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zdeev #1 Posted 13 June 2017 - 07:49 PM

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Hey guys, I have a question.

 

Last week I worked my [edited]off in the Ranked Battles gamemode, and got 6 rank points. I was in League 1, like, at place 3000.

Yesterday I woke up and suddenly all players got removed who were not in League 1 or something, meaning I was not in a League anymore.

What did WG do? Why did they remove these players? Have I been working my [edited]off for nothing? Or is this some glitch that will be fixed?

(Or am I just stupid?)

 

Thanks in advance <3



ZlatanArKung #2 Posted 13 June 2017 - 07:55 PM

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View Postzdeev, on 13 June 2017 - 07:49 PM, said:

Hey guys, I have a question.

 

Last week I worked my [edited]off in the Ranked Battles gamemode, and got 6 rank points. I was in League 1, like, at place 3000.

Yesterday I woke up and suddenly all players got removed who were not in League 1 or something, meaning I was not in a League anymore.

What did WG do? Why did they remove these players? Have I been working my [edited]off for nothing? Or is this some glitch that will be fixed?

(Or am I just stupid?)

 

Thanks in advance <3

 

You need 8 point to be considered in leaderboard this week.

Prepare to work your [edited]off every week to have a slum chance of league 1



enu_ #3 Posted 13 June 2017 - 07:56 PM

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you know how ranked battles work? i mean you playing them, you must know the mechanics

Edited by enu_, 13 June 2017 - 07:56 PM.


ZlatanArKung #4 Posted 13 June 2017 - 07:57 PM

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Or maybe 6 points is enough this week.
After 4 weeks you need 16 points according to WG

zdeev #5 Posted 13 June 2017 - 08:37 PM

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View Postenu_, on 13 June 2017 - 07:56 PM, said:

you know how ranked battles work? i mean you playing them, you must know the mechanics

 

Not really, just driving around and shooting I guess.

I had fun which was the most important thing.



arjun69 #6 Posted 13 June 2017 - 08:38 PM

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at the moment the minimum to be in a league is 7 points.

Marlekin #7 Posted 13 June 2017 - 10:23 PM

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Forgive my ignorance, but is there a forum post or article that goes into more detail about point requirements per league, per stage of a season? :hiding:



SovietBias #8 Posted 13 June 2017 - 11:35 PM

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It's not a glitch, it's by design: Because players that don't meet a minimum number of points are excluded from the rankings, the playerbase from where the top 10% ( and next 15% and 25% ) are drawn from shrinks.

To illustrate, at the moment I checked (last update today at 23h00), the last person on the rankings was number 19481 with 6 points and ~30% chevron efficiency. When you go to the ranked leaderboards and click the little icon next to "Leaders of current season", you get a popup that explains the exclusion criteria of each stage. You'll notice that for Stage 2, that number is 6 points. This means that all those players that got to rank 5 last stage but did not bother to level up further are excluded from the rankings (Not just from the top 10%,25% or 50% but from the rankings altogether, as if they did not play).

The current top 10% are being drawn from this pool of 19481 players that meet the minimum 6 chevrons (last player in top 10% League is no. 1949). Throughout this stage, it may grow as some more players attain 6 chevrons total, but next stage, the cutoff becomes 10. Because the previous cutoff was just 2 points, a lot of players qualified. I don't remember the exact numbers, but IIRC having rank 5 was enough to be on top 10%, so you can imagine how large the pool was. This also means that 90% or more players did not even meet the minimum criteria once Stage 2 began.

 

monthey_ #9 Posted 14 June 2017 - 12:06 AM

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I am having a hard time finding the leader board. Anyone care to post the link pls :)

SovietBias #10 Posted 14 June 2017 - 12:14 AM

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View Postmonthey_, on 13 June 2017 - 11:06 PM, said:

I am having a hard time finding the leader board. Anyone care to post the link pls :)

 

In-game feature only. Select Ranked Battle from the dropdown, click "Transfer". Click on the Chevron icon in the center ( that shows your current rank) and then select "Season Leaders".

 

Yes, it's not very intuitive and the leaderboard window also needs work. For instance, you can't select the page, search for players , and you need to scroll down every page to be presented with the option to go to the next one.


Edited by SovietBias, 14 June 2017 - 12:18 AM.


monthey_ #11 Posted 14 June 2017 - 12:19 AM

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Ah nice, thanks mate^^

sady3296 #12 Posted 14 June 2017 - 06:40 AM

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[edited]... so I guess I have to actually farm more than 6-7 points a stage.
For 2 months... For a little bit better equipment for 1 tank.

Homer_J #13 Posted 14 June 2017 - 07:48 AM

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View PostSovietBias, on 13 June 2017 - 11:35 PM, said:

It's not a glitch, it's by design: Because players that don't meet a minimum number of points are excluded from the rankings, the playerbase from where the top 10% ( and next 15% and 25% ) are drawn from shrinks.
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This also means that 90% or more players did not even meet the minimum criteria once Stage 2 began.

 

 

Thanks for the explanation.  It's a shame WG couldn't be bothered to explain this bit.  So it's not 50% of players who will be getting a reasonable number of bonds, it's 50% of 10% of 10% of 10% of 10% ?



ZlatanArKung #14 Posted 14 June 2017 - 07:55 AM

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View PostHomer_J, on 14 June 2017 - 07:48 AM, said:

 

Thanks for the explanation.  It's a shame WG couldn't be bothered to explain this bit.  So it's not 50% of players who will be getting a reasonable number of bonds, it's 50% of 10% of 10% of 10% of 10% ?

 

Number of players in league one will just decrease more and more.

It wouldn't surprise me if it was less then 1000 at end of stage 4.



SovietBias #15 Posted 14 June 2017 - 11:27 AM

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View PostHomer_J, on 14 June 2017 - 06:48 AM, said:

 

Thanks for the explanation.  It's a shame WG couldn't be bothered to explain this bit.  So it's not 50% of players who will be getting a reasonable number of bonds, it's 50% of 10% of 10% of 10% of 10% ?

 

Yes it's 50% from those with more than 16 points, by the end of stage 4, which is the current cutoff at Stage 4. As an example,  let's say I only play to rank 2 each stage, I will get 200 bonds per stage and nothing else. I will be present in the Stage 1 rankings (cutoff is 2) and probably will be bottom 50% . From Stage 2 onwards I will disappear from ranking list, because I have always less points than the minimum. As far as distribution of those bonus bonds at the end, it is as if I had never played. Therefore the pool of players from which 10% is calculated is necessarily smaller.

 

From Stage 1 to Stage 2 around 10% around remained. If the Stage 3 began now, only those with 10 points would be considered for rankings. By looking at the current leader boards, that is somewhere in the middle of the what is now the Silver League( next 15% after top 10%), so I'm guessing 20% of the current ranked players would remain. And yes, a silver league player in stage 2 would be bottom 50% at the start of stage 3,just like OP went from top 10% to bottom 50%.



marin151 #16 Posted 14 June 2017 - 05:58 PM

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reward system is to bad if i'm getting this right.

So there is 4 stage and 3 leagues, and after every stage 50% of the players are off and not able to compete in next stage. 

 

1. stage- 50% out of 100% that started playing ranked at first stage are going in next stage.

2.stage- now there is 50% out of 50% from 1.stage, so baisiclly 25% are going int next stage

3.stage- out of 25% again 50% are going foward so it is 12,5%

4. stage- 12,5% out of 100% from 1.stage are compeating to get in league 1,2,3 and only 6,25%(out of 100% from 1.stage) are going to get there and win rewards (rule: first 10%/ next15% /next25%)

Out of that 6,25% from starting 100% a are getting rewards and placed into leagues like this:

league 1- 1.25% players of EU region (out of that 100% from 1.stage)

league 2- 1.875% 

league 3- 3.125%

 

And rest of us?!  Well we can enjoy are big fats juciy nothing, basicly most of the player are just wasting credits and time on ranked and they will not get much out of it. Sure they will get some bonds but is it worth it since they will not be able to buy equipment even after couple of seasons (months of playing). If you are not in top 12.5% players, to be fair all are great players since they come there and all have chance to get into that 6.25%, ranked are not worth of compeating if all this is right what im writing. 

To much time and credist should be invested for basicly non existing rewards, i dont count 100k credits and 9 premium consumable as rewards since most of the players spend even more credits playing ranked then worth of that reward.

So if i'm right thise mode will lose players very soon bc most of the players will see that they are just wasting credits and time since they are not able to get rewards...

 

IDK if i get this right so im kind of asking and making statment here, WG ofc faild to explain that very good like every time, looks like they are using google to translate it to english from russian 



Achibot #17 Posted 14 June 2017 - 06:13 PM

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I think some people are still just a little confused on some of the minor details. The cutoffs for being shown on the Leaderboard at the end of each respective stage are 2,6,10,16.

 

Example:

 

Achibot plays Ranked Battles in Stage 1 and gets 2 points. He is cutoff from the published Leaderboard along with all other players on 3 points or below at the end of the stage. You now need to be in the Top 10% of players with more than 4 points to be in League 1.

 

Achibot can still return to the rankings if he gets 6 points this week. This would only help people above Achibot so he's going to stick with his Rank 2 idea so that at least his cost per bond remains low. Once other players realise this, Ranked Battles become almost impossible to do well in, bitterness ensues. Indeed as more and more players realise this and drop out fewer and fewer of those above them will qualify for a prize.....

 

:popcorn:


Edited by Achibot, 14 June 2017 - 06:49 PM.


spuriousmonkey #18 Posted 14 June 2017 - 06:31 PM

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what can you win?

arjun69 #19 Posted 14 June 2017 - 06:38 PM

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incorrect

the cutoff points are 2, 6, 10, 16



Achibot #20 Posted 14 June 2017 - 06:53 PM

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View Postarjun69, on 14 June 2017 - 05:38 PM, said:

incorrect

the cutoff points are 2, 6, 10, 16

 

Edited, thanks. It doesn't matter to my main point though, which is that as more and more people drop off, more and more other people will realise they can no longer place either as the competition increases and will also drop off, etc etc How many people ending this week on 6 points will still think they can win anything and carry on investing their time and silver? How many who end next week on 10? At this point I'd be surprised if there were 2,000 people on the Leaderboard at the end and half of those will be getting nothing.....

Edited by Achibot, 14 June 2017 - 06:55 PM.





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