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qpranger #1 Posted 14 June 2017 - 05:51 PM

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Flamethrower tanks?

Scabolcz #2 Posted 14 June 2017 - 05:54 PM

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wremise #3 Posted 14 June 2017 - 05:55 PM

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well, at least he mission to make some tanks burn would be easy

Achibot #4 Posted 14 June 2017 - 05:57 PM

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"We're too close for AP, switching to HEAT"

 

Don't know why that popped into my head. Props if you get the reference!



Aikl #5 Posted 14 June 2017 - 06:00 PM

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Active and close combat?

 

Spoiler

 



Zorbiitti #6 Posted 14 June 2017 - 06:02 PM

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Yeaaaaaahh!

That's something I have dreamed of since 2011.

AliceUnchained #7 Posted 14 June 2017 - 08:02 PM

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View PostAchibot, on 14 June 2017 - 05:57 PM, said:

"We're too close for AP, switching to HEAT"

 

Don't know why that popped into my head. Props if you get the reference!

 

You are aware HEAT rounds have nothing to do heat/(extreme) high temperatures? If it's a reference to a movie or something, then I definitely do not get it.

Achibot #8 Posted 14 June 2017 - 08:04 PM

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"He's too close for missiles Goose, I'm switching to guns"

 

If you don't get it now it just means I'm a bit older than you. Oh and I didn't think "...switching to flamethrower" fit the cadence so I improvised. I did say it was obscure!


Edited by Achibot, 14 June 2017 - 08:07 PM.


AliceUnchained #9 Posted 14 June 2017 - 08:08 PM

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View PostAchibot, on 14 June 2017 - 08:04 PM, said:

"He's too close for missiles Goose, I'm switching to guns"

 

If you don't get it now it just means I'm a bit older than you.

 

It's been quite a while since I watched Top Gun actually. And the suggestion HEAT is better at close range compared to AP really does make little sense, to be honest. Anyway, don't let me darken the mood here as I'm sure others will appreciate the reference. 

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Oh dear our CC is losing his marbles. 

xX_All_is_Dust_Xx #11 Posted 14 June 2017 - 10:40 PM

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Enforcer1975 #12 Posted 14 June 2017 - 11:02 PM

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Can't get any closer...too bad this was quite some time ago ( T6 LT in a T9 battle ) and my victim wasn't a Dinger either...



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View PostAliceUnchained, on 14 June 2017 - 08:02 PM, said:

 

You are aware HEAT rounds have nothing to do heat/(extreme) high temperatures? If it's a reference to a movie or something, then I definitely do not get it.

 

Actually, they do. Extreme temperatures melt the metal, which is turned into a jet, which penetrated armour. OK, that's not what the acronym stands for, but "heat" is definitely involved and I doubt they dreamed up that acronym by accident.

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View Postqpranger, on 14 June 2017 - 05:51 PM, said:

Flamethrower tanks?

 

If cross team chat was reinstated you could flame the enemy all you want, to paraphrase a famous saying 'the keyboard is mightier than the tank'.

Edited by 250swb, 15 June 2017 - 08:22 AM.


Kozzy #15 Posted 15 June 2017 - 08:25 AM

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View Postqpranger, on 14 June 2017 - 04:51 PM, said:

Perfect solution to encourage more active and close combat

 

Really?  With all the city maps and corridor/bottlenecks in this game you want even CLOSER combat?  Jeez, any closer and we will fist-fighting in each other's tanks!



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View Postmagkiln, on 14 June 2017 - 11:48 PM, said:

 

Actually, they do. Extreme temperatures melt the metal, which is turned into a jet, which penetrated armour. OK, that's not what the acronym stands for, but "heat" is definitely involved and I doubt they dreamed up that acronym by accident.

 

​High Explosive Anti Tank - is a shaped charge with a Copper Cone/Liner to act as a high velocity slug (some nations use an Cu/Al alloy) which punches through anything. Any spin (barrels with rifling) de-stabilises the jet. Any "heat" is a by-product of the explosive reaction. The possible "Melting" effect is more likely to occur with a DU rod (APFSDS) projectile. 

Edited by RaptorAbt, 15 June 2017 - 09:39 AM.


qpranger #17 Posted 15 June 2017 - 09:45 AM

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View PostKozzy, on 15 June 2017 - 09:25 AM, said:

 

Really?  With all the city maps and corridor/bottlenecks in this game you want even CLOSER combat?  Jeez, any closer and we will fist-fighting in each other's tanks!

 

Sir is afraid to get close and personal?

Sir prefers red line "action"? :)



AliceUnchained #18 Posted 15 June 2017 - 10:06 AM

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View Postmagkiln, on 15 June 2017 - 12:48 AM, said:

 

Actually, they do. Extreme temperatures melt the metal, which is turned into a jet, which penetrated armour. OK, that's not what the acronym stands for, but "heat" is definitely involved and I doubt they dreamed up that acronym by accident.

 

Not at all. I suggest you do some research. The jet is formed due to a focused blast (shaped charge, look it up) and as a result of extreme pressure, not temperatures. There's no melting whatsoever involved. HEAT stands for High Explosive Anti Tank, and as mentioned any heat is a byproduct (standard AP rounds definitely will also generate some heat due to friction and energy changes involved on impact). As to why it was chosen like that is anyone's guess, but I suppose it's possible they thought it would be funny misleading people (you really aren't the only one thinking heat has anything to do with the workings of HEAT rounds).

Kozzy #19 Posted 15 June 2017 - 10:15 AM

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View Postqpranger, on 15 June 2017 - 08:45 AM, said:

 

Sir is afraid to get close and personal?

Sir prefers red line "action"? :)

 

I personally prefer a mixture of ranges, using camo, spotting, accuracy etc.  I'm sure you will be able to ascertain from my stats (i.e. average tanks spotted and average deaths per battle) that I do not tend to redline snipe very often at all.  Face hugging in city maps doesn't really entail a lot of skill, you see, so I tend to prefer situations where skill is a little more useful. 

 

I believe those preferring close range engagements, choke-points and corridors etc to be in the minority, at least 'vocally' on the forums.



ZlatanArKung #20 Posted 15 June 2017 - 10:28 AM

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Heat ammo produce some heat.
Roughly 500-600 degrees Celsius. Which is not enough to "melt metal".
https://en.m.wikiped...e#Munroe_effect




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