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Scrappey #1 Posted 07 June 2017 - 06:00 PM

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Hi blitzkriegers!

 

Been wondering...After some update from the M44 one of my loaders hasn't been able to use his intuition ability for loading correct shell to hit target as the change implied deleting the option to choose between munitions. See printscreen.

 

I propose to WoT to bring back the pantzerpenetrating munition, or give all M44 (perhaps also other vehicletypes) the option to change the loaders speciality.

 

GLHF =)

 

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Wintermute_1 #2 Posted 07 June 2017 - 06:06 PM

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Take cover, incoming abuse...

Suurpolskija #3 Posted 07 June 2017 - 06:09 PM

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Wrong area.

Take this to game guides > vehicles > american > spg.

I'm sure someone there is able to help.

Dundato #4 Posted 07 June 2017 - 06:33 PM

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Sounds like another idea that was plucked from the monthly tophat

captainpigg #5 Posted 07 June 2017 - 06:43 PM

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To be fair, any arty that only has 1 shell type now should have got a free gold retrain token with 9.18 for the loaders if they had Intuition trained. Also gunners for the Deadeye perk with the removal of AP rounds.

Dava_117 #6 Posted 07 June 2017 - 06:45 PM

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Well, I don't think AP round will come back and I don't like the idea very much, but IMMO people who invested time to develop a perk that suddenly became useless should get the ability exchange for free. Obviously on that perk only and one time only!

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Ok second post, transfer to correct forumarea if needed pls. Furthermore it just seems unreasonable to me to change ingame options which render specialities unusable without somewhat of a compensation. That's all.

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View PostScrappey, on 07 June 2017 - 06:24 PM, said:

Ok second post, transfer to correct forumarea if needed pls. Furthermore it just seems unreasonable to me to change ingame options which render specialities unusable without somewhat of a compensation. That's all.

 

Don't know about that, it applies to any and all tanks that have their guns/ammo types drastically altered.

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View Postcaptainpigg, on 07 June 2017 - 07:30 PM, said:

 

Don't know about that, it applies to any and all tanks that have their guns/ammo types drastically altered.

 

That's right piggy, that's why i mentioned the () in earlier post. To me this change seems not thought trough and needs correction if I may be honnest.

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It's not like your loader has any other skills worth having on an arty, may as well do a free reset and take the skill drop.

 

If WG were going to address the issue they would have done it when the AP was removed, there's been another patch since then.



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View PostHomer_J, on 07 June 2017 - 06:46 PM, said:

It's not like your loader has any other skills worth having on an arty, may as well do a free reset and take the skill drop.

 

If WG were going to address the issue they would have done it when the AP was removed, there's been another patch since then.

 

Well the loader order for crew skills, for me anyway, is BiA, Safestowage, Concealment and/or radio skill if your loader has them on that particular arty, Seem rather a waste to me in exp loss, would do for credits anyway, but still a waste.

For the Gunner there is BiA, Snapshot, Concealment and  Designated Target as your first four to train, with Deadeye being your fifth to train. Resetting 5 skills for free seems like a lot exp wastage to me

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View PostHomer_J, on 07 June 2017 - 07:46 PM, said:

It's not like your loader has any other skills worth having on an arty, may as well do a free reset and take the skill drop.

 

If WG were going to address the issue they would have done it when the AP was removed, there's been another patch since then.

 

Orly? I just think I just disregarded your opinion and hope for input from staff.

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View Postcaptainpigg, on 07 June 2017 - 08:03 PM, said:

 

Well the loader order for crew skills, for me anyway, is BiA, Safestowage, Concealment and/or radio skill if your loader has them on that particular arty, Seem rather a waste to me in exp loss, would do for credits anyway, but still a waste.

For the Gunner there is BiA, Snapshot, Concealment and  Designated Target as your first four to train, with Deadeye being your fifth to train. Resetting 5 skills for free seems like a lot exp wastage to me

 

Piggy, it's about the fact this ability has been stolen from us users, not which one i can else take, or even reset the abilities. Point is that it is hasn't been thought through, as many other changes in this game. Why put money in inconsistent dev?

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captainpigg #14 Posted 07 June 2017 - 08:14 PM

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The M41/44 should have gotten a gold HE round replacing the HEAT round rather.

And the LeF**k should also have been adjusted, premium tank rules regardless.

Also the premium Sexton, actually did that get a buff because of this? ie is it actually playable now?



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Piggy for your commenty you have been awarded the golden dild-0-shell. I just hope this stuff is being picked. I've tossed money in the M44 and i was disproportionally capped and stolen from.- meh

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View Postcaptainpigg, on 07 June 2017 - 08:03 PM, said:

 

Well the loader order for crew skills, for me anyway, is BiA, Safestowage, Concealment and/or radio skill if your loader has them on that particular arty, 

 

BiA yes, safe stowage is only any use when you get shot and if you get shot you are most likely dead. Concealment maybe if it has any camo worth working with but even then it needs the whole crew trained on it, and what does it matter in a bush at A0 unless the enemy already over ran your team. Radio skill? you mean situational awareness? yeah, go for it, it's got to be worth all of three metres extra view range, again though if it comes to the point where you are doing the spotting then you are as good as dead already.

 

View PostScrappey, on 07 June 2017 - 08:03 PM, said:

 

Orly? I just think I just disregarded your opinion and hope for input from staff.

 

1. You will have a long wait.  A very long wait.

 

2. The issue was raised on the RU forums like two months ago, if there was going to be any compensation then it would have happened in 9.18 (not 9.19 which just landed, 9.18 which happened about 6 weeks ago.)



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View PostHomer_J, on 07 June 2017 - 08:51 PM, said:

 

BiA yes, safe stowage is only any use when you get shot and if you get shot you are most likely dead. Concealment maybe if it has any camo worth working with but even then it needs the whole crew trained on it, and what does it matter in a bush at A0 unless the enemy already over ran your team. Radio skill? you mean situational awareness? yeah, go for it, it's got to be worth all of three metres extra view range, again though if it comes to the point where you are doing the spotting then you are as good as dead already.

 

 

1. You will have a long wait.  A very long wait.

 

2. The issue was raised on the RU forums like two months ago, if there was going to be any compensation then it would have happened in 9.18 (not 9.19 which just landed, 9.18 which happened about 6 weeks ago.)

 

1. so we get a finger, a long finger?

2. the finger get's longer and longer.

 

In a short conclusion: WoT says fence you to the users for their efforts and cash in and behaves erratic? It's not a very good businessmodel. If this is the way to go for this game I will say goodbye and find another one which is more standing up to professionalsm.



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View PostScrappey, on 08 June 2017 - 01:21 AM, said:

 

1. so we get a finger, a long finger?

2. the finger get's longer and longer.

 

In a short conclusion: WoT says fence you to the users for their efforts and cash in and behaves erratic? It's not a very good businessmodel. If this is the way to go for this game I will say goodbye and find another one which is more standing up to professionalsm.

 

kthxbye

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Really though, why train intuition in the first place? BiA is the only really good skill for arta. 6th can be useful but ususally isn't needed and the driving/shooting skills (clutch braking, snapshot) are nice to have. But intuition? How often do you find yourself in a position where you needed to swap ammo and where hoping to get a free reload would give you more damage than just firing the one you have loading and load a new one? 


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View PostHugSeal, on 08 June 2017 - 01:41 AM, said:

 

kthxbye

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Really though, why train intuition in the first place? BiA is the only really good skill for arta. 6th can be useful but ususally isn't needed and the driving/shooting skills (clutch braking, snapshot) are nice to have. But intuition? How often do you find yourself in a position where you needed to swap ammo and where hoping to get a free reload would give you more damage than just firing the one you have loading and load a new one? 

 

again, even if the commander gets a fluffer before shooting ability and it gets withdrawn ingame without any compensation it's erratic behaviour and needs corrected. Better late then never to show love for the gaming community. It's such a small thing, why not do it?

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WG probably ran a database query, found that four people had intuition trained on arty which would be affected and decided it wasn't worth the effort to do anything about it.

 

BTW, have you tried raising a ticket?  They might stump up the 200 gold to reset the skills.  They did in the past (IIRC when the AFK Panther was replaced.)  But then they might ask why it's taken you the best part of two months to realise.







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