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Aim_Away_From_Face #1 Posted 07 June 2017 - 09:07 PM

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Here's the results of a a few in my last battle: (shots/hits/pens)

Maus 1:

2083dmg, 4 spots, 2810 blocked, 388 assisted, 7/6/4

= 246xp

Bat-Chat 1:

2177dmg, no spots, no blocked, 178 assisted, 8/7/6

= 224xp

Bat-Chat 2:

1475dmg, 1 spot, no blocked, 525 assisted, 6/5/4

= 193xp

Bat-chat 3:

1589dmg, 1 spot, no blocked, no assisted, 9/7/4

= 179xp

Maus 2:

1470dmg, 1 spot, 2320 blocked, no assisted, 6/5/3, 481 team damage

= 156xp

Me (Obj268)

2180dmg, no spots, 1830 blocked, 205 assisted, 6/4/3

= 148xp

 

How the hell does that work? even a Maus who did less of everything except blocked (and then only took 400 more) AND did team damage gets more than me. Not mention the Batchat #1 who did less of LITERALLY EVERYTHING and yet still gets 50% more xp than I did? Seriously WG, what the actual f....?!



Balc0ra #2 Posted 07 June 2017 - 09:10 PM

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I got rushed by 3 BC in my 183 and died early. Did 1700 damage in 2 shots, and got 300 assist. I came 3th place on a win. The two in front was mediums with over 3K damage. The tank behind me was an Obj 140 with 3500 damage. On 13th place was a T57 HT with 2300 damage and 500 assist. And on 14th place was a Maus with 3K damage "that sat in base". Last place with 130 less XP was a tier X arty with 200 damage and zero stun assist. So I've been amazed of a few of the results I've seen. T57 was brawling the HT line, my 183 did it's damage on others spotting before I was rushed.

Edited by Balc0ra, 07 June 2017 - 09:12 PM.


Stimpeltje #3 Posted 07 June 2017 - 09:14 PM

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You probably did damage when someone else was spotting, therefore u needed to share XP for said damage.

While the others most likely spotted their own damage.


Edited by Stimpeltje, 07 June 2017 - 09:15 PM.


Takeshi_Kovacs #4 Posted 07 June 2017 - 09:17 PM

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Had a crap game was being blocked from shots and only managed 926, bounced 1490 but no spot either. So I capped out solo, not one point for it. Would expect something.

Pandabird #5 Posted 07 June 2017 - 09:17 PM

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XP rng...

Hedgehog1963 #6 Posted 07 June 2017 - 10:19 PM

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I'm perceiving that there's XP that mounts up just for staying alive, for getting actual kills and  - I feel rather than know this - even blocking damage.  All this in addition to the usual malarkey with spotting and damage.

Geno1isme #7 Posted 08 June 2017 - 08:45 AM

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Your numbers mean nothing:

- blocked damage is irrelevant for XP

- accuracy is irrelevant for XP

- XP for damage differ based on invisible factors (target type, who spotted the target, distance)

- XP for assist damage differ based on invisible factors (you get half of the XP the shooter would get normally)

- no info on killshots

- no info on module damage

- survival gives bonus XP

 

Battle summary just doesn't provide you with enough information to figure out if XP calculation is correct.

 

( http://wiki.wargamin...nce_and_Credits )

 



Shivva #8 Posted 08 June 2017 - 09:41 AM

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Xp for critical hits and xp bonus for dmg done at close range would explain it, there is an xp bonus on dmg done at close range >200m iirc. As long as you are alive you earn a small % of xp from team-mates actions this could also explain it along with some of your targets being spotted by someone else.  Without replay we can't see if you were using others as spotters and losing xp to them.

 

http://wiki.wargamin...nce_and_Credits

 

(pretty much copy/paste from another post I wrote yesterday, just in case it looks familiar.)


Edited by Shivva, 08 June 2017 - 09:42 AM.


uglycousin #9 Posted 08 June 2017 - 09:42 AM

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XP in ranked is messed up.

 

Last night had someone in my team who did 0 dmg and 0 assist and made it in top 12. The 13th player was someone who did damage and got some assisted damage as well. But somehow he was placed in the 13th place below the 0 dmg game player so no chevron for him in that battle.

 

I was capping in one battle, forcing the enemy to get out of cover in order to reset me. My team was sniping them. Died with some 700 dmg done and 1700 in assisted damage before being taken out. Crap game but we won. I was 13th on XP so no chevron for me that battle. A player with 600dmg done and 500 assisted damage got 8th place. Because logic.

 

What on earth is going on with ranked battles XP?



NiemandXL #10 Posted 08 June 2017 - 12:32 PM

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Game punishes you for using one of the least competitive tanks in the game for a competitive game mode.

zubizarus #11 Posted 10 June 2017 - 11:24 PM

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Ranked is totally messed up, it greatly encourages sitting back on red line and sniping. If you actively play and spot and harass enemy you get nothing, E100 and maus sniping from red line will get more XP. Twice I finished first on damage, 4800 and 4600 respectively in my Grille 15, agresive play yet not front line, we lost and I was 4th and 6th on experience. Twice. Then I switched to randoms and won't play ranked anymore till they'll fix it, if ever.

ZlatanArKung #12 Posted 11 June 2017 - 09:33 AM

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View Postuglycousin, on 08 June 2017 - 09:42 AM, said:

XP in ranked is messed up.

 

Last night had someone in my team who did 0 dmg and 0 assist and made it in top 12. The 13th player was someone who did damage and got some assisted damage as well. But somehow he was placed in the 13th place below the 0 dmg game player so no chevron for him in that battle.

 

I was capping in one battle, forcing the enemy to get out of cover in order to reset me. My team was sniping them. Died with some 700 dmg done and 1700 in assisted damage before being taken out. Crap game but we won. I was 13th on XP so no chevron for me that battle. A player with 600dmg done and 500 assisted damage got 8th place. Because logic.

 

What on earth is going on with ranked battles XP?

 

Well, it seems to xp based on how long you stay alive aswell.

Also. Kills give huge bonuses.



uglycousin #13 Posted 11 June 2017 - 10:07 AM

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View PostZlatanArKung, on 11 June 2017 - 11:33 AM, said:

 

Well, it seems to xp based on how long you stay alive aswell.

Also. Kills give huge bonuses.

 

Yes. Snatch 2 kills and you will be in top 12 for sure. Survive and do damage as well and you will finish among the first.

 



gpalsson #14 Posted 11 June 2017 - 10:51 AM

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I'm guessing it's the proximity exp bonus. The maus was probably right next the the targets it shot at. Kills give bonus, and staying alive gives bonus and spotting gives bonus. Spotting arty gives more than spotting other tanks.

And more. What I'm saying is, we can't see all the data from your post, and even a full end of combat result screen doesn't tell everything.


Edited by gpalsson, 11 June 2017 - 10:53 AM.





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