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Stiglitz_75 #1 Posted 12 June 2017 - 12:54 PM

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I'm at a bit of a loss, I got the regular Cromwell after playing the Cromwell B for about 950 games (57% winrate), put the same crew from the B to the regular, same equipment (rammer, vents, optics), upgraded everything... and I suck with it. After 47 games, 40% win rate :ohmy: (I did get 3 ace tankers in that, average dmg of 843). At first I thought it was just bad luck, but with almost 50 games I think there is something wrong with my play style with this tank.

 

Do you have to play the regular Cromwell different from the B? Still hoping its also poor match making, but any tips are much appreciated.



JuliusCheddar #2 Posted 12 June 2017 - 12:57 PM

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Nope, it is essentially same tank. You are just unlucky, and 50 games is a small sample size. 

My fv 215b holds my highest wn8 when it comes to tier Xs, along with lowest winrate. It's random. 



Stiglitz_75 #3 Posted 12 June 2017 - 01:00 PM

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Thanks, my poor skill probably doesn't help that much either, but I'll keep at it :) 

gpalsson #4 Posted 12 June 2017 - 01:26 PM

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Same as B, but with better gun on ordinary Cromwell. Spot and harass in T8 games, kill everything in T6 games.

Nacho__Vidal #5 Posted 12 June 2017 - 01:29 PM

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:)) play very but very agressive . But also wait like till you know where the enemy team is . Flank be ready always to relocate and try to not aim to much . Its all about mobility and shooting on the move . 

magkiln #6 Posted 12 June 2017 - 07:02 PM

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View PostMaedre, on 12 June 2017 - 12:54 PM, said:

I'm at a bit of a loss, I got the regular Cromwell after playing the Cromwell B for about 950 games (57% winrate), put the same crew from the B to the regular, same equipment (rammer, vents, optics), upgraded everything... and I suck with it. After 47 games, 40% win rate :ohmy: (I did get 3 ace tankers in that, average dmg of 843). At first I thought it was just bad luck, but with almost 50 games I think there is something wrong with my play style with this tank.

 

Do you have to play the regular Cromwell different from the B? Still hoping its also poor match making, but any tips are much appreciated.

 

Nope, just race around shooting in all directions.

EltvilleTiger #7 Posted 12 June 2017 - 07:13 PM

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You did retrain the crew for the normal Crommie, yes?  If not, I think they will take a performance hit as it is not their primary tank.  That may affect game play.

PowJay #8 Posted 12 June 2017 - 07:47 PM

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I bought the Cromwell B and retrained the Berlin crew for the normal Cromwell, rather than the other way around. One way or another I'd have needed to retrain one crew somewhere, so whatever. 

 

Anyhoo, I first concentrated on playing both vehicles to regain 6th sense, but otherwise there were two tanks with identical spec and a BIA crew- albeit one without 6th sense.

 

Cromwell- 303 battles 56.44% WR.

Cromwell B- 77 battles 44.16% WR 

 

I actually have higher average damage in the B, but darn it: I'm in a LOT of tier VIII battles. 

 

 



250swb #9 Posted 12 June 2017 - 10:09 PM

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I do much better in the regular Cromwell over the 'B', same crew and equipment etc., but the regular Cromwell just feels like the better tank.

Dundato #10 Posted 12 June 2017 - 10:25 PM

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Cromwell B has significantly better Terrain Resistance
Cromwell has slightly better Hull Traverse
Cromwell B has marginally better Radio Range
Cromwell has marginally better dispersion after turret rotation.

Last two differences are by tiny amounts, so shouldn't really factor in.  It basically comes down to Terrain Resistance vs Hull Traverse.  Most would say the better Terrain Resistance wins out - and it is very noticeable whereas the hull traverse is not (to me at least).  In short, the differences are minor, and they play the same way.

250swb #11 Posted 12 June 2017 - 10:34 PM

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View PostDundato, on 12 June 2017 - 10:25 PM, said:


Cromwell B has significantly better Terrain Resistance
Cromwell has slightly better Hull Traverse
Cromwell B has marginally better Radio Range
Cromwell has marginally better dispersion after turret rotation.

Last two differences are by tiny amounts, so shouldn't really factor in. It basically comes down to Terrain Resistance vs Hull Traverse. Most would say the better Terrain Resistance wins out - and it is very noticeable whereas the hull traverse is not (to me at least). In short, the differences are minor, and they play the same way.

 

And yet you have a 49% WR in the 'B' and 55% in the regular Crommie, that is a big difference to say they play the same? Are you talking bollocks?

Edited by 250swb, 12 June 2017 - 10:35 PM.


Dundato #12 Posted 12 June 2017 - 10:43 PM

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View Post250swb, on 12 June 2017 - 09:34 PM, said:

 

And yet you have a 49% WR in the 'B' and 55% in the regular Crommie, that is a big difference to say they play the same? Are you talking bollocks?

 

Copied it from another source/thread. I dont play this nonsensical game anymore. Im sure you can check that up aswell


Edited by Dundato, 13 June 2017 - 07:02 AM.


Dundato #13 Posted 12 June 2017 - 10:54 PM

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View Post250swb, on 12 June 2017 - 09:34 PM, said:

 

And yet you have a 49% WR in the 'B' and 55% in the regular Crommie, that is a big difference to say they play the same? Are you talking bollocks?

 

Here is the other thread i got it from. Cause no doubt u would believe me ya rocket

 

http://forum.worldof...n-the-cromwell/



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View PostDundato, on 12 June 2017 - 10:25 PM, said:

Last two differences are by tiny amounts, so shouldn't really factor in. It basically comes down to Terrain Resistance vs Hull Traverse.

 

The regular Cromwell is better by a small margin, just because it has better gun handling... it also turns faster on medium ground, which is what most of WoT terrain is.

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tips....SELL IT!!!!

RamRaid90 #16 Posted 13 June 2017 - 07:54 AM

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View Postgpalsson, on 12 June 2017 - 12:26 PM, said:

Same as B, but with better gun on ordinary Cromwell. Spot and harass in T8 games, kill everything in T6 games.

 

The gun is identical, the only difference is the standard cromwell gets 0.02 better bloom while traversing the turret.

 

The cromwell B has far better ground resistance, and a far better tank traverse (52 d/s vs 37)


Edited by RamRaid90, 13 June 2017 - 07:54 AM.


Enterprise_NCC1701A #17 Posted 13 June 2017 - 08:12 AM

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One is premium, other standard. Easy to explain... I don't understand why you want to play same tank as free and premium. Stick to ''B'',  you win more, you gain more!

qpranger #18 Posted 13 June 2017 - 08:13 AM

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Well, well, well.

Practically identical tanks, staggeringly different win rate.

Perfect illustration of the rigged nature of MM.



gpalsson #19 Posted 13 June 2017 - 09:05 AM

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View PostRamRaid90, on 13 June 2017 - 06:54 AM, said:

 

The gun is identical, the only difference is the standard cromwell gets 0.02 better bloom while traversing the turret.

 

The cromwell B has far better ground resistance, and a far better tank traverse (52 d/s vs 37)

Which is why I wrote the gun is better. Bloom matters. It's 15% better.

B gets better mobility.

 

But it's the same tank, basically.

 

Let me just repeat what was the essential part of what I wrote:

Spot and harass in T8 games, kill everything in T6 games. 



ZlatanArKung #20 Posted 13 June 2017 - 09:30 AM

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View Postqpranger, on 13 June 2017 - 08:13 AM, said:

Well, well, well.

Practically identical tanks, staggeringly different win rate.

Perfect illustration of the rigged nature of MM.

 

Indeed.

MM has rigged me to 60%+ WR while poor soul like WG_fix_mm-guy got rigged down to 47% or something.

 

Obvious rigging, because that WG_fix_mm-guy is a truly awesome player, just look at his wn8.






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