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Zdrif #1 Posted 11 June 2017 - 07:17 AM

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Reading the rules one thought start started sinkin' in my brain. here are the key points I get:

1. Rewards for league are given at the end of the season

2. To be in League 3 you need to be top 50% of the ranked players.

3. In the end of the season you need to have 16 points to even be ranked.

 

What I get from this is that to get in league 3(in the end of the season, when it actually matters) you need to have better score than half of the people who got 16 points. I think right now like 20% of the ranked players have 4 points, and by the rules the table actually includes players with more than 2 points, which I imagine is another 50% out. So if I actually got this right you actually need to be something like top 5% to actually get anything from ranked with the exception of the rank rewards(2k bonds per season).

(Basically if you are not in league 1 first stage, you are probably not in any league end of season).

 

Sorry if you already discussed this somewhere but it seems like important clarification(at least for ppl like me, who need more time to get things right), which I could not see discussed in the forum.

 

Do not get me wrong, I am not complaining of anything, but I expect some rage Tuesday when 50% of the people get demoted a league down and simply getting rank 5 can not bring them back :D.


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Maauru #2 Posted 11 June 2017 - 07:42 AM

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Right now last ranked reward position (last position in League 3) is:

 

- 3 points

- 45,16% chevron win rate

- position 43279

 

As you need 16 points meaning in average getting 4 points per stage I assume till end of season many currently ranked players will drop making much less players getting rewards than current standing are. With 4 points you can now be even in League 1 (with high enough chevron win rate) and 3 points can get you in League 2.

Based on situation as it is now it seem something like 20-25k players could have 16 points necessary to be ranked at all. And than 10-12,5k will get any reward at all (be at least in League 3) at end of season.



niksa83 #3 Posted 11 June 2017 - 10:58 AM

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If the reward for being top at the end of the season would be around 2400€ then i would have interest in the game mode. If i spend 128 hours a month on a ranked mode i expect the rewards to be lot more than 20€. 

TankSchmidt #4 Posted 11 June 2017 - 11:06 AM

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Basically what Maaru said.

Worst guy with 4 rank points is position 20.360. If we assume some additional people will play the mode, some may stop, we could assume assume that ~20k people will also be on the leaderboard at the end of the whole season. Also: seriously, how can you get rank 4 with 30% chevron rate?! WTF.

 

Right now, with 4 rank points you are (depending on the chevron rate) also at positon 10.180, which will give you the top 50% bonus. Position 5.090 requires 5 rank points and position 2.036 is 6 rank points. If we just extrapolate, you have to have a very good chevron rate at the end to get top 50% with 16 points, 20 points MIGHT get you top 25% and 24 points MIGHT get you top 10%.

 

However, there is one more day to play and generally extrapolating such stuff is always ... just very rough. I personally would not count on getting top 50% with 16 points honestly, despite the HUGE pile of players with 4 points right now.



clixor #5 Posted 11 June 2017 - 11:52 AM

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View PostTankSchmidt, on 11 June 2017 - 11:06 AM, said:

Basically what Maaru said.

Worst guy with 4 rank points is position 20.360. If we assume some additional people will play the mode, some may stop, we could assume assume that ~20k people will also be on the leaderboard at the end of the whole season. Also: seriously, how can you get rank 4 with 30% chevron rate?! WTF.

 

I'm quite surprised / disturbed about this as well. After 3 days or so rank5 pretty much was mostly good players (in terms of wr), but playing rank5 yesterday i saw a huge influx of sub 50% players already. And i just wonder how you get to rank5 with a 30% rating otherwise by a huge amount of luck.



Zdrif #6 Posted 11 June 2017 - 12:35 PM

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View Postclixor, on 11 June 2017 - 10:52 AM, said:

 

I'm quite surprised / disturbed about this as well. After 3 days or so rank5 pretty much was mostly good players (in terms of wr), but playing rank5 yesterday i saw a huge influx of sub 50% players already. And i just wonder how you get to rank5 with a 30% rating otherwise by a huge amount of luck.

 

View PostTankSchmidt, on 11 June 2017 - 10:06 AM, said:

Basically what Maaru said.

Worst guy with 4 rank points is position 20.360. If we assume some additional people will play the mode, some may stop, we could assume assume that ~20k people will also be on the leaderboard at the end of the whole season. Also: seriously, how can you get rank 4 with 30% chevron rate?! WTF.

 

I imagine it is something like someone plays 10 games, wins 2 chevrons in them and says, hey if everybody shoots gold and camps I can too and continues to loose 65% of the games but at least is often top3 of the team.

Edited by Zdrif, 11 June 2017 - 12:35 PM.


TankSchmidt #7 Posted 11 June 2017 - 12:43 PM

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View PostZdrif, on 11 June 2017 - 01:35 PM, said:

I imagine it is something like someone plays 10 games, wins 2 chevrons in them and says, hey if everybody shoots gold and camps I can too and continues to loose 65% of the games but at least is often top3 of the team.

 

I honestly dont think so. The 30% are the chevron ratio. It means that in 30% of the battles he got a chevron, no matter if the battle was won/lost/drawn. And given the avg dmg (no arta or lights played) and avg kills I kind of doubt he made it top 3 on losing team that often.

Edit: even more interesting: the chevron ratio is LOWER than his WR, which is 43% - which is 39 battles. Remember he only got 27 chevrons! That already hints at the fact that he placed 12th-15th on the winning team quite a bit. Which makes it even more doubtful that he made top 3 on the losing team.

 

To illustrate better, here is an ingame screenshot:

 

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Edited by TankSchmidt, 11 June 2017 - 12:47 PM.


Shivva #8 Posted 11 June 2017 - 12:46 PM

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Yeah my Chevron ratio screwed me over also, near 60% wins but only 40% chevron awards. Must git gooder. ;)

CoDiGGo #9 Posted 11 June 2017 - 12:51 PM

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View PostZdrif, on 11 June 2017 - 07:17 AM, said:

Reading the rules one thought start started sinkin' in my brain. here are the key points I get:

1. Rewards for league are given at the end of the season

2. To be in League 3 you need to be top 50% of the ranked players.

3. In the end of the season you need to have 16 points to even be ranked.

 

 

Sure? I read the rule, but not clear. I mean, 16 points in not easy for average player, I dont want to grind 16 points if not necessary.

 

And also, to enter top 50% of players or enter 50% of players with min. 16 points is not even close to be the same.


Edited by CoDiGGo, 11 June 2017 - 01:04 PM.


JocMeister #10 Posted 11 June 2017 - 12:53 PM

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Doesn´t this mean that unless you get rank 4 minimum per week you won´t get any rewards at all regardless of where you place? This is basically why I gave up after getting into rank 3. Not going to grind 4 ranks per week just to almost be able to buy 1 equipment. 

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TankSchmidt #11 Posted 11 June 2017 - 12:55 PM

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View PostJocMeister, on 11 June 2017 - 01:53 PM, said:

Doesn´t this mean that unless you get rank 4 minimum per week you won´t get any rewards at all regardless of where you place?

 

Yes, thats exactly the meaning. You will not be on the leaderboard to get the end-season rewards.

 

You will still get the 100/200/300/400/500 bonds for reaching rank 1/2/3/4/5 each stage though.



HundeWurst #12 Posted 11 June 2017 - 12:56 PM

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This is getting uglier by the minute...

 

All that hustle for so little reward. Maybe I quit early.



TankSchmidt #13 Posted 11 June 2017 - 01:00 PM

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View PostWunderWurst, on 11 June 2017 - 01:56 PM, said:

This is getting uglier by the minute...

 

All that hustle for so little reward. Maybe I quit early.

 

The best part is: apart from the ingame tooltip telling you the minimum threshold of 16 points to make it to the leaderboard, there was a page on the official wot website with the rules and regulations stating also exactly that. But that page is since a couple of days 404 - not found! :hiding:

 

See my post here for all the dirty details....


Edited by TankSchmidt, 11 June 2017 - 01:01 PM.


XKeyscore #14 Posted 11 June 2017 - 01:01 PM

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Well...the gamemode is made to drain you credits so you buy premiumtanks/time or gold. Ist not here to reward skilled play or give you something back

Folau #15 Posted 11 June 2017 - 01:02 PM

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View PostWunderWurst, on 11 June 2017 - 11:56 AM, said:

This is getting uglier by the minute...

 

All that hustle for so little reward. Maybe I quit early.

 

I remember campaigns being grim, but vaguely worth it for the tanks. This seems even worse but with totally underwhelming rewards.

 

Not sure if I bother from next week.



ZlatanArKung #16 Posted 11 June 2017 - 01:04 PM

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View PostTankSchmidt, on 11 June 2017 - 01:00 PM, said:

 

The best part is: apart from the ingame tooltip telling you the minimum threshold of 16 points to make it to the leaderboard, there was a page on the official wot website with the rules and regulations stating also exactly that. But that page is since a couple of days 404 - not found! :hiding:

 

See my post here for all the dirty details....

 

Well. It means Grinding will give highest rewards, skill need not apply.



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View PostFolau, on 11 June 2017 - 01:02 PM, said:

 

I remember campaigns being grim, but vaguely worth it for the tanks. This seems even worse but with totally underwhelming rewards.

 

Not sure if I bother from next week.

 

I might get rank 5 for the 4 weeks and see where I place.



JocMeister #18 Posted 11 June 2017 - 01:07 PM

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View PostTankSchmidt, on 11 June 2017 - 12:55 PM, said:

 

Yes, thats exactly the meaning. You will not be on the leaderboard to get the end-season rewards.

 

You will still get the 100/200/300/400/500 bonds for reaching rank 1/2/3/4/5 each stage though.

 

Glad I figured it out early enough.

 

Read the rules and regulations page by chance last week when I saw that. No way I´m grinding that many boring battles basically for nothing.

 

To sum up ranked battles: Its a scam to make people burn credits so WG will sell more Premium tanks, Prem account and credit packs. Most people will realize that eventually but not until they burned a shitload of credits. This mode will die after the 1st season because by then everyone will have figured it out and no one will be playing it.

 

 



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View PostZlatanArKung, on 11 June 2017 - 12:04 PM, said:

 

I might get rank 5 for the 4 weeks and see where I place.

 

Pretty sound plan tbh - I was considering doing something similar myself. Maybe steal a tank rank or two if i really feel like it.

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16 points rule change all, you could grind 16 points and not even enter ligue 3.... if this is confirmed I am out.

 

So how many players could enter into rewards finally? 4-7 k players? that elitist.

 


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