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HassenderZerhacker #1 Posted 18 June 2017 - 04:01 PM

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theres a thing I don't understand.

I get regularly hit in the cupola from as far as 200, 250 meters, and quite often I am not even standing still.

 

Today I got in one of these rare situations where I was about 150 meters away from another E75 which was sometimes stationary.

 

So I tried to shoot its cupola.

I tried 4 times, every time I was fully aimed in, with a gun that has 0.31 dispersion, and the gunner is at 121%.

I missed every time, these were clean misses, because the target didn't move.

 

This did cost me over 4000 credits in ammo, and I am wondering why does my cupola get hit with guns that are less precise and I repeatedly miss with 0.31 dispersion?


Edited by HassenderZerhacker, 18 June 2017 - 04:02 PM.


Jigabachi #2 Posted 18 June 2017 - 04:17 PM

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Last time I played I got snapshot by a Type 5 on El Campoof, who was climbing the other side at at max viewrange while I was moving around at the other side in a light tank. It's called RNG.

 

Hax. They're all haxing with aimboots and p®ey2win RNG-buffs.

                                                                    ^That looks and sounds quite cool. Can that become a thing, please?


Edited by Jigabachi, 18 June 2017 - 04:19 PM.


captainpigg #3 Posted 18 June 2017 - 04:28 PM

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No gun the E75 has, has 0.31 dispersion, esp the 12,8cm with 0.37. I assume you are using the 10,5cm L68 with BIA or choclate, so it's either bouncing or missing. Welcome to random.

 

And yes replay would help here.


Edited by captainpigg, 18 June 2017 - 04:28 PM.


Hammerhead20 #4 Posted 18 June 2017 - 04:31 PM

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Because accuracy is a joke in this game.

 

Sometimes you can hit from the other side of the map.

 

Sometimes you can't hit a damn thing from 100 m or even less...



HassenderZerhacker #5 Posted 18 June 2017 - 04:34 PM

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View Postcaptainpigg, on 18 June 2017 - 04:28 PM, said:

No gun the E75 has, has 0.31 dispersion, esp the 12,8cm with 0.37. I assume you are using the 10,5cm L68 with BIA or choclate, so it's either bouncing or missing. Welcome to random.

 

And yes replay would help here.

 

you are quite right, I use the 10.5 (still grinding the top gun) with BIA and vents.

 

and I don't have a replay, but I saved a vid. will upload to youtube

 


Edited by HassenderZerhacker, 18 June 2017 - 04:38 PM.


HassenderZerhacker #6 Posted 18 June 2017 - 04:51 PM

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here is the vid:

https://youtu.be/7k4S7ymnGss

 

(it will appear as soon as youtube is done processing it)



captainpigg #7 Posted 18 June 2017 - 05:05 PM

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Why save the vid but not the replay, replays are much smaller, and will give us much more info to help.

From the vid, you were bouncing off him if I'm not mistaken (your commander would not tell you that you had missed) . Not surprising considering the angle he was at. In fact it would be more surprising if you had penned.



HassenderZerhacker #8 Posted 18 June 2017 - 05:11 PM

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View Postcaptainpigg, on 18 June 2017 - 05:05 PM, said:

Why save the vid but not the replay, replays are much smaller, and will give us much more info to help.

From the vid, you were bouncing off him if I'm not mistaken (your commander would not tell you that you had missed) . Not surprising considering the angle he was at. In fact it would be more surprising if you had penned.

 

the angle was mostly slightly from above - isn't that good to hit the edge of the cupola?

 

regarding the replays, I would very much like a hotkey to save the current battle or last battle played under an automatic filename, same as I just press alt+F10 and a video of the last 20 minutes is saved, and I don't have to open any windows to change filenames or whatever.



Alukat123 #9 Posted 18 June 2017 - 05:15 PM

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View PostHammerhead20, on 18 June 2017 - 04:31 PM, said:

Because accuracy is a joke in this game.

 

Sometimes you can hit from the other side of the map.

 

Sometimes you can't hit a damn thing from 100 m or even less...

 

in WoT tanks are only 0.5m high, that's why you miss those shots from 100m distance with 0.35m/100m dispersion gun :D

WG got the tank size wrong


Edited by Alukat123, 18 June 2017 - 05:23 PM.


HassenderZerhacker #10 Posted 18 June 2017 - 05:37 PM

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View Postcaptainpigg, on 18 June 2017 - 05:05 PM, said:

Why save the vid but not the replay, replays are much smaller, and will give us much more info to help.

From the vid, you were bouncing off him if I'm not mistaken (your commander would not tell you that you had missed) . Not surprising considering the angle he was at. In fact it would be more surprising if you had penned.

 

BTW, you are mistaken, at least the first and the third shot missed the enemy completely (no blink of the marker and no crew voice), and the first shot missed the cupola but hit the turret without pen.

teamkill_2014 #11 Posted 18 June 2017 - 07:47 PM

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load gold pay to win

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Balc0ra #12 Posted 18 June 2017 - 08:07 PM

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Any tank can hit a cupola at 500m if they wanted to.... even with a broken gun. It's if RNG allows it or not. As you can still miss it even with 0.20 dispersion the way the game works.

 

Even tho someone else did hit yours, don't indicate he will pull it of again the next match. Every dog has it's day and all that. That's WOT for you. Don't nip pick on it and you won't notice it.



JocMeister #13 Posted 18 June 2017 - 08:20 PM

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Press "W" to leave base. Get closer. Aim. Hit.

 

 



RockyRoller #14 Posted 18 June 2017 - 08:34 PM

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I can assure you that when standing still and I hit you in a target area it was by aiming slowly carefully and RNG giving the hit. But when moving its pure RNG luck and any crew bonus I have.

 

There are a few dishonest players in the game that use cheat mods, you just have to say to yourself thats life but not the way I want to play.



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View PostHassenderZerhacker, on 18 June 2017 - 04:01 PM, said:

theres a thing I don't understand.

I get regularly hit in the cupola from as far as 200, 250 meters, and quite often I am not even standing still.

 

No you don't, you simply don't remember or don't notice all the times you don't get hit.



HassenderZerhacker #16 Posted 18 June 2017 - 08:44 PM

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View PostJocMeister, on 18 June 2017 - 08:20 PM, said:

Press "W" to leave base. Get closer. Aim. Hit.

 

Congratulations! You made it!

Welcome to "the list"



JocMeister #17 Posted 18 June 2017 - 08:59 PM

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View PostHassenderZerhacker, on 18 June 2017 - 08:44 PM, said:

 

Congratulations! You made it!

Welcome to "the list"

 

Truth too hurts too much eh? Anyone wants to bet why there is no replay? 

 

(Its because he never left the base).

 



Achibot #18 Posted 19 June 2017 - 01:32 PM

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View PostHassenderZerhacker, on 18 June 2017 - 04:11 PM, said:

regarding the replays, I would very much like a hotkey to save the current battle or last battle played under an automatic filename, same as I just press alt+F10 and a video of the last 20 minutes is saved, and I don't have to open any windows to change filenames or whatever.

 

It seems as if you might not know how replays work. Which wouldn't be surprising, they don't advertise the feature nearly enough. In any case, unless you actively disable them, replays are automatically created and stored in:

 

....\World of Tanks\replays

 

You can view the game again by double-clicking them. More importantly, camera angles, view distance, etc can be adjusted so it's actually much more advisable to make videos from replays rather than direct capture of gameplay.



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View PostRockyRoller, on 18 June 2017 - 07:34 PM, said:

 

 

There are a few dishonest players in the game that use cheat mods, you just have to say to yourself thats life but not the way I want to play.

 

Evidence please.



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View PostJocMeister, on 18 June 2017 - 08:59 PM, said:

Truth too hurts too much eh? Anyone wants to bet why there is no replay?  (Its because he never left the base).

 

Steady on, old boy! Didn't you view the video he posted, hm?




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