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Tarix819 #1 Posted 15 June 2017 - 07:54 PM

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Hello all,

 

I have made a few posts in the past about a rework for the British Tech Tree, and after extensive research, analysis of blueprints and odd discoveries here is my (probably) final version of what a fully extended British tree might look like:

 

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Please note:

 

-I have replaced all fake tanks (FV215b (120), FV207, Conqueror Gun Carriage) with historical ones.

-FV215b (120) lovers don't worry, the Conqueror Spaced Armour would play basically identically just with a central mounted turret.

-CGC lovers don't worry, the FV3806 would be able to fit the same 234mm Howitzer.

-FV207 lovers don't worry, the FV3802 would fit the same 6-inch gun as the FV207.

-FV215b (183) has been renamed to FV215, the project's actual name.

-Challenger has been turned into a Medium Tank like it was historically. 

-TOG II placed at tier V is NOT the same Tank as the TOG II* (Tier VI premium).

-I know there are a LOT of AT series tanks in the tree, but trust me, they are all pretty unique in some way or another, and would be interesting additions to the game (giving players a wider choice range).

-AT 18 historically would have just used a flamethrower, but in WoT it could mount a high DPM 120mm gun, as it makes more sense to go after the Tortoise than the FV215 does.

-FV201 is very similar to the premium FV201 (A45) but to make it different would use a 20-pdr gun (Kind of like the situation with the Pz.kpfw VII and VK 72.01 K).

-TV-150000 and Scorpion 90 would be balanced by high-penetration HESH rounds which do high alpha for its caliber, keeping them competitive at tier IX and X.

-If you want historical images or data just ask.

 

So, thoughts?

 


Edited by Tarix819, 15 June 2017 - 07:57 PM.


Grand_Moff_Tano #2 Posted 15 June 2017 - 08:02 PM

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Conqueror GC iirc was a blueprint.



Tarix819 #3 Posted 15 June 2017 - 08:03 PM

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View PostChipmunk_of_Vengeance, on 15 June 2017 - 07:02 PM, said:

 

Conqueror GC iirc was a blueprint.

 

That's what WG states.

 

That image is an FV3805 not a CGC.

 

CGC is made up by WG.



Grand_Moff_Tano #4 Posted 15 June 2017 - 08:04 PM

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View PostTarix819, on 15 June 2017 - 07:03 PM, said:

 

That's what WG states.

 

That image is an FV3805 not a CGC.

 

CGC is made up by WG.

 

CGC is a blueprint.

Tarix819 #5 Posted 15 June 2017 - 08:05 PM

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View PostChipmunk_of_Vengeance, on 15 June 2017 - 07:04 PM, said:

 

CGC is a blueprint.

 

Show me then.

leggasiini #6 Posted 15 June 2017 - 08:08 PM

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View PostChipmunk_of_Vengeance, on 15 June 2017 - 09:04 PM, said:

 

CGC is a blueprint.

 

CGC is a fake. The 234 mm howitzer was no longer in service when Conqueror itself was designed, let alone a SPG based on it.

 

Also if it is real then show it to us.



CenturionA1 #7 Posted 15 June 2017 - 08:09 PM

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looks amazing, so it will never happen.

Tarix819 #8 Posted 15 June 2017 - 08:10 PM

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View PostCenturionA1, on 15 June 2017 - 07:09 PM, said:

looks amazing, so it will never happen.

 

We can only hope :D

Pansenmann #9 Posted 15 June 2017 - 08:13 PM

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I wants FV 301 nao.

Neyaru #10 Posted 15 June 2017 - 08:14 PM

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TOG I and TOG II as standard tanks. Why going further the line if it happens?

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My bad, FV207 was the blueprint based on the A45 Conqueror chassis :P

Tarix819 #12 Posted 15 June 2017 - 08:23 PM

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View PostChipmunk_of_Vengeance, on 15 June 2017 - 07:18 PM, said:

My bad, FV207 was the blueprint based on the A45 Conqueror chassis :P

 

Pretty sure FV207 never made it to blueprint stage either.



Grand_Moff_Tano #13 Posted 15 June 2017 - 08:25 PM

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View PostTarix819, on 15 June 2017 - 07:23 PM, said:

 

Pretty sure FV207 never made it to blueprint stage either.

 

FV207 never left the drawing board but it was a blueprint.

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View PostChipmunk_of_Vengeance, on 15 June 2017 - 07:25 PM, said:

 

FV207 never left the drawing board but it was a blueprint.

 

No, WG says: 'An SPG variant on the basis of the А45 Conqueror. It was planned to mount either a 105-mm, 140-mm, or 152-mm howitzer in a closed armored cabin. The vehicle existed only in blueprints.'

 

This is a complete lie, which has been copy-pasted onto Wikipedia and other such sites.

 

There are no FV207 blueprints anywhere as of yet, just like the CGC, which means it probably isn't real until sufficient evidence comes to light.

 

If it did exist, it was a concept only, otherwise we would have the blueprints.



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View PostTarix819, on 15 June 2017 - 07:31 PM, said:

 

No, WG says: 'An SPG variant on the basis of the А45 Conqueror. It was planned to mount either a 105-mm, 140-mm, or 152-mm howitzer in a closed armored cabin. The vehicle existed only in blueprints.'

 

This is a complete lie, which has been copy-pasted onto Wikipedia and other such sites.

 

There are no FV207 blueprints anywhere as of yet, just like the CGC, which means it probably isn't real until sufficient evidence comes to light.

 

If it did exist, it was a concept only, otherwise we would have the blueprints.

 

The FV207 was an actual blueprint, you'll probably need to go to somewhere like Bovington assuming they have it.

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View PostChipmunk_of_Vengeance, on 15 June 2017 - 07:31 PM, said:

 

The FV207 was an actual blueprint.

 

Show me then :D

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View PostTarix819, on 15 June 2017 - 07:32 PM, said:

 

Show me then :D

 

Read the edit.

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View PostChipmunk_of_Vengeance, on 15 June 2017 - 07:33 PM, said:

 

Read the edit.

 

If Bovington had it, we would be able to see it, just as Bovington showed the blueprints of the AT series tanks, and the image of the FV205, a similar vehicle.

 

Image result for FV205


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View PostTarix819, on 15 June 2017 - 07:35 PM, said:

 

If Bovington had it, we would be able to see it, just as Bovington showed the blueprints of the AT series tanks, and the image of the FV205, a similar vehicle.

 

Image result for FV205

 

Sometimes they don't. But it will either be Bovington or any other are with an Archive.

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View PostChipmunk_of_Vengeance, on 15 June 2017 - 07:37 PM, said:

 

Sometimes they don't. But it will either be Bovington or any other are with an Archive.

 

But you don't know that. And there are no sources anywhere of the vehicle existing other than a sketchy sentence in the WoT client written by some Russian. There is no website on the internet that details the project in any more than a single repeated sentence, and if it did exist in blueprints, we would have far more information, yet we have basically nothing.

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