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phantom_mitsaras #1 Posted 11 June 2017 - 03:03 PM

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So I wanted to ask the community .. "What is the most obsolete and most powercreeped tier 8-10 tank in the game and why?

 

My vote goes to obj 268, a tank that was a terror in 2012 is now a mellee creep in 2017.



shishx_the_animal #2 Posted 11 June 2017 - 03:08 PM

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Every British tank? :hiding:

Shivva #3 Posted 11 June 2017 - 03:14 PM

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For me T34...I know it got some small buffs couple of patches ago but is still outclassed by it's more recent peers.

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IncandescentGerbil #4 Posted 11 June 2017 - 03:19 PM

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Type 5. It needs an extra 3000 horsepower to be competitive. It's a Jap tank so why doesn't WG make up some more crap and give it a 1980s style turbo? It's stupid that it can get circled by tier 10 lights. Which are all OP.

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Gvozdika #5 Posted 11 June 2017 - 03:24 PM

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Tiger II - a heavy with armour that was good in 2011, but which is now probably no more reliable than that of it's medium counterpart, the Panther II. The gun is not worth one jot in the current big/alpha peek-a-boom environment - like bringing a sniper rifle to a boxing match. The mobility is lacklustre - not enough to get it out of trouble. It's not in a good place. 

 

Now compare to the IS-3....



leggasiini #6 Posted 11 June 2017 - 03:28 PM

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View PostGvozdika, on 11 June 2017 - 04:24 PM, said:

Now compare to the IS-3....

What is even funnier is that you remember how we got "IS-3 is OP" threads constinently until last year. After recent T8 premium tanks i dont even remember a thread which discussed IS-3 being too good. IS-3 is more like just "good" instead of "OP" these days.



HugsAndKisses #7 Posted 11 June 2017 - 03:29 PM

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Agreed, Turd II comes to mind for me as well.

Big, slow, poor armor. Even some tier 6 mediums rush to get under its guns for easy farming. It has no fear factor, really. For obvious reasons.

 



Pandabird #8 Posted 11 June 2017 - 03:30 PM

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French Tank destroyers

 

 

All of them.



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View PostPandabird, on 11 June 2017 - 04:30 PM, said:

French Tank destroyers

 

 

All of them.

 

Atleast they are getting buffed.

 

There are no words of Tiger II or quite big arsenal of British tanks (especially heavies) getting buffs. Even less for former because the German buff patch already happened in 9.17.1.



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View PostPandabird, on 11 June 2017 - 02:30 PM, said:

French Tank destroyers

 

 

All of them.

 

Forgot about them......only line I've ever given up on so far.

JuliusCheddar #11 Posted 11 June 2017 - 03:37 PM

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As shishx said, probably every british tank below tier 9 except Cromwell (which I hate but acknowledge is good). 

That being said Caernarvon is still better than Tiger II lol



Mosjmosh #12 Posted 11 June 2017 - 03:38 PM

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French TDs tier 7+ The aim and bloom of the gun is reminiscent to that of the KV-2

Armor is mostly worthless, speed is okay+, gun traverse is crap



Orangeminus #13 Posted 11 June 2017 - 03:50 PM

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Every tank that isn't a super heavy or an autoloader

Marlekin #14 Posted 11 June 2017 - 03:51 PM

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No mention of the KV-5, eh?

Isharial #15 Posted 11 June 2017 - 04:01 PM

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French TD... pure uselessness in an entire line with no actually good tanks in it at all... the T5 *could* be a contender.. but its still bad compared to its peer's.. why S35 when you have T67?

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-Tiger 2, worst tank on tier 8, top 5 in WORST tanks in game by years now. HT with sniper gun, useless in city maps, no camo on open big maps. Pointless grind, used to be beast in 2011. 
-268 bad TD, coz of nerf camo after shoot, slow AP, bad gun arc. 
-Foch 155, useless autoloader\drum that is pointless coz of stats on gun, no HP, armor full of weakspot, many autopen place on TD....
-All tanks with 122 mm gun that have 175 pen, why? Cos most tank lost weakspots, in same time Tiger 2, VK auf A still have those weakspot for this gun. 
-T32, outdated gun, 198 just dont work those days. Most tank lose weakspot for this kind of pen, and 0.41 acc dont help. 
-Tog 2, use to be fun tank, but now. T95 goes faster, and Tog 2 still 14....gg
-Dicker Max, more and more maps are removed where camo and gun dep mean something, and TD with no armor and mobility dies slowly. 
-IS6, killed by Defender, and tank that have no weakspot for his gun, simple. 
-Caernarvon, same as Tiger 2. Sniper tank, with no alpha or DPM. 
-VK auf A, 200 mm AP pen, most new tank have no weakspot for this pen, and on most maps u cant use his speed. 
-Ferdi, no speed, no armor, big. Armor used to work in 2011, same as Tiger 2, way to high in his tier. 
-UK valentine, slow, weak armor, no dpm. LT with no mobility.
-Churchil I and VII, tank killed by Japs O-I. No armor, no gun. Bag of HP. BP same. 
-T32-2. Tank that has no armor on hull, no gun dep, bad guns that he can use. 100 mm gun, stats sucks, and there are better tank with same alpha or 122 mm gun, with 175 pen, 0.46 acc, long aim time, bad stats, -3 gun dep. Joke tank.  
- KV 5, tier 6 gun on tier 8, OUT dated by time 
OP, broken tank: T26E5, AMX 49, Skorpion, Maus after buff, Type 5 with GOLD DERP, M2LT, Defender, many tank full on gold.
-T71, new king on his tier. Way to powerfull.  

Edited by ares354, 11 June 2017 - 04:07 PM.


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View Postshishx_the_animal, on 11 June 2017 - 02:08 PM, said:

Every British tank? :hiding:

 

Maybe.

With the notable exception of Bert :arta:



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View Postares354, on 11 June 2017 - 04:05 PM, said:

-Tiger 2, worst tank on tier 8, top 5 in WORST tanks in game by years now. HT with sniper gun, useless in city maps, no camo on open big maps. Pointless grind, used to be beast in 2011. 
-268 bad TD, coz of nerf camo after shoot, slow AP, bad gun arc. 
-Foch 155, useless autoloader\drum that is pointless coz of stats on gun, no HP, armor full of weakspot, many autopen place on TD....
-All tanks with 122 mm gun that have 175 pen, why? Cos most tank lost weakspots, in same time Tiger 2, VK auf A still have those weakspot for this gun. 
-T32, outdated gun, 198 just dont work those days. Most tank lose weakspot for this kind of pen, and 0.41 acc dont help. 
-Tog 2, use to be fun tank, but now. T95 goes faster, and Tog 2 still 14....gg
-Dicker Max, more and more maps are removed where camo and gun dep mean something, and TD with no armor and mobility dies slowly. 
-IS6, killed by Defender, and tank that have no weakspot for his gun, simple. 
-Caernarvon, same as Tiger 2. Sniper tank, with no alpha or DPM. 
-VK auf A, 200 mm AP pen, most new tank have no weakspot for this pen, and on most maps u cant use his speed. 
-Ferdi, no speed, no armor, big. Armor used to work in 2011, same as Tiger 2, way to high in his tier. 
-UK valentine, slow, weak armor, no dpm. LT with no mobility.
-Churchil I and VII, tank killed by Japs O-I. No armor, no gun. Bag of HP. BP same. 
-T32-2. Tank that has no armor on hull, no gun dep, bad guns that he can use. 100 mm gun, stats sucks, and there are better tank with same alpha or 122 mm gun, with 175 pen, 0.46 acc, long aim time, bad stats, -3 gun dep. Joke tank.  
- KV 5, tier 6 gun on tier 8, OUT dated by time 
OP, broken tank: T26E5, AMX 49, Skorpion, Maus after buff, Type 5 with GOLD DERP, M2LT, Defender, many tank full on gold.
-T71, new king on his tier. Way to powerfull.  

T71 has 145 apcr pen which equals about 135 AP pen in my book due to wanky nature of apcr in this game. I think it should have reduced clip size because 900 is nuts, along with shorter reload. 

VK A is a heavium and it's decent at what is does. Doesn't suffer from general retardness of tier 8 as much because of mobility and DPM. 

And Dicker max still is good for a tier 6 td with nuts depression and relatively high alpha. You are simply wrong saying gun depression doesn't matter, play Swedish HT line and you'll start noticing these spots as they are your only chance of survival. 

Also, Caernarvon is better than Tiger II. Both are sh!t though. 

I think I agree with the rest. 



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T54 Proto. 

 

Once a solid tank that performed well. Now one of the worst T8 prems in the game. It has absolutely nothing going for it and the new MM made it even worse. 



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View PostJocMeister, on 11 June 2017 - 04:19 PM, said:

T54 Proto. 

 

Once a solid tank that performed well. Now one of the worst T8 prems in the game. It has absolutely nothing going for it and the new MM made it even worse. 

Nothing going for it? Blasphemy! It has only 34 shells or so, which means if you load full gold it will not ruin your wallet! Try doing that with a Lowe, ha! 






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