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davidblader #1 Posted 15 June 2017 - 08:42 PM

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Hello! The following topic is just a proposal. I of course know that WG has other more important things to update, but it's just an idea to see people's opinion. Thanks for understanding.

 

Sweden is currently the newest country in WoT. In the past, people have often suggested Finnish tanks as well. The thing is that Finland has way to few tanks for a full tree. The biggest thing you could make out of it is a mini-tree, if WG is ever going to consider such things. But, another way to add Finland, and even Norway, is the one I am talking about today: Merging them with the Swedish tree to create a new Nordic Tree.

 

Here are the vehicles that might be added if this is ever going to be made:

 

Finland (Finnish Line)

 

Tier 2: T-26E

The T-26E, as the Finns called it, was not actually a T-26, but a British Vickers, similar to the Soviet tank. That's why it was named so.

The tank was a modification of the Vickers. When the Finns bought them, they were unarmed, so the Finns armed them themselves.

The first gun would be a 37mm, and the upgrade a 45mm Soviet gun. They got used against the Soviets.

http://ftr.wot-news....-forces-in-ww2/

 

Tier 3: More options

Tier 3 is a problem, as there is no current candidate. One option would be, evolving to the Swedish tier 3 from here, adding a new Swedish tank in, to complete the line, or include a captured Soviet tank. If the latter would be the case, even though it would probably be the most hated option, I would suggest adding the BT-5, because it's not in the game yet.

http://ftr.wot-news....-forces-in-ww2/

 

Tier 4: BT-42
Here we have the most Finnish tank of the line: The BT-42. It is a modified BT-7: a much bigger turret was added, together with a 114mm howitzer. It would be similar to the BT-7 art., just a lot stronger and may even be a tier 5.

http://ftr.wot-news....-forces-in-ww2/

 

           T-28 ''Postijuna''

During the war, Finland had captured more T-28s. They were nicknamed Postijuna. Some sources mention an up-armored version of the tank, which could be added to Finland, 

http://www.jaegerpla....net/TANKS6.htm

 

Tier 5: ''Sturmi''

The Sturmi, as it was nicknamed, was the Finnish version of the StuG III G.

The Finnish made modifications to the StuGs that they used against the USSR (and that saw major succes)

Even though many will say the modifications were not very important, which is probably true, they were numerous: Improved armor on the frontal lower plate, removed side-skirts, added logs to the side for extra protection, replaced machine gun, change of the spare roadwheels' location, probably even more. These mods made the vehicle look different from the German StuG.

http://www.andreasla...net/sturmi.html

http://ftr.wot-news....-forces-in-ww2/

 

Luftvärnskanonvagn L-62 Anti II - a Finnish AA SPG. Not sure what tier it would be, but would either be a light or a TD - https://thearmoredpa...finnish-aa-spg/

 

T-26 Mortar - no sure if it would work - Source: A FTR page which's link isn't allowed: It's called ''Finnish 120mm mortar on T-26''

 

Norway

 

Norway does only have one tank. It is a light tank, and could be used to complete a possible Swedish light line, if there are enough tanks for such a thing.

It is the NM-116, which is a modified Chaffe. The main modification is the gun. The original gun got replaced with a 90mm French gun. The tank also has a laser ragefinder, which was also added to the Swedish Strv, If some people consider it a problem, it could simply be removed. I don't currently know of what tier the tank will be, but it is for sure going to be higher than the normal Chaffe, because of its gun and other modifications.

https://en.wikipedia..._Chaffee#NM-116

 

Other possible nations:

Estonia?

I know you're probably like ''what the hell'' right now, but Estonia could also hardly be added with one vehicle to this tree. This however, only is WG adds wheeled vehicles to the game, which they actually said they might, with the one from the Convoy Mode being a ''prototype''. Here's info for the wheeled vehicles https://thearmoredpa...nals-qa-part-2/

If wheeled vehicles are ever gonna be added, Estonia might have a low tier candidate for the Nordic Tree proposal: The Arsenal Crossley.

This armored car, which's armament was a 37mm Hotchkiss SA, was produced in Estonia. 13 were built, in two different versions. The other one is too weak for the game (armament is a 7.7mm MG)

https://en.wikipedia...rsenal_Crossley

Oh, and I am prepared for ''Estonia cannot into nordic'' jokes....Estonia might not be a nordic country, but if this thing is ever gonna be added, I think Estonians will prefer adding it to a nordic tree rather than the Soviet or German one.

 

Thanks for reading! Feel free to leave your opinions in the comments. Remember that it is just a little suggestion, I am not saying that this must be added to the game or anything, and I know there is other stuff to be updated too! :)

 

 

 


Edited by davidblader, 16 June 2017 - 10:44 AM.


Browarszky #2 Posted 15 June 2017 - 11:16 PM

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The most immediate problem I foresee is what about crew nations?

ricoBenitez1 #3 Posted 16 June 2017 - 07:36 AM

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And Estonia is a Nordic country since when.

And what about Denmark ?



ZlatanArKung #4 Posted 16 June 2017 - 07:41 AM

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Eh?
Finland have a bunch of copy tanks and Norwegian lack tanks.

Nah, not interesting in any way really.

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View PostricoBenitez1, on 16 June 2017 - 07:36 AM, said:

And Estonia is a Nordic country since when.

And what about Denmark ?

 

We are a small country, we do not make tanks our self as i know.. We use Leopard today....

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View PostTHF_DK, on 16 June 2017 - 06:52 AM, said:

 

We are a small country, we do not make tanks our self as i know.. We use Leopard today....

 

I know i am from Denmark too ohh we made 1 tankis thingy it was parked outside frihedsmuseet until it sadly burned down.

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View PostricoBenitez1, on 16 June 2017 - 07:59 AM, said:

 

I know i am from Denmark too ohh we made 1 tankis thingy it was parked outside frihedsmuseet until it sadly burned down.

 

As far as I know, Denmark didn't produce any tanks. I don't know if they even used tanks of others, but no one would want complete clones. They might have used armored cars though. I am gonna take a look and see if I find anything. If I do, I will edit it.

EDIT: I haven't found anything. Do you know any armored cars or tank plans of Denmark?


Edited by davidblader, 16 June 2017 - 10:01 AM.


ricoBenitez1 #8 Posted 16 June 2017 - 10:09 AM

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View Postdavidblader, on 16 June 2017 - 08:57 AM, said:

 

As far as I know, Denmark didn't produce any tanks. I don't know if they even used tanks of others, but no one would want complete clones. They might have used armored cars though. I am gonna take a look and see if I find anything. If I do, I will edit it.

EDIT: I haven't found anything. Do you know any armored cars or tank plans of Denmark?

 

It was one the resistance did buil and hid until liberation and called armoured tank well it was more  a armoured car 

be ready to laugh  http://acdn.byggetek.../82720_1_xl.jpg

 

we did not build any tanks we used tanks we got/bought after the war. 

So a Danish tech tree would be utterly clones with we dont need in this game.

list of tanks we used.

http://forsvaret.dk/...er fra 1945.pdf

 


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View PostricoBenitez1, on 16 June 2017 - 10:09 AM, said:

 

It was one the resistance did buil and hid until liberation and called armoured tank well it was more  a armoured car 

be ready to laugh  http://acdn.byggetek.../82720_1_xl.jpg

 

we did not build any tanks we used tanks we got/bought after the war. 

So a Danish tech tree would be utterly clones with we dont need in this game.

list of tanks we used.

http://forsvaret.dk/...er fra 1945.pdf

 

 

So you don't have any...too bad. Didn't you have any armored car like that Estonian one?

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View Postdavidblader, on 15 June 2017 - 09:42 PM, said:

... I think Estonians will prefer adding it to a nordic tree rather than the Soviet or German one.

 

 

 

Yes.

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So basically you want more clones in the game...

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View Postdavidblader, on 16 June 2017 - 09:26 AM, said:

 

So you don't have any...too bad. Didn't you have any armored car like that Estonian one?

 

Not acording to the list i postet a link to 

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View PostricoBenitez1, on 16 June 2017 - 10:35 AM, said:

 

Not acording to the list i postet a link to 

 

Wouldn't these be clones or too modern tanks?

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Last thing we need are more stupid clone tanks.

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View Postdavidblader, on 16 June 2017 - 09:42 AM, said:

 

Wouldn't these be clones or too modern tanks?

 

sorry but did you read what i did write.

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 So a Danish tech tree would be utterly clones with we dont need in this game.

 

So yes they would be stupid clones or too modern so no thanks to any one.


Edited by ricoBenitez1, 16 June 2017 - 10:48 AM.


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View PostOld_Viking_DK, on 16 June 2017 - 10:43 AM, said:

Last thing we need are more stupid clone tanks.

 

Which is why WG is starting a Polish tech tree.

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View Postmagkiln, on 16 June 2017 - 10:46 AM, said:

 

Which is why WG is starting a Polish tech tree.

 

Yes cuz they dont listen to what us players are saying.

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we need only BT-42 :)

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View PostDel_Monte_Mies, on 16 June 2017 - 11:42 AM, said:

we need only BT-42 :)

 

That thank is just another clone so no tanks

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View PostricoBenitez1, on 16 June 2017 - 06:36 AM, said:

And Estonia is a Nordic country since when.

And what about Denmark ?

 

Both Estonia and Finland were parts of Sweden for quite some time, same goes for Norway.

Estonia and Finland were also parts of Russia or Sovjet so they could make an appearance there too.






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