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raulz0r #1 Posted 04 June 2017 - 01:09 PM

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I don't get why you are punishing people carrying the teams if their team gets defeated, I think we should get 75% exp of a win, so for example if I would've gotten 1000 exp if my team won, give me 750 exp if I manage to finish Top 3 in my team in a defeat. The current system is just dumb. Why punish me if the rest of my team was useless?

 

 

Example of a scenario. In that battle a T29 from the enemy team who was AFK in the base got better exp than me.

 


Edited by raulz0r, 04 June 2017 - 01:10 PM.


FluffyRedFox #2 Posted 04 June 2017 - 01:12 PM

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Dat RU251 tho...

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raulz0r #3 Posted 04 June 2017 - 01:15 PM

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View Postfishbob101, on 04 June 2017 - 02:12 PM, said:

Dat RU251 tho...

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Wisniaksiadz #4 Posted 04 June 2017 - 01:31 PM

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Hedgehog1963 #5 Posted 04 June 2017 - 01:43 PM

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Losers don't get what winners get.

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View Postraulz0r, on 04 June 2017 - 01:09 PM, said:

I don't get why you are punishing people carrying the teams if their team gets defeated

 

If your team lost, how exactly did you carry? And how is camping in the back with a BL-10 gun carrying (no I don't need to see the replay, I know)? You did what, penetrate 4 rounds of which 2 were the AMX 45?

 

Edit: And looking at your overall combat prowesses: just how often did you end up on the good side of the XP award despite your best efforts not to?


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Infine #7 Posted 04 June 2017 - 01:51 PM

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You get exp and credit bonus "for courageous resistance" (I think as if you were on the winning team) if you get an epic medal on defeat.

If you really did carry, getting high caliber is very much possible.



Homer_J #8 Posted 04 June 2017 - 01:54 PM

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The way the system works, play well, win more, profit.

 

The top players on the losing team are generally the ones who sat around at the back doing nothing for the team and farming damage for their own stats.



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View PostAliceUnchained, on 04 June 2017 - 01:47 PM, said:

 

If your team lost, how exactly did you carry? And how is camping in the back with a BL-10 gun carrying (no I don't need to see the replay, I know)? You did what, penetrate 4 rounds of which 2 were the AMX 45?

 

Edit: And looking at your overall combat prowesses: just how often did you end up on the good side of the XP award despite your best efforts not to?

 

I know that this looks like that very often. But c'mon, guy made 3k dmg while second person did almost 1k. SECOND PERSON. IMO you can argue as much as you can, but its unfair that a guy with over 3k dmg get less XP than AFK.

raulz0r #10 Posted 04 June 2017 - 01:58 PM

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View PostHedgehog1963, on 04 June 2017 - 02:43 PM, said:

Losers don't get what winners get.

 

And I didn't said they should, but getting 75% out of a win is fair, getting less exp than the bottom tomato from enemy team is just dumb.

Homer_J #11 Posted 04 June 2017 - 02:07 PM

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View Postraulz0r, on 04 June 2017 - 01:58 PM, said:

 

And I didn't said they should, but getting 75% out of a win is fair, getting less exp than the bottom tomato from enemy team is just dumb.

 

No it isn't.

 

It's a team game, you get rewarded for being on the winning team and not for being on the losing team.

 

There is a game economy at work, WG can't just let you have more exp for losing, they have to take that from somewhere and redistribute it.  So if you want the top 3 losers to get more then someone has to get less.

 

Play better, win more, profit.



Jigabachi #12 Posted 04 June 2017 - 02:14 PM

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Being at top of the list when you suffered a defeat doesn't AT ALL mean that you fought heroically or tried to carry. It can also mean that you are the reason why you lost. Think about basecamping toptiers.

Sooo... no. Hell no. Reward victories, not defeats.



DerpYa #13 Posted 04 June 2017 - 02:21 PM

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"Reward victories, not defeats."

Riiight... In a game with MM so rigged that "randomly" puts 13 suicidal lemming rushers in one team and 13 capable or wallet players in the other.

Sure. :D



Jigabachi #14 Posted 04 June 2017 - 02:49 PM

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View PostDerpYa, on 04 June 2017 - 02:21 PM, said:

"Reward victories, not defeats."

Riiight... In a game with MM so rigged that "randomly" puts 13 suicidal lemming rushers in one team and 13 capable or wallet players in the other.

Sure. :D

I know, I know. If the game wasn't rigged, your reroll would have gotten you to top unicorn levels.

But how exactly does that have ANYTHING to do with the topic? :sceptic:


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Tipperty #15 Posted 04 June 2017 - 03:05 PM

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View PostJigabachi, on 04 June 2017 - 01:49 PM, said:

I know, I know. If the game wasn't rigged, your reroll would have get you to top unicorn levels.

But how exactly does that have ANYTHING to do with the topic? :sceptic:

 

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Hedgehog1963 #16 Posted 04 June 2017 - 03:30 PM

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View Postraulz0r, on 04 June 2017 - 12:58 PM, said:

 

And I didn't said they should, but getting 75% out of a win is fair, getting less exp than the bottom tomato from enemy team is just dumb.

 

It's not dumb - You lost.

AliceUnchained #17 Posted 04 June 2017 - 03:43 PM

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View PostWisniaksiadz, on 04 June 2017 - 01:55 PM, said:

I know that this looks like that very often. But c'mon, guy made 3k dmg while second person did almost 1k. SECOND PERSON. IMO you can argue as much as you can, but its unfair that a guy with over 3k dmg get less XP than AFK.

 

I'm not going to argue with you at all, as it would be an exercise in futility almost surely. It is completely fair when that other player was on the winning team, as this is a team game revolving around winning. And not merely (purely) being top damage dealer on your team. 

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View Postraulz0r, on 04 June 2017 - 01:09 PM, said:

I don't get why you are punishing people carrying the teams if their team gets defeated, I think we should get 75% exp of a win, so for example if I would've gotten 1000 exp if my team won, give me 750 exp if I manage to finish Top 3 in my team in a defeat. The current system is just dumb. Why punish me if the rest of my team was useless?

 

 

Example of a scenario. In that battle a T29 from the enemy team who was AFK in the base got better exp than me.

 

 

 

A bit odd indeed. Especially since there are matches in which a good player on the losing side does get rewarded:

http://wotreplays.com/site/3604993#teams

Only two players of the winning team got more XP than me, and that is without the courageous resistance bonus. Dunno what you did to get that much shafted.



Joggaman #20 Posted 04 June 2017 - 04:31 PM

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I think the courageous resistance bonus is good enough reward if on the losing team.




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