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kanoni_2015 #1 Posted 13 June 2017 - 10:36 AM

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So as i am grinding to get the obj 268 (i should have gone to the 263 but yeah..) i am currently at the SU-152 and i have to say i am very dissapointed from it.The tank it self is not good at anything apart from the dpm which the game prevents you from using due to the lack of armor and speed with terrible gun handling.Just compare it to the SU-122-44.Apart from 100 dpm less (which is still awesome dpm) the SU-122-44 has better camo, a lot better mobility, a lot better armor and even more amunition!.Why would you even pick the SU-152 over its premium counterpart? This is also a great example of a premium vehicle being A lot better in every way to its standar competitor. So what do you think guys does the SU-152 need a buff and the su-122-44 a nerf?

 



leggasiini #2 Posted 13 June 2017 - 10:38 AM

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I already see the problem.

 

Use the 152 mm, not 122 mm.



Aikl #3 Posted 13 June 2017 - 10:42 AM

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The 122 is the wrong gun on the SU-152. 175mm pen is pretty crap for a T7, as is 219 (APCR), in particular on a TD that can't move very well.

 

Furthermore, getting used to the 122 is a dumb idea. The ISU will require you to use the derp gun - you simply can't pen anything other than medium tanks frontally with the 122s. When you get the BL-10, you'll understand why getting used to a big gun with high damage, low-ish accuracy and long reload is a good idea. 704 and 268 plays more or less the same - they generally don't have the armour to stand up in face-to-face fights (although the 704 can work as an assault gun).

 

And no, don't even think of free-XPing the BL-9 on ISU. It's worthless. Spam HE and HEAT in ISU. 152mm derp guns easily deal 3-400 damage frontally even to T9 heavy tanks with HE, and you do not have the camo to get in more shots anyway. Might as well learn to shoot and scoot into cover.


Edited by Aikl, 13 June 2017 - 10:44 AM.


DuncaN_101 #4 Posted 13 June 2017 - 10:42 AM

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Pretty much what legga says
152 all the way
It's the only lower tier I ground with the stock gun all the way through

Captain_Kremen0 #5 Posted 13 June 2017 - 10:45 AM

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Stock gun all the way

gpalsson #6 Posted 13 June 2017 - 10:52 AM

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Stock gun, HE sniping. Pew pew.

dennez #7 Posted 13 June 2017 - 10:53 AM

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1) Use the 152mm gun

2) Do you see the small slider on the right of the ammo types, next to where it says HEAT?

 

Found it? Good.. This is WIN slider. You slide it all the way to the right and slide the other one (HE) all the way to the left.

 


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qpranger #8 Posted 13 June 2017 - 10:54 AM

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OP, just use the derp gun.

Any tank that has a derp gun,

should use the derp gun.

It is the second rule of the Derp Club.



fighting_falcon93 #9 Posted 13 June 2017 - 10:56 AM

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As leggasiini pointed out, you should use the 152 mm gun. Load it with 50% HE and 50% HEAT. For super thin and super thick armor, use HE, for medium thick armor use the HEAT. Also don't bother with HEAT if you're shooting at very long distances, the gun is not very accurate so it might hit the target but not the flat part you aimed for.

IncandescentGerbil #10 Posted 13 June 2017 - 11:14 AM

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You can have fun in that tank, but it's all about the ISU in that line. 704 was less fun, tier for tier. I didn't bother with 268 in the end.

DuncaN_101 #11 Posted 13 June 2017 - 11:15 AM

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I still think that the 704 is worth playing as well.

IncandescentGerbil #12 Posted 13 June 2017 - 11:18 AM

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Yeah worth playing, just less fun. Only my opinion of course!

IncandescentGerbil #13 Posted 13 June 2017 - 11:19 AM

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Yeah still good and worth playing, only less fun. Only my opinion of course!

DuncaN_101 #14 Posted 13 June 2017 - 11:21 AM

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Well I had more fun on the 704 then the isu but that's probably me

captainpigg #15 Posted 13 June 2017 - 11:27 AM

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View Postqpranger, on 13 June 2017 - 09:54 AM, said:

OP, just use the derp gun.

Any tank that has a derp gun,

should use the derp gun.

It is the second rule of the Derp Club.

 

Except for The Panther, Tiger 1 +p, M26 & M46. Please do ignore Circon using them, the vast majority of us are nowhere close to his skill level and he only does this to entertain his Twitch Stream.

And of course he's just uploaded  a video using the derp on the Panther.



cro001 #16 Posted 13 June 2017 - 11:27 AM

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View PostDuncaN_101, on 13 June 2017 - 11:21 AM, said:

Well I had more fun on the 704 then the isu but that's probably me

 

704 is more complete tank than ISU. ISU is plain stupid just because it's tier 8.

DuncaN_101 #17 Posted 13 June 2017 - 11:31 AM

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I felt more competitive and able to bounce shots with the 704... Isu seems it's made from paper when ever I played it

Mind you I played these tanks a long time ago and don't know how they do these days. I still take my 704 out every now and again.

antoine130 #18 Posted 13 June 2017 - 11:49 AM

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SU-152 is probably the best NON-TURRETED tank destroyer in the game - tier for tier. You just need brainpower to use it's advantages

Edited by antoine130, 13 June 2017 - 12:40 PM.


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View Postkanoni_2015, on 13 June 2017 - 09:36 AM, said:

So as i am grinding to get the obj 268 (i should have gone to the 263 but yeah..) i am currently at the SU-152 and i have to say i am very dissapointed from it.The tank it self is not good at anything apart from the dpm which the game prevents you from using due to the lack of armor and speed with terrible gun handling.Just compare it to the SU-122-44.Apart from 100 dpm less (which is still awesome dpm) the SU-122-44 has better camo, a lot better mobility, a lot better armor and even more amunition!.Why would you even pick the SU-152 over its premium counterpart? This is also a great example of a premium vehicle being A lot better in every way to its standar competitor. So what do you think guys does the SU-152 need a buff and the su-122-44 a nerf?

 

 

the counterpart part good old sue152 is the su100y , the 122-44 is a t44 in td disguise. more counterpart to the su100m1 in my books.

imo no nerfing or buffing needed.



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View Postcaptainpigg, on 13 June 2017 - 11:27 AM, said:

 

Except for The Panther, Tiger 1 +p, M26 & M46. Please do ignore Circon using them, the vast majority of us are nowhere close to his skill level and he only does this to entertain his Twitch Stream.

And of course he's just uploaded  a video using the derp on the Panther.

 

Saw him live in Panther yesterday,, scary so good he can use that tank...




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