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Private_Pearts #1 Posted 07 June 2017 - 08:46 PM

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https://eu.wargaming.net/shop/wot/specials/5349/

 

Seriously. Get the T54 Mod 1. Its way cheaper and it is a better tank.


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Homer_J #2 Posted 07 June 2017 - 08:56 PM

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I never understood why that tank was so expensive.  

 

The only reason I could see was to justify selling tokens to complete the mission and still pay more for it than any other tier 8 premium medium.



Balc0ra #3 Posted 07 June 2017 - 09:05 PM

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View PostPrivate_Pearts, on 07 June 2017 - 08:46 PM, said:

https://eu.wargaming.net/shop/wot/specials/5349/

 

Seriously. Get the T54 Mod 1. Its way cheaper and it is a better tank.

 

A: It's pricey not to screw over the people that bought it during the marathon with nation tokens. As that was the price for all tokens combined. As if it suddenly became cheaper now. They would take more of a piss on those that bought it then. Vs if they sold it for the current price to take a piss on those that don't have neither tier 8 Russian mediums. And it's less people to piss on with the last option.

 

B: Is the T54 mod 1 better? It only has 23 more DPM and a bit more armor. But worse aim time, worse dispersion, 15 more shell speed... that's still below 900. Almost half the potential damage due to having way way less ammo. It's slower, it's traverse is worse, its gun depression is worse. It has less health. But with the same pen and alpha. Then again... tier for tier. Tier 8 mediums are generally not something to brag about.

 


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Private_Pearts #4 Posted 07 June 2017 - 09:26 PM

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View PostBalc0ra, on 07 June 2017 - 09:05 PM, said:

 

A: It's pricey not to screw over the people that bought it during the marathon with nation tokens. As that was the price for all tokens combined. As if it suddenly became cheaper now. They would take more of a piss on those that bought it then. Vs if they sold it for the current price to take a piss on those that don't have neither tier 8 Russian mediums. And it's less people to piss on with the last option.

 

B: Is the T54 mod 1 better? It only has 23 more DPM and a bit more armor. But worse aim time, worse dispersion, 15 more shell speed... that's still below 900. Almost half the potential damage due to having way way less ammo. It's slower, it's traverse is worse, its gun depression is worse. It has less health. But with the same pen and alpha. Then again... tier for tier. Tier 8 mediums are generally not something to brag about.

 

 

Good points all. On balance though I reckon the Mod 1 is a better tank.

Suurpolskija #5 Posted 07 June 2017 - 09:36 PM

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T-44-100 is brilliant, but it's more like panther 88 or M4 ravioli brilliant.

Got it free from the marathon and it's a good all arounder. 45e? I'd pay 25 or 30 with some bundle.

In terms of credits, I'd probably invest in Rev still or if you REALLY want to buy a premium for 45e there's better options. For cheaper too.

Balc0ra #6 Posted 07 June 2017 - 09:38 PM

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View PostPrivate_Pearts, on 07 June 2017 - 09:26 PM, said:

 

Good points all. On balance though I reckon the Mod 1 is a better tank.

 

Only played it at my mates house, as he has it. And only have the T-44-100 myself. As I got it for free. But I'll take the T-44-100 still. Even if the price is a tad higher. But I'm sure someone that own both will say differently. As to each it's own and such.

 

 



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All the peeps that won it, or paid a few tokens or (U MORONS!!!) bought it outright during the marathon mission have forgotten about how when and why.

However, it seems like WG are not interested in actually selling the T-44-100, since it is the most expensive tier 8 premium tank that has been sold directly by WG (the most expensive was that Type 59 auctioned by Jingles for the FV3805 restoration.)

It is not a 45 Euro premium.  It is a gooooooooood tank.  But it is not a great silver earner, it is essentially a fun way to get an extra daily for a USSR medium crew.  T54 Mod 1 is more cost effective for that.  Matilda IV is most cost effective for that (u can buy the matilda IV for 75% off on valentines day, and that is the only time it is worth buying it).



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View PostSuurpolskija, on 07 June 2017 - 08:36 PM, said:

T-44-100 is brilliant, but it's more like panther 88 or M4 ravioli brilliant.

Got it free from the marathon and it's a good all arounder. 45e? I'd pay 25 or 30 with some bundle.

In terms of credits, I'd probably invest in Rev still or if you REALLY want to buy a premium for 45e there's better options. For cheaper too.

 

The tank is crap , was always crap and will always be crap.

Day 1 I saw one in battle and exact words " is the tank ok"  before he answered his fkn turret blew off  ( side hit from a bulldog on karellia)and landed beside me.  Then he typed "NOPE"



IncandescentGerbil #9 Posted 07 June 2017 - 11:01 PM

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I have t-54 mod 1 and have played many hundreds of battles in it. It is slow and dull and I would not play it at all if I wasn't morally opposed to spending money on another premium. In those one-in-twenty battles where you are top tier, it is very good. The rest of the time it will bore you  and you will wish you had spent the money on beer instead. 

wsatnutter #10 Posted 07 June 2017 - 11:04 PM

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sorry im on a weekend   jolly

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you are going to be rogered then yes



ZlatanArKung #11 Posted 08 June 2017 - 06:29 AM

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Just don't buy it.
It is a bad T8 prem tank.
It was ok with former MM and before the premium powercreep and stupid armour buff though.

Enforcer1975 #12 Posted 08 June 2017 - 06:38 AM

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View PostSteel_Patriot, on 07 June 2017 - 09:55 PM, said:

 

The tank is crap , was always crap and will always be crap.

Day 1 I saw one in battle and exact words " is the tank ok"  before he answered his fkn turret blew off  ( side hit from a bulldog on karellia)and landed beside me.  Then he typed "NOPE"

Both are not good choices at the current state of the game. Tbh you could say every tank is crap when another player beats you or you pop your turret. Was asked the other day in a tier 8 game if the LTG was good...i replied with it's meh at best then i had a carry game...imagine how the next game went...

 


Edited by Enforcer1975, 08 June 2017 - 07:09 AM.


Lycopersicon #13 Posted 08 June 2017 - 07:40 AM

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Well, as far as I know, it is simply a T-44 with sideskirts, so it must be a pretty good tank. Just costs more than other T8 meds for some reason.

Suurpolskija #14 Posted 08 June 2017 - 07:45 AM

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Tbh I would not invest money on any premiums now and I've suggested the same to my friends who agree. With the spam of better premiums you won't get what you paid for.

Waiting for the next marathon, I guess.

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Don't waste your money and nerves to this "tank". No firepower, no armor, guaranteed ammorack damage & engine fire from two first enemy hits.

 


 



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View PostBalc0ra, on 07 June 2017 - 08:05 PM, said:

 

A: It's pricey not to screw over the people that bought it during the marathon with nation tokens. As that was the price for all tokens combined. As if it suddenly became cheaper now. They would take more of a piss on those that bought it then. Vs if they sold it for the current price to take a piss on those that don't have neither tier 8 Russian mediums. And it's less people to piss on with the last option.

 

B: Is the T54 mod 1 better? It only has 23 more DPM and a bit more armor. But worse aim time, worse dispersion, 15 more shell speed... that's still below 900. Almost half the potential damage due to having way way less ammo. It's slower, it's traverse is worse, its gun depression is worse. It has less health. But with the same pen and alpha. Then again... tier for tier. Tier 8 mediums are generally not something to brag about.

 

 

yeah.. but t44 cost almost 2x more.. and is only slighlty better in some parts.. imo t44 is slightly better in t10 bc of better mobility. in t9 mm they are very close. in t8 t54 pro is much better. All my hopes to t44-85 really want that thng.

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I do not understand why anyone would buy old non-op premiums when there are better ones available and very likely whatever will be released in future, will be just better.  Even if one “needs” that specific nations tank that is highlighted at any given moment, buyer will feel cheated when new and improved version comes to market.    



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View Posttruoste, on 08 June 2017 - 08:12 AM, said:

I do not understand why anyone would buy old non-op premiums when there are better ones available and very likely whatever will be released in future, will be just better.  Even if one “needs” that specific nations tank that is highlighted at any given moment, buyer will feel cheated when new and improved version comes to market.    

Yeah..better wait for that new OPjekt medium they are going to release soon. 



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It's not a bad tank, certainly better than other TVIIIs. 

The T54 mod 1 has the armour advantage and can bounce the occasional shot, the T44 can't but has better mobility and the gun seems more reliable.

 

Still, not worth the money WG printed on the price tag.


Edited by Jethro_Grey, 08 June 2017 - 09:11 AM.


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View PostPrivate_Pearts, on 07 June 2017 - 08:46 PM, said:

 

Are WG openly taking the piss now?

 

 

What do you mean "now" ? I've only been playing since January, I can't believe what people pay for overpriced pixel tanks they don't actually own tbh, weather they're OP or not! :teethhappy:

 

View Posttruoste, on 08 June 2017 - 08:12 AM, said:

I do not understand why anyone would buy old non-op premiums when there are better ones available and very likely whatever will be released in future, will be just better.  Even if one “needs” that specific nations tank that is highlighted at any given moment, buyer will feel cheated when new and improved version comes to market.    

 

 

I only buy the old ones, I can justify £5, even £10 at a push, to make grinding the crews much easier.

 

Here's my premium line-up:

Churchill III, although tedium squared with the new perma-stun metric the pew pew gun is still quite fun - there's no way my IS3 crew would be on their 4th skill otherwise, I kept the KV1-S, KV-85, and IS too so something to grind their crew back up to useful without spending more gold made it justifiable.

 

Matilda IV, it's pen needs a serious buff cos it bounces on lots of HT's it meets, even with gold rounds (I actually prefer the tier 4 Matilda over it) but it's gun depression is really quite good, needed it to train russian Med crews, then I found the full crew don't actually fit in it when I got it (what's that all about WG?). I mite have been tempted by the Rudy if it had been on sale when I needed it but Meh, same with the CromwellB, I could have justified it even tho the package bundle was overpriced but again it wasn't for sale when I needed it, my Cromwell crew were on thier 4th skill by the time the B came back in the shop so Meh again I dint buy it. 

 

M56 Scorpion - thought it would be a cheap crew trainer for the US TD line since the M8A1,T67, & Hellcat are keepers, but tbh I really don't like it much at all, turretless glass tanks ain't fun for me.

 

Strv m/42-57Alt A.2 - only got it to put my Swedish 3 girl crew somewhere, after playing it I found don't really like sniper tanks, it seems to attract so much toxicity in chat for not playing it aggressively enough for the deadpool experts I hardly ever play it. To top it off I coulda used the girls anywhere after the patch in which case I would never have bought the damn thing in the first place.

 

T25 Pilot - my only tier 8 med, ok for the £6 I paid for the 2 missing tokens I needed.

 

That's it, there's nowt else takes my fancy atm, there's no way I'm gonna blow £40 on pixels even if the Defender comes back in the shop and I could justify it for CW, it's hard enough justifying the £8 a month prem account thesedays, so that's probably going to stop at the end of the month when it runs out. I could easily afford it, but I'm not that silly with my hard earned :P  


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