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savizudis #1 Posted 13 June 2017 - 11:07 PM

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Hello.

why you did this nonsense ?

Wasn't possible just to fix a view range to new needs, and maybe shift  tiers ?

Original VK28 before 8.4v - was hard to play, and that was good, chalenging, interesting. 
Even baltes in 10-12tier was ok with him.
It was posible to act as scout even wihout dmg, to move, do buisines, be anoying to high level artys as team neeeds, and it was possible even to help team in high levels to detrack to do even some dmg, damage crew of tanks... 

Now you changed this tank to something misserable.
11 - tousands baltes 60-70% i did with vk28 !!
~30% with tier 3 pzII tank (i stoped playing pz cuz you (WG) changed situaction to that tank, drasticaly - added abnormal armored oponent tanks and it was imposible to pen anything or play as it was  5years ago...)

 

then i found tank VK28 - abandoned tank, at the time it was totaly different:
- last in tree (no one grinds, thast perfect)
- hard controlable, it looked like chalange every time (every time landshaft, hils was as tactical object to this tank )

- thanks to speed it was fun to ram oponents, and now... anyone just anyone runs away turns liek some mofo and avoids this new slow mo pig vk..

- expensive, 

in past, still it wasnt worst, it bringed to me different gameplay and fun in wery wide tier batles, every batle was different cause tiers was extremely diferent from 5 to max.

Now, to me its trash can. I dont like those "pissguns" - spamy guns - i never played wiht those guns, and i wont use them after this nerf 

Now I tootaly droped to play 10tier 8tier 7tier 6tier other tanks too. Even tho these tanks are not realeated to update (no nerf no bufs).
You killed my joy - on this game, and i dont want to bother myself, unless you fix vk28 so it could feeel like in old times, before 8.4 version. It doesnt mather even if tank would be fixed to couple of  tiers in matchmaking, just bring it back.. Other tanks were just to fill up holes while VK28 is down. You droped my fun with VK28, i droped playing with all other tanks. RIP vk, im conecting to new batles with 0 shels and all stock crew.. 0 spots just taking some most abandoned map corner and puting him in there to die alone..


Now i dont have, any at all wish, nor joy, to play TANKS, at all...
I just want to bring back my vk28... i very very hardly accepted all nerf that happened past 8.4v version to VK28, i started to buy gasoline to compensate loses, even shocolate, droped some heavy items... But now You just ended story to this tank in my hands, totaly.

Do it as tier 7 or tier 8 tank ! Real scout old fashion VK28.. 

Just please bring it back or even alitle bit buffed as it was before version 8.4. And i mean, top speed, armor and 10mm gun, accuracy. 

View range, yes i saw it was a problem cause all maps mostly were lighted up in past, and you started to fix this by lover view range (thats good idea), but why the hell you ruinned all other stats for tank ?? Its not aceptable.

Make it again a special tank, wihtout tree continuity as it was 5y ago, put it in some apendix, make it underdog in higher tier, but bring it back - bring back an old gameplay, joy........


I wont spent any more time grinding any other tank that could be similar as VK28 was before.
I wont spent more time on game, and already im playing less and leess especialy after  8.4v nerfs to this tank.
I wont play at all any other tanks. Sorry only VK if its playable. ANd no i wont go and do some shitspoting with him, there are plently other scouts for that.
If it is going same way unchanged as it is now, ill eventualy quit. Already wrote to suport about my acc deletion.

If its not going to be fixed already Planing to sell acc.
No i wont delete account i sell it. Too much premium was invested to grind crew for VK28.
I want that back even symbolicly. 


Fix this, PLEASE,.. think out of box, but fix it, to US to VK28 hard players...

Cheers.


Edited by savizudis, 15 June 2017 - 11:26 PM.


Achibot #2 Posted 13 June 2017 - 11:12 PM

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Capt_MugPunter #3 Posted 13 June 2017 - 11:47 PM

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I agree wholeheartedly with the OP's sentiment even if I can't follow some of the words.

Mav75 #4 Posted 14 June 2017 - 12:11 AM

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Miss the 10,5 cm gun.

 



Achibot #5 Posted 14 June 2017 - 02:13 AM

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Always a shame when a unique tank goes down. :honoring:

tankzman #6 Posted 14 June 2017 - 02:19 AM

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L2P

Pandabird #7 Posted 14 June 2017 - 02:34 AM

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I agree OP, it's absolutely disgusting what they keep doing to the unique tanks.


We had a killer autoloader, a TD pancake and a fun derpmobile at tier 6, all nerfed to oblivion to make way for boring clone premiums, 20mm of extra armor slapped on at a time.


Cabo_ose #8 Posted 14 June 2017 - 06:17 AM

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5156 battles in just one tank?

Mav75 #9 Posted 14 June 2017 - 06:23 AM

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View PostCabo_ose, on 14 June 2017 - 07:17 AM, said:

5156 battles in just one tank?

 

You never heard of Tazilon over at the NA servers? He has over 58k battles in the VK 28.01.

Cabo_ose #10 Posted 14 June 2017 - 06:29 AM

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View PostMav75, on 14 June 2017 - 06:23 AM, said:

 

You never heard of Tazilon over at the NA servers? He has over 58k battles in the VK 28.01.

 

I thought the those are legends... I am not saying that is a bad thing since I want to do the same.

PowJay #11 Posted 14 June 2017 - 07:43 AM

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Who's the one who played the tier II tank exclusively? Probably back before the newbie protection kicked in? It was a variation on Scarlet O'Hara, but there are so many.


 

I recognise that playing so many tanks is a weakness on the one hand, but learning how they work is first hand is also a strength. On-topic, I never got on with the VK, but I wholeheartedly agree that I have kept a number of tanks because of their uniqueness and it is a shame when WG mess with that.



Hedgehog1963 #12 Posted 14 June 2017 - 07:56 AM

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I'm pretty sure that comparing the loss of a tank in WoT to honouring the war dead is a pretty poor show.

 

I understand OP.  My most favoured tank was the T-50.  I happily play all evening in it.  The speed and agility was second to none. Practically invisible. Never was about the gun with that thing.  Even the first iteration of "physics" enhanced it once I figured out how to handle it.  So they basically cut the engine power and lowered the top speed and it just became an ordinary tank.

I also loved the T-50-2 and they took that away completely.  Mt-25 is entertaining but nowhere near as good and I've had to train a radio operator.

 

At least you got all those games in with your VK.  More fortunate than I.                                                                                                                               



DuncaN_101 #13 Posted 14 June 2017 - 08:56 AM

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View PostPowJay, on 14 June 2017 - 07:43 AM, said:

Who's the one who played the tier II tank exclusively? Probably back before the newbie protection kicked in? It was a variation on Scarlet O'Hara, but there are so many.


 

I recognise that playing so many tanks is a weakness on the one hand, but learning how they work is first hand is also a strength. On-topic, I never got on with the VK, but I wholeheartedly agree that I have kept a number of tanks because of their uniqueness and it is a shame when WG mess with that.

You mean stat padder in his Pz b2? 



Excavatus #14 Posted 14 June 2017 - 08:59 AM

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I loved the old VK28.01 deeply,

Sold it after the 9.18

 

Without the 10.5

That tank is nothing but an ordinary, average, useless, no fun tank..

 

Taking out the derp gun from VK is horrible.

WG must shame... Killed a unique tank.. like killing the bulldog... or taking away the autoloader from SPIC..

 

I am not saying they are bad tanks now.. (not for the VK.. that is absolutely garbage now)

Bulldog is nice.. SPIC is very nice..

But they are not unique anymore..

 

If you ask me..

with the one shot guns..

bulldog, T49 and Sheridan are all the same..

with slightly different mobility and HP..

they are all the same.. same play style.. same tactics..

 

Foch you WG,

Just give everyone the same tank.. in a full open map.. divided into 3 flat corridors..

and make the tanks that they cannot pen eachother from front with AP..

 

This is the game you want I guess..

 

On the other hand, I played only a handful of games in the last month..

why?..

 

Because of ships..

They still didnt foch up the ships as much as the tonks..

 

Ships are serenity, ships are happines..

 

For now. !



Jack_Sparroxx #15 Posted 14 June 2017 - 09:22 AM

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Buuuhuuuhuuuu.

 

I bought back the VK28.01 a couple of weeks ago after selling it like 4 years ago, and its vastly superior now then what it used to be. Yea it dosnt have the "for the lulz" derp gun any more thats, lets be honest was utter crapafter the HEAT nerf some years ago, but its now got a very competetive normal gun on a good platform. Not to mention the fact you get normal match making with scout camo AND you can mount v-stabs which you cant on any other class of tanks at tier 6. And you can ram the crap out of other tanks if you get the chance, rammed a WZ-131 for 436 in one game, a tank that a tier higher then the VK28.01.

 

I 3-marked it in 80-90 some games and I derped around in it for the lulz till I got close to 90%. I Got no clue what my average DPG is since I picked it up again,  but I suspect its probably above 1200 plus roughly 800 in assist. 

 

So yea.. VK28.01 is clearly a crap tonk. 



Excavatus #16 Posted 14 June 2017 - 10:21 AM

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View PostJack_Sparroxx, on 14 June 2017 - 11:22 AM, said:

Buuuhuuuhuuuu.

 

I bought back the VK28.01 a couple of weeks ago after selling it like 4 years ago, and its vastly superior now then what it used to be. Yea it dosnt have the "for the lulz" derp gun any more thats, lets be honest was utter crapafter the HEAT nerf some years ago, but its now got a very competetive normal gun on a good platform. Not to mention the fact you get normal match making with scout camo AND you can mount v-stabs which you cant on any other class of tanks at tier 6. And you can ram the crap out of other tanks if you get the chance, rammed a WZ-131 for 436 in one game, a tank that a tier higher then the VK28.01.

 

I 3-marked it in 80-90 some games and I derped around in it for the lulz till I got close to 90%. I Got no clue what my average DPG is since I picked it up again,  but I suspect its probably above 1200 plus roughly 800 in assist. 

 

So yea.. VK28.01 is clearly a crap tonk. 

 

the new VK being a good tank or a crap one is totally subjective... I respect your opinion about that.

But the new VK is just an ordinary Light tank like as many other.

the VK with 10.5cm was a total unique tank with a very unique play style..

and that was the fun you can only get from a couple tanks.

The new VK can be fun, but same fun can be obtained from many other LTs.. in the same way.

 

That is the point of it.. they killed the VK, and put a generic clone in the same name... that is the only same thing new and old VK has...

 

It is like removing the derp from KV2, or SU 152..

with the top gun, SU 152 is just another 122mm russion tank, nothing special...  (which I preferred in the end because of the inconsistency of the derp gun and sold it finally because there is nothing special about the SU 152 anymore for me)


Edited by Excavatus, 14 June 2017 - 10:22 AM.


PowJay #17 Posted 14 June 2017 - 10:22 AM

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View PostDuncaN_101, on 14 June 2017 - 07:56 AM, said:

You mean stat padder in his Pz b2? 

No. He exclusively played a US tank. The M2 Med I think. It was tier II



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View PostHedgehog1963, on 14 June 2017 - 06:56 AM, said:

I'm pretty sure that comparing the loss of a tank in WoT to honouring the war dead is a pretty poor show.

 

                                                                                                                    

There's always one snowflake easily offended. 



Hedgehog1963 #19 Posted 14 June 2017 - 04:53 PM

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View PostFighto, on 14 June 2017 - 12:31 PM, said:

There's always one snowflake easily offended. 

 

Or maybe I appreciate sacrifices made for me and you that you can't.

 

Now you be sure to have a nice safe and free life, courtesy of those guys under the ground.

 

Whatever you do do, try some originality.


Edited by Hedgehog1963, 14 June 2017 - 04:55 PM.


Balc0ra #20 Posted 14 June 2017 - 05:08 PM

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I don't mind that it would get it back. But like with the ELC and how the turret works with or without the 90mm. They need to tone down some other aspects of it with that on. Because as top tier, with that camo and mobility. It will raise hell more so then a E100 in a tier 1 game. So if they reduced the mobility a tad when the 10.5 is mounted, and gave it really crappy camo when firing it.... then I would not be upset to see that back.




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