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DoubleDmixer #1 Posted 17 June 2017 - 10:01 PM

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its time to remove that type 5 heavy and all that tanks in heavy line with HE guns becouse are to stupid and are ruining game.I cant understand how comme so heavy armored tanks are comming with HE guns you cant pen them for sure and they doing dmg on every tank for sure at least for 500dmg.I cant pen without loading gold and i dont want to think what i need to do if i play with autoloader like in this game with more than half a minuter reloading and he just need to pop up with his depresion and aim just near dont even need to lend near me and will [edited]up  lots of modules on every medium tank.Is it 1482 normal for tier 10 to do on other tier 10???1482 !!!!i bet if he shoot me in my bc 25 on my back will do full dmg........Pls remove it and dont to more experiments with HE ...just watch that pick...

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WindSplitter1 #2 Posted 17 June 2017 - 10:06 PM

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  1. "Everything working as intended"
  2. Big guns typically fire HE. I would guess it is more effective than to fire a large slow AP round. But I might be wrong.
  3. Nice nickname. Maybe you wanna share it with the mods?


Shuddnobetta #3 Posted 17 June 2017 - 10:08 PM

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View Postlittleboobies, on 17 June 2017 - 09:01 PM, said:

its time to remove that type 5 heavy and all that tanks in heavy line with HE guns becouse are to stupid and are ruining game.I cant understand how comme so heavy armored tanks are comming with HE guns you cant pen them for sure and they doing dmg on every tank for sure at least for 500dmg.I cant pen without loading gold and i dont want to think what i need to do if i play with autoloader like in this game with more than half a minuter reloading and he just need to pop up with his depresion and aim just near dont even need to lend near me and will [edited]up  lots of modules on every medium tank.Is it 1482 normal for tier 10 to do on other tier 10???1482 !!!!i bet if he shoot me in my bc 25 on my back will do full dmg........Pls remove it and dont to more experiments with HE ...just watch that pick...

Oh really? I wonder which gaming company came up with that idea?......Hmmmm....thinking...



HeidenSieker #4 Posted 17 June 2017 - 10:16 PM

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View PostWindSplitter1, on 17 June 2017 - 10:06 PM, said:

Nice nickname. Maybe you wanna share it with the mods?

 

Perhaps he doesn't mean "little", but one of these: Sula nebouxii

 

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You wouldn't be such a Tetrax tetrax as to reprot him, would you!

 

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I hope this translates for non-English speakers, but as this is the English-speaking forum I hope you "get" it!


Edited by HeidenSieker, 17 June 2017 - 10:17 PM.


Phobos4321 #5 Posted 17 June 2017 - 10:18 PM

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so lets sum it up

 

arties ruin the game

tds ruins the game

auotloaders ruins the game

scouts ruins the game

meds ruins the game if we remove everything someone believe to ruin the game there would be nothing left

 

arent you a rather good player so tell me why should a batchat need to fight a Type5 frontally ? isnt a batchat fast ? and its standard rounds are pretty much enough for the type5 side and back

 

hey im playing a scout and i demand  to be able to fight the most armored vehicle in the game frontally  while it shouldnt be able to fight back ?

 

i oneshooted Is7 before 2500 damage for a single shell- called ammorack

 

did you even think what a 4005/183 HEsh shell would have done to you ? their damage is 1750, a jpz e100 switching to HE would have 1400 damage too and even 12 more pen than type 5 



WindSplitter1 #6 Posted 17 June 2017 - 10:25 PM

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View PostHeidenSieker, on 17 June 2017 - 09:16 PM, said:

 

Perhaps he doesn't mean "little", but one of these: Sula nebouxii

 

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You wouldn't be such a Tetrax tetrax as to reprot him, would you!

 

Tetrax tetrax, Castuera, Estremadura, Spain 1.jpg

 

I hope this translates for non-English speakers, but as this is the English-speaking forum I hope you "get" it!

 

LMAO

Nishi_Kinuyo #7 Posted 17 June 2017 - 10:26 PM

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Maybe you should've stopped loitering and instead move around?

And imo, it is only justified to blam a BatChât for that much, given that they can delete itself with a single clip, when most of the time a Type 2605 will be doing only 400-500 damage per shot coupled to a 17 second reload.



Thuis001 #8 Posted 17 June 2017 - 10:34 PM

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View PostPhobos4321, on 17 June 2017 - 10:18 PM, said:

did you even think what a 4005/183 HEsh shell would have done to you ? their damage is 1750, a jpz e100 switching to HE would have 1400 damage too and even 12 more pen than type 5 

The Jpz E 100 isn't turreted, doesn't have armor that is as OP as the armor of the Type 5 Heavy, can't turn as fast and is an TD and not an Heavy.

The 4005/183 HESH shells are just OP, I mean, how do you want to protect and HESH (basicly and HE shell with actually some pen) with 1750 alpha

View PostPhobos4321, on 17 June 2017 - 10:18 PM, said:

so lets sum it up

 

arties ruin the game

tds ruins the game

auotloaders ruins the game

scouts ruins the game

meds ruins the game if we remove everything someone believe to ruin the game there would be nothing left

-Arties do indeed ruin the game.

-TD's themself aren't really the problem, the TD's with ridiculous pen/alpha are the problem (see the thing about the HESH shells for exemple)

-Autoloaders being OP, Autoloaders can be dealt with by waiting until they are out of shells in their clip and then kill them (I mean, ok having 900 burst damage in 10 seconds is quite op, but you have quite a long time where you can't do anything)

-Scouts ruining the game? Top tiers, perhaps, one team having a higher tier light then the other, ok I would say that the only thing you can defense here is scouts being underpowered because of Wargaming nerving them into hell so they aren't effective enough but still.

-meds? they aren't OP, maybe some but not as a class.

 



Shuddnobetta #9 Posted 17 June 2017 - 10:42 PM

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View PostHeidenSieker, on 17 June 2017 - 09:16 PM, said:

 

Perhaps he doesn't mean "little", but one of these: Sula nebouxii

 

Blue-footed-booby.jpg

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You wouldn't be such a Tetrax tetrax as to reprot him, would you!

 

Tetrax tetrax, Castuera, Estremadura, Spain 1.jpg

 

I hope this translates for non-English speakers, but as this is the English-speaking forum I hope you "get" it!

 

Actually guy.......that is one of the better posts I have ever seen on this forum.... +several from me.... made me larf :teethhappy:

Phobos4321 #10 Posted 17 June 2017 - 11:23 PM

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View PostThuis001, on 17 June 2017 - 10:34 PM, said:

The Jpz E 100 isn't turreted, doesn't have armor that is as OP as the armor of the Type 5 Heavy, can't turn as fast and is an TD and not an Heavy.  non the less its a T10 tank and that was lilteboobies point "Is it 1482 normal for tier 10 to do on other tier 10???1482 !!!"

The 4005/183 HESH shells are just OP, I mean, how do you want to protect and HESH (basicly and HE shell with actually some pen) with 1750 alpha protect and hesh ? i not understand  - they got some great damage if they pen still thats an if rather long aimtime slow shell velocity and a nice price of 8k per shot im not really sure if it fits the term OP since its pretty much situational

-Arties do indeed ruin the game.  lol a class with almost no impact on the result should be able to ruin the game ?  probably for a stubborn hater-boi  than again ruining the game of your enemies if pretty much your job ...

-TD's themself aren't really the problem, the TD's with ridiculous pen/alpha are the problem (see the thing about the HESH shells for exemple) well talking about pen. just look at T9 tanks you got the Jtiger 354mm the swedish one 350mm the wt auf pz4 334mm and than surprise surprise its t-54, obj 430 -2 Type 61 ... with their 330 mm not the rather big gunned heavies no there come the high dpm meds with such pen.

while for example quite a few T10 heavies surpase the same tier tds in penetration potential  also was the damage of highter tds already nerfed from 850 to 750 also less cover and less open maps  so there isnt really much points to make about tds

-Autoloaders being OP, Autoloaders can be dealt with by waiting until they are out of shells in their clip and then kill them (I mean, ok having 900 burst damage in 10 seconds is quite op, but you have quite a long time where you can't do anything) what autoloaders are you talking about ? a amx 50 100 comes along with 1800 potential damage per clip while most T8 heavies got even only 1600 or less HP, as for a T57 it might just carry 1600 damage per clip  still how many tanks are there around that could kill it within its ~23sec ish reload ?   

-Scouts ruining the game? Top tiers, perhaps, one team having a higher tier light then the other, ok I would say that the only thing you can defense here is scouts being underpowered because of Wargaming nerving them into hell so they aren't effective enough but still.

-meds? they aren't OP, maybe some but not as a class.

 

well you dont seem to get the point : if we remove everything someone believe to ruin the game there would be nothing left

 

 

it isnt about if these claims are just or not its just about if we want to go after emotions of some players

 

i mean ruins the game is pretty much the same as the broken claim  there is no scale to measure it there arent even facts you could base it on its pretty much a "i dont like it" coated in some words to make it look more legit 



teamkill_2014 #11 Posted 17 June 2017 - 11:29 PM

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type 5 gold rounds through the turret rip

Balc0ra #12 Posted 18 June 2017 - 01:53 AM

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No need to remove it. All they have to do is give the premium HE the same damage as the normal HE shell. And either increase the splash, or give it a tiny bit more pen. I don't see a reason to give it that much alpha with those rounds. As giving it more pen will still make it effective, but it won't 1 shot lights or wreck mediums. As it does that better then most tier X TD's atm.

 

Because without that gun. The Type 4 & 5 is the the most useless HT's around. It's a paperweight that can't even pen it self. Type 4's grind for any gun upgrade is by far the worst stock grind in the game. Even worse then a stock Churchill GC.


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CptBarney #13 Posted 18 June 2017 - 07:36 AM

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the Japanese tier 8 premium is very good as well, beats the other op premiums in most or some aspects which is very surprising.

TankkiPoju #14 Posted 18 June 2017 - 08:10 AM

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View PostWindSplitter1, on 17 June 2017 - 10:06 PM, said:

  1. Nice nickname. Maybe you wanna share it with the mods?

 

You funny guy. People can have nicknames like "MurdererOfChildren", but you get upset about boobies. Are you from US, by any chance?

malachi6 #15 Posted 18 June 2017 - 08:26 AM

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Can someone make a list of things that are not broken?  Seems to me.  it would be a very short list.

 

Basically, it strikes me.  That if you cannot learn to fight, mitigate or adapt to a tank or feature.  It is broken and needs removing.  



Marlekin #16 Posted 18 June 2017 - 08:33 AM

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The only alarming thing I notice in this thread is OP's 4:3 ratio screenshot. Very 90's!

Phobos4321 #17 Posted 18 June 2017 - 08:43 AM

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probably the only thing i cant remember to have read complains about might indeed be the minimap

ZlatanArKung #18 Posted 18 June 2017 - 08:43 AM

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Yes, Jap heavies are stupid and should get reworked. Nothing new there.

Hyster #19 Posted 18 June 2017 - 09:22 AM

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a type 5 rolled ultra high ?? wow :child:

ive hit a light for 18 (one eight) dmg with gold

I get ripped apart frontally by t8 meds / lights

 

that huge cupula on the top of the turret ?????

u know the weak spot like most tanks have ?????

ITS A WEAK SPOT, SHOOT IT



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