth. Yet when I play my Bishop solo, I still see teams with 3 arty a side so what's changed apart from the fact that the arty can't be from the same clan. What difference does it make? Nothing. Still 3 arty per side. It just isn't logical?

 

I think it has to do with arty platoons communicating and coordinating using teamspeak to focus on the precious tank players.  Little Johnny Tanker cried to momma WG so much that she came into the playroom and put her foot down making a new rule in the game so little Johnny could have a better chance at winning and stop crying so much.

cellaman7 #16 Posted 08 June 2017 - 07:16 PM

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Oh no. Poor little Johnny. So we can't have some banter whilst playing in a toon that has an arty in it?

 

We didn't need TS to focus fire, we just aimed at a tank and pressed 'T'.

Why not remove that option from the game if little Johnny needs to be wrapped in cotton wool.

 

Just a crazy idea by the developers and i'm afraid i won't be spending another penny until it's sorted.



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One thing I keep wondering about the SPG platoon removal:

 

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 Removing the option to play in Platoons should facilitate team cooperation and aid the matchmaker in creating balanced teams.

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The other frustrating issue was frequent cases of arty giving its all to support fellow Platoon members and totally neglecting the rest of the team.

 

Since we now are fully dependent on the team for the new stun mechanic, why is there no penalty for the team when we stun enemies for dozens of seconds, maybe even minutes if we add all stuns together but the team outright refuses to shoot at stunned targets?

Apart from losing the match, but that also affects the SPGs as well.

 

Disclaimer: Yes I know that very often the stunned will not be in a position where other teammates can easily shoot at them but given that we already had haters publicly stating that they will not shoot at stunned enemies just to deny arties the stun damage renders the argument that SPG in a platoon only focuses for their 'toon mates useless.

 

I can, however see the point about full-arty-platoons, which with the  new 3-5-7 MM could indeed be a bit unwieldy, though the point about other OP non-arty platoons is also somewhat valid.

 



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Anything that reduces the amount of arties is a good thing.

Wayneable #19 Posted 09 June 2017 - 09:38 AM

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I ask Joggaman to make this:

spread it around boys!



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View PostOrkbert, on 08 June 2017 - 07:23 PM, said:

Since we now are fully dependent on the team for the new stun mechanic, why is there no penalty for the team [1] when we stun enemies for dozens of seconds, maybe even minutes if we add all stuns together but the team outright refuses to shoot at stunned targets? [2] Apart from losing the match, but that also affects the SPGs as well.
 

Disclaimer: Yes I know that very often the stunned will not be in a position where other teammates can easily shoot at them [3] but given that we already had haters publicly stating that they will not shoot at stunned enemies just to deny arties the stun damage [2] renders the argument that SPG in a platoon only focuses for their 'toon mates useless. [4]

 

I can, however see the point about full-arty-platoons, which with the  new 3-5-7 MM could indeed be a bit unwieldy, though the point about other OP non-arty platoons is also somewhat valid.

 

 

1) I cannot see how this could be put in place & I don't think it's desirable.

 

2) If people don't take advantage of enemy weaknesses, they must be stupid.

 

3) I all too often see SPG players still seemingly going for damage rather than the team help action of stunning enemies. See 2).

 

4) I have not heard that argument - only that (adopt whining nasal accent) "Arty platoons are OP and FV304 can permastun" (q.v., sic).







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